I will be at Tower Shops this Friday and I will have the elbow and K/N filter with me. If you can't make it call me or PM me or you can just respond here .
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08:39 AM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Clem; I can stop by when I leave work at 5:00PM. I'm at Sunrise and University so it should be a 5-10 min drive.
Running lean will generate more heat. Hopefully bu the end of this week I may have the stock TPS on and I'll be able to tune it better with the A/F meter. I'm kind of getting use to the deep loud exhaust note
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09:40 AM
RCR Member
Posts: 4409 From: Shelby Twp Mi Registered: Sep 2002
Question, though... Why bring the TPS sensor up straight and not leave it going out the front? If there is an interference problem, why not make a pigtail that's soldered to the TPS pins? That should give you clearance.
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01:01 PM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Question, though... Why bring the TPS sensor up straight and not leave it going out the front? If there is an interference problem, why not make a pigtail that's soldered to the TPS pins? That should give you clearance.
At least on 88s the stock TPI TPS points forward and the shock tower is in the way. Someone here suggested using the 4 cyl Fiero TPS which I tried. Problem is that it is still too tall for a coupe grill and also for some reason (maybe because it is not an A/C Delco) it is not reading as it should (.5-4.5++V). This is a very critical sensor so I need it to work right. So now I will try to mod it as shown in the first picture on this thread; https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20030531-2-030342.html
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Dec 2nd, 2004
RCR Member
Posts: 4409 From: Shelby Twp Mi Registered: Sep 2002
Alex: Will the sensor clear without the connector plugged in? From this pic, it looks like it does:
If it does, all you need to do is make a pigtail that has the wires soldered directly to the sensor pins. Silicone the end to seal it. The pigtail will connect to the existing connector.
Good luck...
Bob
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08:09 AM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Look closely at that picture. That area in front of the TPS has been cut a big shunk. Also that's a Zumalt kit (if I remember correctly, CalKid car?) which gives more clearance in that area (adapter plate is thinner). This is the clearance I have in my car in that area;
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08:25 AM
RCR Member
Posts: 4409 From: Shelby Twp Mi Registered: Sep 2002
Eww... That's pretty tight. Sorry, no more ideas here. Looks like moving the TPS is the only real choice. You might want to check the resistance value of that 4cyl TPS. There's no real reason why it only goes 1/2 way unless the value is different, or the travel is different. It is looking real good, though. Even if you did take the Tin man's arm.
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Dec 7th, 2004
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Final update. I have been so unlucky these days but everything has been resolved. The other night during a test drive I start hearing this ticking metal jumping noise. A rocker arm got loose and damaged the pushrod while bending the lifter retainer metal spring. We had to do a heart bypass surgery thru the belly button in order to avoid to take the whole intake off but we were successful and were able to fix the metal spring to hold the retainer. Then when I went out for a test drive and to the auto parts the shifter suddenly stopped working. I had to put manually the car in 2nd and drive 3-4 miles home like that. The selector cable broke. Went out to buy parts at auto parts and got a traffic citation Then after fixing the cable that night I took the car for another test drive and the shifter cable pin (at the tranny) came loose and the cable got disconnected. At least that was an easy one. Oh well... The good thing is I received the LM-1 and started working on the A/F ratio. It was running at 25! Adjusted the injector base pulse constant and took it to around 14 when my neighbor came complaining about the noise It was 10:00 PM and didn't like my nice exhaust note. Anyway, this tool is a must in order to properly tune a moded injected engine. Soon this baby will run as smooth as a Lexus
Drove the car tonight again. Now with correct (for current situation) A/F ratio it is much more (80%) smoother and better daily driver candidate. Now for the "fine" tunning using the BLM, etc. Thank God I didn't have any issue while driving this time. Exhaust note is very sweet
Drove the car tonight again. Now with correct (for current situation) A/F ratio it is much more (80%) smoother and better daily driver candidate. Now for the "fine" tunning using the BLM, etc. Thank God I didn't have any issue while driving this time. Exhaust note is very sweet
Saw your post in the mall, why do you need a tranny?
