quote Originally posted by JohnnyK: If you're talking about karma, sorry dude, sometimes (all times, actually) the only way things get taken care of is if you do them yourself

I dunno-he DID get flooded recently................

(of course, he may be heavily insured, and in that case may come out smelling like a rose)

quote Originally posted by maryjane: In this instance, the rating system seems NOT to be doing one of the things it should be. Maybe not the 'system', but those using it.

I disagree. I imagine by the end of the weekend enough members will have seen this thread that we keep pushing to the top and will do their civic duty. Not banning him early on has allowed him to tie his own noose, not just make him vanish without any response at all. When the accused incrimminate themselves, it's much more convincing than a couple of folks working themselves into a froth and appearing to make rumors up.
You notice MTA has stopped posting in this thread.
A lot of folks have quoted some of his most damning statements so that he can't go back and simply delete his posts to cover his tracks.
Getting a scarlet letter and being left in society is worse than just voting him off the island in this case. if he's banned, so be it. It won't change anything.
There are some others who have posted in this thread that do warrant getting banned because they have no manners. I'm not complaining about their attitudes, just their blatant disregard for how Cliff has set up the Forum. It is his house after all.

To be fair, MTA has provided me some pretty good advice and has done nothing to me to earn any kind of rebuke....but....

I spent 30 years as a fraud investigator. I hate rippoffs and as has been pointed out, MTA has not denied the substance of the allegations from multiple sources.

I do my duty.

Arn

quote Originally posted by Raydar: And he didn't even get punched in the head.

Well if there IS karma, I'm sure it's coming..

quote Originally posted by JohnnyK: Well if there IS karma, I'm sure it's coming..

Well, it's no water off my back either way, as I've never done business with him-with either good or bad results. I truely hate to see anyone banned from here, as it would be better just to see them castigated by all, maybe censured of sorts. Sometimes tho, that just rolls off some people, and they just continue on as before. To be honest. he's (MTA) not bothered me in the least, and in fact has always been cordial in any responses to my posts. AND, perhaps it's really none of my business, BUT, when I've seen people banned or at least seemingly so, simply because they espoused unpopular political opinions, and I weigh this thread's revelations against their offense, I have to think this particular subject is far more demanding of attention and action than some of what I've seen in the past. Unscrupulus sellers/buyers affect us all in that thay can make us very hesitant to buy or sell here on PFF. We shouldn't have to have those sort of concerns at all here in the Fiero community, and when I first came here, with very very few exceptions, we didn't. Because of a very trusting and generous initial business deal in the mall, the same month I registered, I had no qualms about buying here for the longest time. Now, everytime I buy from someone I haven't dealt with before, I have some apprehension until the item arrives at my doorstep.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: In this instance, the rating system seems NOT to be doing one of the things it should be. Maybe not the 'system', but those using it.

The last time there was a big flame war about 4.9 and N* motor installs some people quit posting. I know of at least 2, those people will probably not be coming back on here to change ratings. So if Cliff dosent step in he may never get banned. (unless I just dont know what I'm talking about}

quote Originally posted by maryjane: BUT, when I've seen people banned or at least seemingly so, simply because they espoused unpopular political opinions, and I weigh this thread's revelations against their offense, I have to think this particular subject is far more demanding of attention and action than some of what I've seen in the past. Unscrupulus sellers/buyers affect us all in that thay can make us very hesitant to buy or sell here on PFF. We shouldn't have to have those sort of concerns at all here in the Fiero community, and when I first came here, with very very few exceptions, we didn't.

Exactly what I was going to type.. A lot more than I would have wrote, but same idea..

Ok I just went over all these older threads, All of this started a year before I joined the forum, There is alot of victoms, As a friend keith im asking you right now, Does any of this have anything to do with you? Please input something... Say something.

I had no idea about these because all of these threads was way before my time on this board( I never bothered to go through any off the older threads when this thread started ) . I have never been ripped off from MTA (keith) But that will not close my eyes to the truth or overwhelming proof.

I never wanted to get involved with this thread, But certain ppl (that have it in for me I guess) Has brought me into all of this mess (even tho all of this started before my time) Keith you will always be a friend of mine, But If any of this is true then im telling you as a friend.... you were wrong. I remember a comment you made long ago about how a person doesn't need to prove anything, Well in todays world proof is needed, It kills doubt and second guesses.

When I sell an item... The money I receive is not considered mine till I hear back from the person and the person is happy.

