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Chop Top T-Top - (and my other � cars.) by Will-Martin
Started on | : 07-09-2004 02:35 AM |
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Last post by | : jscott1 on 11-02-2005 07:40 PM |
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Oct 10th, 2004
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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All of you HAVE been very patient with my progress, and for your interest in the project I should at least give you a taste of what I am aiming for. For all of my faithfull viewers, a glimse of Blackheart - enjoy -- 
I am sure someone will wind up finishing a car just like this rendering before I get mine done, so this is my timestamp! --Will [This message has been edited by Will-Martin (edited 10-10-2004).]
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05:56 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Looks totally awesome...the trailer that is. The tow vehicle is pretty nice too.
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Oct 12th, 2004
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Looks totally awesome...the trailer that is. The tow vehicle is pretty nice too. |
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Thanks man, Now I just have to decide what color...  
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10:42 PM
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Nov 2nd, 2004
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Silentassassin185 Member Posts: 3186 From: Joplin, Mo Registered: Nov 2003
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Any new news???
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Nov 7th, 2004
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85_Fiero_2M4 Member Posts: 1205 From: Buffalo NY Registered: Nov 2003
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BUMP Any news??
------------------ 85 2m4 Sport Coupe 88 Coupe with T-Tops Western New York Fiero http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyfiero/
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12:48 PM
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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Sorry guys, Nothing new to report. I am having to work a lot these days and that is holding me up. I will try to make time to work on it this week. Thanks! --Will
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11:24 PM
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Nov 14th, 2004
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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well..... anything..??
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04:42 PM
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Nov 18th, 2004
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Toddster Member Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
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I'm looking for more. Bump!
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03:34 PM
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Nov 19th, 2004
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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Got to work on it a little bit, but not much. We have 2 field jobs going right now and I am up to my neck in paper work. I hope to turn some wrenches this weekend. I will post some pics then for you guys. --Will
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12:09 AM
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Nov 26th, 2004
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Will-Martin: Got to work on it a little bit, but not much. We have 2 field jobs going right now and I am up to my neck in paper work. I hope to turn some wrenches this weekend. I will post some pics then for you guys. --Will |
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09:36 AM
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Nov 29th, 2004
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger:  |
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Trust me, you do not want to know what I am up to now! --Will
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04:11 AM
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Dec 15th, 2004
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Silentassassin185 Member Posts: 3186 From: Joplin, Mo Registered: Nov 2003
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Anything new with this?
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03:53 AM
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malacite Member Posts: 2213 From: Casselberry Fl 32707 Registered: Oct 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Will-Martin: Thanks man, Now I just have to decide what color... 

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never thought i'd say this but that purple is hot. do the purple. and the trailer needs a spoiler too.
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 car destroyed by charley, then again by francis seeking automatic aero-notchie for 3.4 carb swap.
[This message has been edited by malacite (edited 12-15-2004).]
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04:13 AM
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Will-Martin: Trust me, you do not want to know what I am up to now!
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Now I want to know...lol Mines been kinda in 'turtle' motion right now...lol I am doing about 4 things at once so nothing is getting DONE...know what I mean...?? Plus I am fixing to start making the "EuroSmooth" rocker panels...  SmoothGT!
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01:48 PM
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Dec 18th, 2004
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Greg Z Member Posts: 1218 From: New Orleans Registered: Jun 2004
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trailer needs spoiler.. car is gonna be great, keep up the good work. ------------------ 2X88 GT's, Formula, 85GT TPI, 00 Navigator(totally pimped, 9 tv's, 22's, ghostflames, etc......) Rolls Royce Silver Spirit, 69 Camaro 375hp/350 4sp, 00 Mustang GT Conv.(only 19k), 02 VW Turbo S(240hp 1.8l) Maserati Quattroporte(project).
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08:04 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Will-Martin: Trust me, you do not want to know what I am up to now!
--Will |
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Will, I wish you were up to chopping T-tops for paying customers And Steve, (Smooth) I wish you were up to shipping Eurosmooth side skirts for paying customers. Will, Have you picked out a windshield yet?? [This message has been edited by jscott1 (edited 12-18-2004).]