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08:12 PM
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California Kid Member
Posts: 9541 From: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan Registered: Jul 2001
Look closely at that picture. That area in front of the TPS has been cut a big shunk. Also that's a Zumalt kit (if I remember correctly, CalKid car?) which gives more clearance in that area (adapter plate is thinner). This is the clearance I have in my car in that area;
You are correct, I'm running a modified Zumalt Kit, placing the engine further to the left.
I've seen a vertically mounted TPS that will get you more clearance without doing severe surgery to the shock tower, believe Archie would have the details on this sensor.
Ja! I was lucky to see this today. My wife is in the hospital (Pleurisy) and I just took a glance here. My tranny was bad (diff. bearings) before the swap and I didn't know. I thought it was the release bearing. Finally broke into pieces and made a nice black line from the entrance of my development to near my house. Now I can tell people visiting for first time to just follow the black line I'm still trying to locate a local Getrag but has been unsuccessful
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10:07 PM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
You are correct, I'm running a modified Zumalt Kit, placing the engine further to the left.
I've seen a vertically mounted TPS that will get you more clearance without doing severe surgery to the shock tower, believe Archie would have the details on this sensor.
I just did that Still need to work the linkage a little better but it is working.
Thanks guys. She's fine. Fiero is not. Tranny broke from inside out into the clutch area. If you see it from front it has a circle lid about 3" dia. It has a bearing there and it popped the lid out and damaged the new Spec pressure plate and spilled tranny oil too. So the disc may be waster too I'll post pictures later. I may try another clutch company. Didn't like the chatter of the Stage III. Will see. Need to decide soon. Time is running out...
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08:19 PM
Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Sorry to hear that. Please take some pics, if you can so we can get some failure analysis. It might help future swaps. Glad to here the wife is doing better, though!!
If you're running a basically stock L98, Archie's Centerforce clutch might be a good alternative to the Spec.
John his L98 is probably putting out 50 MORE H.P. than my LT1 that you drove last year or so.
Hey Alex, it was nice to see you, Lou and Frank at the Hot Rod Sunday Show. I did real good in the car show picking up an award for BEST G.M. I won a plaque which was nice but the shirt they gave to first place winners says--Hot Rod Sunday---Class Winner.
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Feb 7th, 2005
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Ok. Here is what could happen to a nice new clutch if your tranny explodes in the wrong place. Originally I thought this tranny was fine and what was bad was the clutch release bearing as the symptom/sound was the same as it did before for me. When I took my 1st V8 test drive I got the terrible news Sound was still there with new clutch. Problem was tranny. I drove the car near 500 miles because I wanted to break in the engine and one day coming from work all these terrible sounds started to come from back there. Finally about 1/10 mile from home it broke and spilled all the fluid making a very nice black line from the entrance of my development to my home. Now I tell people to just follow the black line when they need my address Here is where the tranny broke and all that nice material went into the clutch area. The lid covering that was between the clutch, the housing and the fork. Ugly.
The pressure plate may be reused but I will just get another one. The flywheel got some dings but I resurfaced it and rebalanced it. Actually the balance was fine.
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04:26 PM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Now this is the flywheel side of the clutch disc. Do you see something wrong?? It was wearing only on the top part. We measured the pads and the part that wore is actually lower than the part that didn't. Yes we measured correctly. What the f&^&$? Sounds weird eh? Our theory is that the brand new Centerforce flywheel was not flat and that as it goes away from the center the plane was higher. I don't know how they cut these but if they do from center out then the tool was wearing out. Now I see a debate between what was really wrong, the new flywheel or the new clutch
After assembly and running the engine I had this little oil leak that accumulated at the edge of the heads and the block. I was puzzled of where the hell this oil was coming from. I took the engine back to the builder and he couldn't find anything wrong. Out theory was that maybe it was leaking from the intake manifold and going thru the crack between the head and block all the way down. I took the intake off and this is what I found. It seems it didn't seal well there and slowly the iol dripped down the head crevice and finally to the floor....