Im sorry Koburn, Crazyone, GTmetal and anyone else I have got into it with...... But When I first joined this forum... I wanted and loved talking about fieros, Unfortantly it's no longer about our loved hobby (The pontiac fiero) All I see is bashing others, Running others down, Personal attacks, Being nasty(posting rude or hurtful love ones pics) And ppl just becomming total jerks(mean spirited) Others take it beyond what it has to go... Because of a comment one has or having a different opinion. Some will stay jerks forever, But the mature ppl will see how this childish arguing is a waste fo time,

Well at the end of all of this.... We all have the same car .......I don't care if it's a duke or SBC..... NO MATTER WHAT... WE ALL HAVE FIEROS !!! And we all bleed the same color blood.

I know nothing I said might not mean a thing (or even become made fun of most likely) But I throw in the towel from anymore petty bickering I do with anyone. Im 28 years old and im going to start acting like a adult.

I know there will still be bickering and the You got owned bit( I don't count replies or dissagreeing as owning someone BTW) , But I hope it never gets this far again......

Peace out.

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quote Originally posted by Mike Murphy: I posted a complaint with the internet fraud center after Sybliss took me for $221.00 and it reverts back to the Attorney General's Office in your state. All they do is send a certified letter for response. Since Indiana is a long way from Florida they do a followup letter if no response and then forward anything after that to the Florida Attorney Generals office. Since he is a small time crook they pay little attention to him as they have bigger fish to fry. So unless a lot of you who have been dealt with in a bad way by this POS start complaining and filing complaints he is free to do what he thinks he can get by with. MY loss was over 2 years ago so I'm sure the statute of limitations has run out. I will pay him a visit someday in person and I will extract my pound of flesh one way or another.

It would be Ironic if you had a roll of dimes in each fist......

quote Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: Peice out.

Dude, its "Peace Out"

MTA/Sybliss:

You are lower than a bucket of whalesh** on the bottom of the ocean floor.

Now, who is going to search for him on zabasearch.com and knock on his front door?

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quote Originally posted by JohnnyK: And I still almost have as much red as him.. Crime DOES pay.. Sarcasm, not so much..

Ok Johnny, you finally got a "+" from me.

Not sure how you helped me out, but you must have JohnnyK....You already had a PLUS from me and it is labled "HELPFUL"

What's up with all this racist BS? i mean god no matter where I go I can't excape it. Is it an unwritten rule black men must not drive or learn about fieros...YO..you know YO...like YO. WTF. The maturity levels are sinking real low. It always has to come to race...gotta love america.

i don't see race , hell i did not know he was black,and i still don't . all i see is someone that constantly steals from the people that are supposed to help one another . he should be banned and never welcome to return . i also hope his karma is bitten by his dogma.

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quote Originally posted by 86fieroEarl:I have never been ripped off from MTA (keith) But that will not close my eyes to the truth or overwhelming proof. Keith you will always be a friend of mine, But If any of this is true then im telling you as a friend.... you were wrong.Im sorry anyone I have got into it with...... But When I first joined this forum... I wanted and loved talking about fieros, All I see is bashing others, Running others down, Personal attacks, Being nasty becomming total jerks(mean spirited) Well at the end of all of this.... We all have the same car ...... WE ALL HAVE FIEROS !!! Im 28 years old and im going to start acting like a adult. Peace out.

Earl, this is the best attitude a person can have coming into this type of thing. It is an honorable thing to stand by your 'friends', but sometimes you have to re-assess what values you expect from them. Calling them your friends means their character is similar to yours. You can't pick family, you choose your friends.

quote Originally posted by Gordo: Ok Johnny, you finally got a "+" from me.

Funny how some folks got 'greener' and some got banned during this thread, huh?

quote Originally posted by USFiero: Funny how some folks got 'greener' and some got banned during this thread, huh?

That's because this type of thread often brings out both the best and the worst in people. By this, I mean both the people posting in it and the people reading it.

that sucks.
i use to respect MTA.
i even had him rated with a positive for "A public apology to Cassanova"

i guess i was wrong.

So has MTA vanished off of the face of the earth? When is someone going to pay him a personal visit?

What should be organized is a personal visit to his house by the few members who he has stiffed... Chris has the address, who's going?

Quote.." So has MTA vanished off of the face of the earth? When is someone going to pay him a personal visit?

What should be organized is a personal visit to his house by the few members who he has stiffed... Chris has the address, who's going?"

I thought lynch-mobs were a thing of the past? Don't sink to his level, and get good people in trouble..there are proper ways to handle this, surely? I am in NO WAY standing up for MTA, I have no cause to, and I feel He should be served justice...but by the proper channels. Again, don't get yourselves into trouble.Please.And, no matter what He has done, I should hate to think any children in his family might be witness to any harm being done, either way, to people.
Just think about the wider picture, not just extracting revenge.You Folks are worth more than that.
Nick

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Responsibility: the solution for our World's Dilemmas..