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08:13 PM
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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Be Patient... see sig for newest project for Alex...  ------------------ "EuroSmooth" Side Skirts ~GTStyle(Feb. 15th hopefully) ~Coupe Style (March 15th hopefully) Sidescoops ~A.K.Plasma (March 1st hopefully)
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11:47 PM
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Dec 19th, 2004
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stuartlowery Member Posts: 1019 From: Registered: Jul 2003
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If you only knew what it was taking to do it you'd be very afraid to ask for a price for him to do it. ------------------ Visit Texas Fieros . Com
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03:14 AM
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Will, I wish you were up to chopping T-tops for paying customers
And Steve, (Smooth) I wish you were up to shipping Eurosmooth side skirts for paying customers. |
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Last time you did that winky stuff you ended up at Archies... Ohhh No....  ------------------ "EuroSmooth Fiberglass Products" [This message has been edited by NotAFieroAnyLonger (edited 01-09-2005).]
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10:01 AM
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Jan 9th, 2005
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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Hello..??
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07:23 AM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Will, throw us a bone will you? How about new pics? [This message has been edited by jscott1 (edited 01-09-2005).]
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10:29 PM
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Jan 20th, 2005
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Will, throw us a bone will you? How about new pics? |
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No new pics yet, I have not worked much on the T-Top. My 88 GT is another story..... I will have more beginning in February! --Will
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01:37 AM
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MstangsBware Member Posts: 11509 From: TEXAS Registered: Mar 2002
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Where are you at in the DFW area, wouldnt mind coming over and looking at what projects you have going on. Let me know.
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02:10 AM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Will-Martin: No new pics yet, I have not worked much on the T-Top.
I will have more beginning in February! --Will |
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I'm really interested to know what windshield will fit... Any news there?
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09:29 AM
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Jan 21st, 2005
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by MstangsBware: Where are you at in the DFW area, wouldnt mind coming over and looking at what projects you have going on. Let me know. |
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I live south of Fort Worth. My "shop" was done away with because the insurance policy on by parent's house (where I keep my cars) did not allow any type of auto maint. or repair on the grounds. So All of my stuff is in a dirt floor carport covered only on 2 sides. Whenever I need to work on any of them I have to "ninja" them into our shop then "ninja" them back out to the shed as I call it. Not too much to see, that is for sure. | quote | Originally posted by jscott1: I'm really interested to know what windshield will fit... Any news there?
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From just the initial measurements, the glass guy here in town says he can get an import windshield and trim it down to fit. Not sure which one he will be using, but when I find out, I will let everyone know. Thanks, --Will
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08:37 AM
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Feb 3rd, 2005
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Silentassassin185 Member Posts: 3186 From: Joplin, Mo Registered: Nov 2003
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Just a little BUMP!
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07:08 PM
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Mar 2nd, 2005
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exoticse Member Posts: 8655 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
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Mar 3rd, 2005
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BlueGT Member Posts: 976 From: TN Registered: Jul 2002
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Any progress lately? ------------------ Got Blue? BlueGT
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Mar 25th, 2005
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Bi-weekly bump
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Apr 6th, 2005
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85_Fiero_2M4 Member Posts: 1205 From: Buffalo NY Registered: Nov 2003
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Bump, any progress?
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06:23 PM
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Apr 28th, 2005
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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Edit Well for all those who are waiting for an update on the Chop-Top T-Top, sorry for the delays. I am still working on it when I get time - I can not state how many things go into something like a choptop (many things that never even cross your mind when you start) and the stress of getting it done singlehanded really starts to wear on you. Thanks to everyone for thier continued support by bumping my thread. I was VERY sad to miss JScott1's choptop at the AAFO Roundup this year and when my Formula was not in running order to make it to the show that weekend, I lost a lot of drive and even considered getting out of Fieros all together. I have a friend who has been trying to get me into one of the new Mustangs and he was pusing my buttons hot and heavy about that time. I was just about to throw in the towel because I had 5 Fieros, and not one of them ran. Fortunately I sat down one night and was going through some pictures of Archie's Stinger. I remembered doing some concepts of all the cars I wanted to build later on, and one of them is going to be a little something I like to call "Verde." Originally it was going to be a convertable coupe, painted green and tricked out. I pulled up the concept and really did not like it as a convertable after all because the performace aspect for the car really called for a stable chassis and running low ETs in a convertable will get you sent home at the strip. So I revised the plan starting with Archie's LT-1 Stinger and my Formula as the base for my concept. I added some custom touches to the Coupe/Notchback bodywork as well as a color scheme to fit the car to my tastes. I am currently working on the front lip spoiler design out of Carbon Fiber (the coupe front just needs something) and I have amassed a huge amount of parts to pour into my "Verde" project car. After my current experience chopping the T-Top, I have decided to leave the chopping to the pros. Hopefully when Archie gets settled into his new building, my Formula will be heading to him for the procedure (I ran it by him a few days ago.) --Will ------------------
 For the Notchie/Coupe lovers I present "VE�DE" - hope you like it. 