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04:37 PM
87gt5speed Member
Posts: 193 From: Columbus,OH,USA Registered: Dec 2002
awesome thread, cant wait to start my tpi project....just need $....loooooots of $
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04:43 PM
joshua riedl Member
Posts: 1426 From: watertown wi USA Registered: Jan 2004
i would like to see a picture of the pressure plate side of the clutch. i also had an issue with a spec clutch. the center hub stuck out too far and hit the center of the throw out bearing instead of the outer part that pushes on the pressure plate. they did send a new disk for free and never asked for the old one back.
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09:37 PM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
More little problems keep coming. I found out that the front tranny mount was loose and missing one bolt I guess that's why my engine was rocking more than 1/4". Took the mount off (to replace with Rodney's) and found out that the cradle is cracked in that area. I know it is a known problem. Now to deal with it
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03:22 PM
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
I had some cracks in the same place, similar to the first pic. I welded them and ground the welds smooth and then re-painted. The biggest crack I had was only about an inch, though.
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KissMySSFiero Member
Posts: 5542 From: Tarpon Springs, FL USA Registered: Nov 2000
My roommate, GSXRBOBBY, made a mount for his car. But can't use it because he needs to relocate the front crossmember. It uses a rubber mount for a full size Chevy trans. 4X4, part #2638 If you want to try it, PM me your address and I can send it to you.
Steel mount, kinda rough looking.
Rubber mount pic [imghttps://images.fiero.nl/pffimages/43943_2.jpg[i/img]
Well you can drill a hole in the end of the crack then take a grinder and open it up. Weld it then grind smooth. I would also weld on a plate to help distribute the load. If thats your weak point then its going to crack again. I hope to avoid this by not leting my motor move on the cradle, thus not letting it load up every time and cause those stress cracks. Solid mounts will be used on motor and tranny. I also dont plan on driving the car every day so if its a little harsh I wont mind.
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Feb 14th, 2005
Alex4mula Member
Posts: 7403 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
I bought a 1/4" plate to copy the pattern and weld it underneath the area. That should fix that one for good. I'll weld the cracks on the top too. At least at the end this will be a better install. Hope to be ready by Daytona. Still so many little things to fix and do and only three available work weekends before it
I bought a 1/4" plate to copy the pattern and weld it underneath the area. That should fix that one for good. I'll weld the cracks on the top too. At least at the end this will be a better install. Hope to be ready by Daytona. Still so many little things to fix and do and only three available work weekends before it
That should do it. Do drill a hole in the end of the cracks before you weld them. That will stop the crack from getting longer. I had to start driving my GT so I wont be starting the V8 swap as soon as I want. Cant wait to see your car at Daytona, you going to be there all weekend?
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05:27 PM
mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
Some updates. I have lots of more pics. Just don't have time to post. Finally got a tranny. It was completely rebuilt. Fixed a small oil leak, reinforced the front tranny mount area and powder coated more parts. I got new poly tranny mounts from Rodney. This is where the problems started. For some reason when I placed the tranny/engine combo back on the cradle the front tranny mount didn't aligned It was off by about 1/2" center to center. After some big wiggling we were able to fit it but mount needed to be pushed with a big C clamp to make the holes align. When I put the cradle back in the car the TB clearances got screwed up because the engine moved a little towards the trunk. So now I'm reworking the shock tower again to gain clearance. The TB intake rubber elbow will not fit. I have about 1/4" between TB snout and shock tower. I redesigned the TPS bracket because it was on top of the shock tower too. All this is consuming much needed time for other items. Also the car is overheating pretty bad. Still need to trouble shoot that. Also with the new clutch the pedal is very loose. It engages in gear with engine running but not smoothly. Another area to troubleshoot Then I still need to cut more the trunk lid, install new pads, recharge A/C, etc. etc. and drive/debug car. Hope I can make it to Daytona with this car.....
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Mar 15th, 2005
Soelasca Member
Posts: 455 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Registered: Sep 2004
Great thread so far Alex. I've only read page 2 and 6 . I had a similar problem with my poly mounts from WCF. It seems they were a little out and changed the whole alignment of the engine/tranny. I actually had to egg out the rear tranny mount holes and slide it over an eighth of an inch to get the proper dimensions.
Your thread has made it to my favorites. I'll probably be PMing you to ask a few specifics later on.