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Wow! Six pages in a few days.

88Ironduke

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I.Y.A.M.Y.A.S.

quote Originally posted by fierofetish: Quote.." So has MTA vanished off of the face of the earth? When is someone going to pay him a personal visit? What should be organized is a personal visit to his house by the few members who he has stiffed... Chris has the address, who's going?" I thought lynch-mobs were a thing of the past? Don't sink to his level, and get good people in trouble..there are proper ways to handle this, surely? I am in NO WAY standing up for MTA, I have no cause to, and I feel He should be served justice...but by the proper channels. Again, don't get yourselves into trouble.Please.And, no matter what He has done, I should hate to think any children in his family might be witness to any harm being done, either way, to people. Just think about the wider picture, not just extracting revenge.You Folks are worth more than that. Nick

Oh, don't get me wrong, I wasn't talking about a lynch mob, I figure though the reason people get away with internet fraud is because they don't have to face anyone in person... paying MTA a nice visit (no violence, just maybe as a statement) might get him to face up to what he has done... I wasn't advocating any sort of violence... just positive action.

I always thought MTA was a nice guy, guess it's a good thing I had never done business with him.

<daily BUMP!>

Earl, well said. It says alot about a person to stand up and call a friend out.

Same PFF, different scammer. I tell ya the WWW isnt what it used to be. MTA, if all this is true you are long over due for a trip to the land of 3 hots and a cot.

Hi Leafy, that is good to hear...but if you go to visit mob-handed, even if it is only to remonstrate with him, it would sure appear to the guy being "visited", looking out his window, that his Nemesis had finally caught up with him, and HE might do something rash!! Not flaming you, but trying to instil a little propriety in the proceedings !!!
Nick

quote Originally posted by Leafy: Oh, don't get me wrong, I wasn't talking about a lynch mob, I figure though the reason people get away with internet fraud is because they don't have to face anyone in person... paying MTA a nice visit (no violence, just maybe as a statement) might get him to face up to what he has done... I wasn't advocating any sort of violence... just positive action.

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This is too bad, I really wanted to see his car get finished.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043680-4.html
Even if he ships his parts and pays everyone back I dont see him getting over this one.
I guess he could square it with everyone and change his name

gonna be another week before this gets "resolved" at the rate it's going now.

I was telling cliff he should put a sticky at the top of the mall or general section, with people who didn't complete their transaction(s) satisfactorily, and ban MTA.

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One of my favorites from Keith's pasttimes...

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030819-1-028050.html

If you read closely, you'll find Keith's replies that were copied/pasted from PM's. And yes Keith, when you attempted screwing me over, you did send the money back... Whooptee damn doo! You still attempted screwing many people over, and accomplished screwing even more people over.

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I think some of you kids should cool down a little. It's my understanding that Keith has a son also named Keith age about 25 which has caused most of this., which one are we referring too, the son or the father? Or is my information wrong?

I've dealt with MTA in the past year or two and have had no problem with him. I've been around since early 2001 and this is the first time MTA's honor has come into question. With the MOB mentality this board has one person says a bad thing and it seems everyone jumps on board. It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

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I think he has a young child (I thought a daughter). But I can't rule out an older son. In anycase, I don't do business with any parts houses/ebayers in the greator miami area, or anyone in southern florida who is in anyway related to anything fiero/caddy/4.9/etc. Wouldn't it be neat if some day he coughed up the change that so many of us paid him for those front '88 hubs.

-Rick

quote Originally posted by Earl-R: I think some of you kids should cool down a little. It's my understanding that Keith has a son also named Keith age about 25 which has caused most of this., which one are we referring too, the son or the father? Or is my information wrong? I've dealt with MTA in the past year or two and have had no problem with him. I've been around since early 2001 and this is the first time MTA's honor has come into question. With the MOB mentality this board has one person says a bad thing and it seems everyone jumps on board. It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

I know the story, and it's not my place to tell Keith's personal business, but yes he does have a son about that age.

quote Originally posted by Earl-R: I It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

You bring up a good point, but I really want to hear what he has to say, especially about those "imported-duty already paid" wheel bearings. This was before a second run was done, and new ones were impossible to find. There were forum members that jumped on the chance at new set.. Thing is , no one got them..

If he has an excuse, I would really like to hear it.

I promise not to pile on, I just want his side of the story. There is always 2 sides to a story. Like the Archie and the guy who bought the turbo set up. I went back and forth on that one trying to determine who ( or if anyone ) got screwed.