[This message has been edited by Will-Martin (edited 04-28-2005).]
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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Stay MOTIVATED!! Stay TUNED!! SmoothGT! ------------------
 Choptytopped WideBody GT 1 of 1 4.9L-V8-Auto---almost finished
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02:44 AM
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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I got this e-mail from someone here on the forum who is too scared to even sign it. | quote | you know I have been watching your t-top chop thread on pennocks and i have enjoyed it until you posted your latest picture. your t-top was original and creative because no one had done it yet but now you are going back to your routine of taking someone elses work and making it your own. someone just posted about a coupe chop and there you go with your picture like it was your idea all the while. you need to grow up and quit copying everyone elses work and telling everyone it is your own. i know you were not the first one with the trailer or the grand prix lights and now taking someone elses hard work on the coupe and making a picture of it is just like all the other things you do.Anonymous Fiero |
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This is the newest in a series of e-mails I have been getting from this person and it was though a hotmail account so there is no way to really find out who it is. I don't think it was who the e-mail would indicate, but I am checking into it. This is for Mr. "Anonymous Fiero" If ANYONE knows who this guy is, I would like to know his true identity because pretty much anytime I post a picture that I create, he chimes in saying it is just a copy of someone else's work. Well what in the Fiero world isn't? The Fiero is over 20 years old and a LOT of modifications have been done to them over the years. I am not that innovative, but I like to post my ideas to keep the Fiero excitement going, just like Ausfiero, Reality, and others do. This a$$hole has been taking little shots at me via e-mail for a long time now and when I answer him back or try to find out who he is, he never replies. I don't think I have ever met him face to face but obviously I pissed him off somehow and now he thinks all I do is steal everyone's ideas and post them. Why I let you bother me so bad is beyond me, but obviously not knowing who you are and you making these little snide comments "Anonymously" gets under my skin like no other. That probably makes you happy, but I always post and e-mail using my real name - Not some Chicken $hit little alias. First off, I did not copy Joshua Riedl's idea for a choptop coupe. I started with this picture of Archie's Stinger: 
And wound up with this: 
Josh has probably been working on his choptop for a while now, but I had 0 knowledge of his choptop before I did this concept. I did send my concept picture to Archie and some friends last week before the new pictures of Josh's car were available, so I don't know where you get off saying I copied him. There are many things on my concept different than Josh's car. In fact I even went here https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/051348.html yesterday and told him how awesome his chop looks. Up until yesterday I did not even know he was even chopping a coupe. I only posted my picture to serve as a timestamp for my concept, denoting what I was planning to do to my car, not to steal anyone else's idea. If you or anyone here has the money, almost anything I show in my concept is available for purchase, it is not the parts that are unique, it is the way they are put together to form a complete car that makes the car itself unique from owner to owner. Besides mine is green, Josh's car is red even. The ONLY thing I am claiming to be original is the Adjustable Carbon Fiber front lip spoiler that I am designing myself, and even that has been done before - I know an aero coupe on Pennock's once had something similar. Second, I know exactly what you are talking about when you say "the trailer." This picture has been on Pennock's for A LONG TIME and I think it was the first totally finished Fiero body trailer that I know of! 
