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Help! Why is my paint staying tacky?? by Ms Formula
Started on: 06-23-2005 01:10 PM
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Report this Post06-23-2005 01:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ms FormulaSend a Private Message to Ms FormulaDirect Link to This Post
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Ok, so I removed alot of the grey interior pieces, washed and cleaned them so they could be painted. I am using Krylon's Fusion black spray paint. The paint bonded really well to the plastic trim pieces. The arm rests are that soft vinyl right, well my paint remained tacky/sticky on them. What kind of paint works on these soft vinyl pieces?? Thanks!

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Report this Post06-23-2005 01:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Master Tuner AkimotoClick Here to visit Master Tuner Akimoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to Master Tuner AkimotoDirect Link to This Post
You have to clean every thing off and redo them with vinyl paint available from any auto paint store ,on the A and B pillars it will dry but the door panels and arm rest it won't and that is why it is sticky.
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Report this Post06-23-2005 01:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KohburnSend a Private Message to KohburnDirect Link to This Post
the problem is the krylon fusion

I have some parts that are trashed because of it - 2 months after spraying they are still tacky

it doesn't seem to like our vinyl very much - personally i will never spend a cent on krylon fusion again

I only use duplicolor vinyl color spray (got the krylon to try in a pinch but yeah not vinyl friendly)

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Report this Post06-23-2005 01:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for countach711Click Here to visit countach711's HomePageSend a Private Message to countach711Direct Link to This Post
I have used automotive vinyl spray with great success - BLACK-FADED arm rests and door panels back to original burgandy, and you could NOT tell it wasn't stock! Prep the surface well, some type of wax & grease remover is the best (you can buy at an auto paint store) & apply it in THIN coats is best, doesn't take long to dry, 2-3 coats is all that's needed. Works equally well on hard platic and soft vinyl, like seats! Great stuff!
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Report this Post06-23-2005 04:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierotazSend a Private Message to FierotazDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by countach711:

I have used automotive vinyl spray with great success - BLACK-FADED arm rests and door panels back to original burgandy, and you could NOT tell it wasn't stock! Prep the surface well, some type of wax & grease remover is the best (you can buy at an auto paint store) & apply it in THIN coats is best, doesn't take long to dry, 2-3 coats is all that's needed. Works equally well on hard platic and soft vinyl, like seats! Great stuff!

What brand did you use?

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Report this Post06-23-2005 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wattsSend a Private Message to wattsDirect Link to This Post
I'll use nothing but SEM Color coat now. Can't say enough good things about it. But even IT will crap out on you without good surface prep.

Landau Black is the black I use. You can redo your speaker grill cloth with it too (5 LIGHT coats works well).

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Report this Post06-23-2005 08:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Fusion is for 'hard' plastics. Vinyls on things like doors, seats and so on need to use vinyl color like SEM. Your going to have to use laquer thinner or reducer to remove the fusion.....and lots of paper towells.
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Report this Post06-23-2005 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ms FormulaSend a Private Message to Ms FormulaDirect Link to This Post
Got the Fusion all removed and cleaned the surface very well.....ready to try again!
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Report this Post06-23-2005 11:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroAngelSend a Private Message to FieroAngelDirect Link to This Post
As I recall PPG makes a auto vinyl spray. I have not tried it but I plan to when I get the $ to work and my car some more. Good luck with this project
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Report this Post06-24-2005 01:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkincarriageSend a Private Message to pumpkincarriageDirect Link to This Post
I haven't used the SEM stuff, I couldn't find it anywhere... so I went with the Duplicolor Vinyl& Fabric. It worked very well everywhere except the armrests, I'm not sure if they just get that much more wear than the center console or if I didn't prep them well enough, but after about three months they began to wear at the elbow spot and the driver side one actually cracked and chipped off. More sun damage possibly? I still recommend it though, it's not like the armrests are difficult to pop off and repaint. For reference, the flat black holds much better than the gloss on soft vinyl, if you want a sheen on it just use a light coat of armor-all or black magic. $5.99 at Autozone, $4.89 at O'Reilly.

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Report this Post06-24-2005 05:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for destroyClick Here to visit destroy's HomePageSend a Private Message to destroyDirect Link to This Post
you can buy SEM products at local paint stores (English Color, Metrocolor) Theres a few of them in Dallas.

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Report this Post06-24-2005 02:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
DONT USE ARMOR ALL ON IT....!!

For high use area like your armrests if their black is go to a shoe store and get some black shoe dye. It comes in a plastic bottle with a sponge applicator tip. It wears very well and can be touched up anytime. I use it on my Corvettes door top panels, shifter and steering wheel. I retouch it a few times during the summer. It last on the steering wheel great and after you buff it up, it wont come off on your hands at all.

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Report this Post06-24-2005 02:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for m0sh_manSend a Private Message to m0sh_manDirect Link to This Post
i used the krylon fusion on my car, all i did was wash the parts with dishwashing soap and a scrub pad, and left them outside for a week, to dry, when i first tried to pick one up after a couple days it was tacky, but after a week in 90* weather it was fine.

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