Taken from Seanpaul's link

quote Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: > As far as I am concerned it is just the same old story trying to get > something for nothing seeking sensationalism and being favorite with the > crowd as far as I am concerned with you it is a done matter next time get > insurance.If you ever come to Miami come visit me or if you want to kick my > ass please do I will have something nice waiting for you and the rest of > clowns .There are some good people on the forum but there is a lot of kiss > ass like you who just seek to be popular with the crowd you piece of > trailer trash.Mother ****ers like you get a thrill to bad mouth people to > look good ,"***** " get a ****ing life if you don't buy from me others will > and with you sending emails to my bidders I have already taken care of you > and that matter. > Litespeed....... you did not scare me into sending your package it was the > right thing to do. > Mike Murphy.....get a life ,I am an American you piece of Bovine Excrement > (Cow **** ) > Musicman_7.....You are a lying mother****er did you not get you refund tell > the truth because I don't **** with the forum you all just keep lying..bout > you got your money in pieces.

This is definitly MTA. I know from past arguments with him, when you get him mad he flies off the hook and uses profanity every other word. This is definily Keith Sr.

He had "honor" cause nobody called him out on his wild claims and tolorated him for quite awhile. Now that we know who he really is, there is definitly zero credibility to anything he's ever said.

quote Originally posted by iced_theater: I always thought MTA was a nice guy, guess it's a good thing I had never done business with him.

I thought he was a nice guy untill I questioned his transaction with a fiero member and his hp claims and rather than responding to the question he verbally assaulted me.. not the actions of a trustworthy person.

quote Originally posted by Earl-R: I think some of you kids should cool down a little. It's my understanding that Keith has a son also named Keith age about 25 which has caused most of this., which one are we referring too, the son or the father? Or is my information wrong?

I have heard the same thing that his son used his PFF and Ebay accounts and caused these problems. What I don't get is if this is true, Why has it never been brought up? I mean if you had a son who jacked over a few people by hijacking your accounts, Wouldn't you try to correct the mistakes? Or at the very least explain back then once you found out? Or even now explain what happened instead of calling people liar's or calling someone else a theif ? If you look at the archived posts you can see that the person responding is the same as many MTA responses now. There are always differences when two people use the same account and many can tell the difference of who's writing the response. So far, I see very little difference in the responses.

I'm not saying that his son did or did not do this, But either way I feel an explaination or acknowledgement of mistakes is called for.

Why hasn't MTA replied to ThatRickGuy? Why hasn't he replied at all?

Still waiting to see how this turns out.

If that is the case, MTA could be a victim here, mind you, not a bright thing to do, letting your son or any other 3rd party have your password on a forum.

If he is the victim, we need to sort this out because a bad rep is a hard thing to overcome, and I don't like to see anyone get an undeserved rap.

But, that being said, the responses were not direct to the point and did not satisfactorily explain the claims of rip-offs.

Arn

quote Originally posted by Earl-R: I think some of you kids should cool down a little. It's my understanding that Keith has a son also named Keith age about 25 which has caused most of this., which one are we referring too, the son or the father? Or is my information wrong? I've dealt with MTA in the past year or two and have had no problem with him. I've been around since early 2001 and this is the first time MTA's honor has come into question. With the MOB mentality this board has one person says a bad thing and it seems everyone jumps on board. It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

You bring up very good points there Earl-R. It's not my place to share info.... But he does have a son 25years old named keith, I remember a while back I was talking to MTA, And his cell phone was fubaring up(kept on cutting out) . I remember him complaining about his cell phone... That would explain why he uses his sons cell phone for comunication.

I also agree about the witch hunt part....

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He did tell me the story about a younger son through PM when this thread started. Since I have no way to verify this, I'm wondering why he hasn't come forward with this info in this thread before everybody had a change to share their bad experience with "Keith Sybliss". I can understand (if this story is true) you want to protect your son - no matter what he has done - but if your reputation is at stake and you are an honest person yourself, you better come clean instead of going into counter-attack mode.

quote Originally posted by crzyone: Taken from Seanpaul's link This is definitly MTA. I know from past arguments with him, when you get him mad he flies off the hook and uses profanity every other word. This is definily Keith Sr. He had "honor" cause nobody called him out on his wild claims and tolorated him for quite awhile. Now that we know who he really is, there is definitly zero credibility to anything he's ever said.

It natural to get pissed when ppl assumes false info about you ( Personally I get pissed and tend to fly off the hook as well) You were pretty upset when you were labeled as a racist..... Were you not ?

No flames intended

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