I never said anything about being the first to do a trailer and in fact I STILL have not completed my actual trailer. I never was "condescending" either here like you say I was: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/057971-3.html when talking about this sketch: 
and my concept: 
HE DID TRACE MY CONCEPT TO GET THE SKETCH, but I actually congratulated him on making it a reality! How is that condescending? Besides, I even think Aus was playing around with and aero trailer design not too long ago that was a tandem axle or something - that is where I got the idea for a single axle version. NEXT, the idea for the Grand Prix lights in the front was not mine and I never said it was! I did post a thread on it here in January of 2004: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20040710-1-037396.html I got that idea from a picture here on Pennock's from a long time ago, I think on a picture with them on Fierolisa's car but I can't find it? A few months later Bob with B & B Spyder showed up at Daytona with a convertable, smoothed, side scoop, hood cowl, grand prix light Fiero at daytona here much like my concept: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20040710-1-039657.html By his own admission, he got the Fiero done in the two weeks before the 2004 Daytona show and had the idea for it only a few weeks prior to the show. If I did the concept in January and he showed up with the car in March, having built it in 2 weeks, is it not unreasonable to assume I at least had an influence on the design of the car? That is the only thing I ever said, and I congratulated Bob on making it a reality AND EVEN TRIED TO GET HIM TO MAKE ONE FOR ME!!!!! (Still waiting to hear back from you Bob!) And YES I know I started with Skitime's car, HE KNOWS ABOUT THE PICTURE! My concept:
 His Car:
 At any rate, I think you are a peice $hit and I think you are probably a lot tougher behind your keyboard than you are in real life. Like I said if anyone has ever gotten an e-mail by someone signing "Anonymous Fiero" I would really like to know who it is. And I really can't believe I just spent an hour of my life looking up all this $hit just to prove you wrong (which you are.) [/rant] [This message has been edited by Will-Martin (edited 04-28-2005).]
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03:54 AM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Throw us a bone will you? A camera phone pic, words or description, anything!
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01:17 PM
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Will-Martin Member Posts: 1164 From: DFW, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Throw us a bone will you? A camera phone pic, words or description, anything! |
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Sure man, I just finished cutting and rewelding the A-Pillars to even them out a little. They were originally about a 1/4 different in cross measurements for some reason. Don't know if the chassis shifted, or I miscalculated, or what. Whatever it was is gone now. I am on my way to the store to try and get some primer for the welds now. I will try to update everyone tomorrow with some pictures. Should start putting the body back on now, and get the glass ordered.  [This message has been edited by Will-Martin (edited 04-28-2005).]
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04:29 PM
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joshua riedl Member Posts: 1426 From: watertown wi USA Registered: Jan 2004
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i know how you feel man, i get dumb ass comments all the time and although i shouldn't let them get me down they always do. that on top of all the real setbacks is is probably why most don't get finished. i really don't see the big deal with making similar cars either. i don't see every red camaro owner duking it out in the street. personally i saw archies stinger a couple years ago and new i wanted one. after buying a house paying him wasn't an option so i went at it on my own. keep up the good work.
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NotAFieroAnyLonger Member Posts: 4413 From: 75762/Texas/USA Registered: Dec 2003
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Don't worry about the email-wanna be guy... I just realised that Texas is becoming the Choptop Capital of the USA!!
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by NotAFieroAnyLonger: I just realised that Texas is becoming the Choptop Capital of the USA!!  |
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Everything is bigger in Texas....except the Fiero roofline.
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Apr 29th, 2005
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Fierobsessed Member Posts: 4782 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 2001
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You know, I was pretty shocked to find out that someone applied what I had PS'd many times onto various Fieros had actually become a reality. It didn't bother me that someone did what I PS'd at all. If I cared about it I would have kept it a secret. Heres the pic of Lisas GT, I Photoshoped 1/25/02  My pace car, PS'd 4/29/02  One of our fellow PFFr's car also PS'd 4/29/02  Origionally I came up with this idea when I was searching Fiero sites. I came across one and it had a front corner shot of a Grand Prix, and I thaught it was one of a fiero that had Grand Prix headlights, then when I realized it wasn't a Fiero, an idea was born. Its funny though, there arent many origional Ideas, most are just inspired. some more while I was bored some years ago: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030204-1-022551.html [This message has been edited by Fierobsessed (edited 04-29-2005).]
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1987bluegt Member Posts: 306 From: alb nm usa Registered: Feb 2005
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i think you should start spaming that guys account with junk mail  BTW BEAUTIFUL car now you should chop mine and convert it to t-tops 
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now every one remember hondas are cool.....
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