I just wanted to say you are doing a great job documenting this, Please keep up the good work

Thanks
Here are some details I forgot. The timing tab on this engine (probably all) will interfere with the belt and frame rail. So it needs to be eliminated. Another area is that lower water pump hole with the arrows. Archie's video explains very well what to do but basically you will need drill it, tap it and cap it. Sounds easy but if you have never done it before you will get nervous about it

Soon I'll come up with pictures of the finished powder coated intake

I have a question about something I've been thinking about lately with all the build up threads I've been seeing. If you're using an electric water pump and are tight on room, would it at all be possible to mount the electric waterpump up in front of the car, then just wire it up from there? Or wouldn't this work?

Matt

Also, very very nice build up, you are causing me to get motivated into looking for a V8.

Thanks. That will work too. The pump pushes (or sucks?) water from the engine to the radiator thru the passenger side pipe. You can mount it in the front using some "Y" pipes at the engine and at the front for connections. I have seen some for the block but I think they still wont fit my car. Here is a link to one of them (look for water header);
http://billygrahamracing.com/displayParts.asp?search_menu='Cooling%20Products'

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula:

My timing tab had to go also. BZZZZZZZT!! Cut-off wheel made short work of it.

I was a bit nervous about drilling and tapping the weep hole, too. Two words for you: Thread sealant. Seriously, just take your time and drill and tap as straight as possible. Awesome thread by the way. Makes wish I could give you ++.

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For some reason I'm not showing a meter. Maybe too little feedback..
Ok. No some bling These are the things that take a lot of extra time and will delay you. But while you wait for parts to arrive by mail why not spent this time? Here are the runners and top intake prep for the powder coating.

You have to use heat tape and plug all threaded holes unless you want to re-tap them after;

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula: For some reason I'm not showing a meter. Maybe too little feedback..

there you go sir

Cool! I'm near the green! I will behave
I have so much to post. Many pics that I still need to resize etc. Will not let you hanging

That looks damn good.

Alex,

Did you do the powder coating yourself? Those pieces look great. If you did, what equipment are you using?

Roy

Looking great Alex! I hope you don't bolt your manifold in that way though

Hi Alex-----Will it be ready for

quote Originally posted by JacobHaley: Looking great Alex! I hope you don't bolt your manifold in that way though

What do you mean??

LT188GT; No it won't be ready But I plan to go to the POCI show in the other one.

Roy; It's not my equipment but we used a Harbor Freight gun and oven. Great products and very easy. Both are on sale right now. The gun is $59 and the oven I think $250 or $299. You can use an old home oven too. I may buy the gun and save it. Problem with oven is don't have space But this thing is addicting

The 90 to 92 camero ecm is still the best choise. Sure the Fiero ecm can be reprogramed to work . In 90 GM moved the electronic spark control from the engine compartment to ecm along with the knock sensor control wires. the 90 ecm has 3 connectors instead of 2. I have the wire plug if any one needs it. You can use the small HEI destributor so you can mount the coil some where other than on top of the destributor. Yes you can add 2 injector wires and reconfigure the wiring harness.Run the injector wires and all other wires down the center under the plentom so they do not show. With the 90 ecm the cold start injector was done away with.There are many more features the 90 ECM has .It is like compareing the 88 suspension to 87 and below. GM just made it better. .....seabee1678

I will use the HEI (Fiero look alike) distributor. I'm still not completely sure which ECM I'll use.

Here is what was left to do for the lower water pump piping;

I found out this but soon to be corrected. Don't know how it happened. Anyway I was going to cut the T and use it.

And this is how it ended looking. I had to add a notch to reroute the heater hose a little bit lower. After two failed attempts, fifteen minutes at the hoses rack in Autozone found the right curved and reducer hose to mate from pump (bigger inlet) to the Fiero pipe. Now I only need to receive the 90° NPT to AN adapters (next week) to finish all the water plumbing. This puppy will be roaring soon

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Great pics dude!!! This thread really shows the details of the conversion. Pos rating from me!

<BUMP> Should not be on page three.

Roy

any progress?

Yes there is progress. I will post more tonight

Ok. Let's see what I have been doing. These block flange adapters were required for my remote pump mount. Not cheap at all but necessary. Also hard to find. Only Century Perormance got them;

I finally mounted the intake manifold. The fuel rail is just placed on. Wires will go below it. Here is how it looks;

Cant wait to see it finished.
+ to you.

quote Originally posted by Alex4mula: Ok. Let's see what I have been doing. These block flange adapters were required for my remote pump mount. Not cheap at all but necessary. Also hard to find. Only Century Perormance got them;

Hey, with those adapters, I'm guessing you don't need to do the mod to the block, as it seems to cover the hole as the stock pump would.

Kevin

Yeah, those adapters are cool. Mine are male AN flanges and didn't cover the weep hole. I would have saved a lot on those expensive AN hose ends and fittings if I could have found those flanges you have. I also admire you for using the Fiero harness. That is one sweet swap.

quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: Hey, with those adapters, I'm guessing you don't need to do the mod to the block, as it seems to cover the hole as the stock pump would. Kevin

Maybe yes. But the covering area is small. I would plug it anyway just in case. You can find them on the link below. They also have the CC10 headers at a good price.
http://www.centuryperformance.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=MZE-WP81

The extra injector wires look great. What about the knock sensor? Did you find a way to eliminate it?

Roy

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I found a BIN that doesn't use it. I'll try that one first. I can easily add it later if I need to.

BUMP!!!

I've been so busy at work that I haven't even had a chance to stop by and say...

GREAT WORK! and an excellent thread - keep up the great posts (you might actually motivate me to get started on my own TPI swap).

I'm definitely curious to find out how well your computer & wiring setup will work. I'm planning on attempting to use a stock TPI computer & wiring harnes (althought I've already had Darth reprogram the TPI chip to remove some of the unwanted stuff (like VSS, EGR, Passkey, etc).

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Looking for Fiero posters?

mrfixit58 are you going to be doing an injected V8?
My setup is going to be staying carb for now but This thread ROCKS.

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Wife is traveling with camera so I haven't been able to take more pictures. I'm currently finishing assembling the intake and all little details to finally put engine in and try firing it up. Wiring is in, fuel rail is in, runners are in and all water hoses are connected. I programmed the PROM but we still need to double check that the pinout changes at the connector are correct. By next week I expect to have the engine in and ready to start the exhaust which will be very interesting. By then I'll have the camera to show it all. So stay on the channel

You cannot beat a well documented thread like yours. Although it takes hours to arrive at a final decision, you still take time out to digitize the results. Great details too. A well earned plus. Thank you.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: mrfixit58 are you going to be doing an injected V8? My setup is going to be staying carb for now but This thread ROCKS.

That's the plan. I have all the stuff to install a TPI set-up (except harness). Unfortunately, I have no idea WHEN I'll start the project .

Roy

Bump, need some more inspiration.

Ok. Let's bring more inspiration Finally got my camera and we did a lot of work. I preped the engine to be finally mounted and start working on the exhaust. Well... now I'm much closer but still some issues to work out. All the clearance areas that I reworked did fine except one. This is the puppy that still won't clear the shock tower (this is the rear/trunk side water pump inlet)

That is how much that fitting will go in but I need at least 1/2" more or I will need to make a hole in the shock tower I will try to extend the threads deeper (tappered) and see if I can stick it in further into the flange adapter. If that doesn't work then I will need to make a small hole in the shock tower for it to clear. Will see this weekend.

So finally I installed the engine and this weekend I'll start hooking up all the wires. Below is how it looks. Later on when all is finished I'll post more detailed pictures. I think I detailed it too much for a daily driver