quote Originally posted by Earl-R: With the MOB mentality this board has one person says a bad thing and it seems everyone jumps on board. It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

Well untill this thread anytime I politely questioned him I was attacked and took quite a few negs just for asking him to provide some facts to clear things up. Earl and I cleared things up but seriously there is an issue with whoever has the less popular opinion getting mobbed by everyone and their uncles room-mates cousins third sister twice removed.

quote Originally posted by Oreif: I have heard the same thing that his son used his PFF and Ebay accounts and caused these problems. What I don't get is if this is true, Why has it never been brought up? I mean if you had a son who jacked over a few people by hijacking your accounts, Wouldn't you try to correct the mistakes? Or at the very least explain back then once you found out? Or even now explain what happened instead of calling people liar's or calling someone else a theif ? If you look at the archived posts you can see that the person responding is the same as many MTA responses now. There are always differences when two people use the same account and many can tell the difference of who's writing the response. So far, I see very little difference in the responses. I'm not saying that his son did or did not do this, But either way I feel an explaination or acknowledgement of mistakes is called for.

With GmetalGT's personal experience, and some other negative experiences with MTA personally, and even with some others that have had some positive experience with MTA, wether or not its MTA or MTA's 25 year old son, would you risk sending your $$ to either of them?

Usually, The Apple Doesnt Fall Far From The Tree..........

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: but if your reputation is at stake and you are an honest person yourself, you better come clean instead of going into counter-attack mode.

Exactly. All it takes is 5 minutes to say, "I'm sorry, my son screwed everyone over. I take full responsibility. I want to make everything right, but I don't know how. I can't afford to send everyone back their money, but hopefully we can work something out. Please accept my apology. I also apologize to Gmetal for shoddy work. I should've taken the time to remove the manifold and plug the injector holes properly, instead of with JB weld and dimes."

Actually that took 2 minutes. My bad. But no, I see things like "I have your SSN, whatcha gonna do?" and "I'm calling your company to report your theft!". As far as I'm concerned, he's had his chance. This thread is now a week old. See ya.

quote Originally posted by Back On Holiday: Usually, The Apple Doesnt Fall Far From The Tree..........

Damn that was a lot of reading LOL.

EXACTLY!!

Those of you who are taking up for MTA.................well that speaks volumes in itself.
He hasn't shown any proof, and we ALL KNOW that GunMetalGTs car (Chris) wasn't done. Even though the master POS 4.9 builder said he would do it.

Protecting his son Cliff??

That's kinda weak. Its called responsibility and accountability. If my son did this crap, and dragged my name into it, and tried to get away with it!!! He would be left high and dry. Your son screws people and you want to protect him.......well like father like son.

Yeah this rating system really works. Koburn received negs for basically NOTHING!!!!

There needs to be a bad buyers and sellers section or sticky............pretty much every other forum Im on has one, I dont see why there shouldnt be one on here, unless I missed it.

OK back to the pointless arguing.

This is why we need some sort of buyer rating. There have been to meny people getting riped of lately. I for a fact have been screwed to meny times by ,so called long time sellers on here. I have not put it on here, as most people belive what they want.
I don't want people to get down on me, for telling of deals gone bad.

Jim

quote Originally posted by Earl-R: I think some of you kids should cool down a little. It's my understanding that Keith has a son also named Keith age about 25 which has caused most of this., which one are we referring too, the son or the father? Or is my information wrong? I've dealt with MTA in the past year or two and have had no problem with him. I've been around since early 2001 and this is the first time MTA's honor has come into question. With the MOB mentality this board has one person says a bad thing and it seems everyone jumps on board. It doesn't matter what the accused has to say he is automatically crucified. Sometimes it's just better to walk away.

What's with this apologetic defending? There only seems to be one side to this story as far as I can tell. MTK/Sybliss has been stealing from people for YEARS. He doesn't even defend himself, why should you. This guy is going around stealing honest people's hard earned money and all you can think about is "rushing to judgement"? What about "accountability" and "justice"?

I say call the police in his town and fax them all the documentation of transactions and theft. Let them go knock on his door and drag him to prison. It is never better to walk away from a real wrong doing. Confront it and be honest.

I don't buy the story about his son ripping people off, if anything they probably both did if there even IS a son. When MTA entered this thread he immediately attacked his attacker with blackmail, and didn't provide ANY sort of defense. You CAN"T say he doesn't have the ability to defend himself, he had and still has the chance, but he doesn't. Why doesn't he? He's probably guilty. What CAN he say?

quote Originally posted by connecticutFIERO: He's probably guilty. What CAN he say?

Probably guilty ??? Riiiight

hate to say "i told you so" but you should have taken legal action when i mentioned it in the last thread i seen a while back GMETALGT, but then again civil court is a joke. all he has to do is take a few steps and you'd never get anything out of him but you'd **** up his credit record though.

my guess is if the allegations are true he will probably come up with a new s/n after this blows over. so i'd say aviod all non-estabolished pff members offereing 4.9 caddy swaps or services(especially from FL) unless they can somehow verify who they are or are not.

unless you guys can get it to criminal court, just accept that some of you have been screwed and learn from it. it is harsh advice but that is all i have. every1 that was screwed, that has paperwork should make copies, get together and get the info to the d/a and pray.

[This message has been edited by dohcfiend (edited 09-20-2005).]

quote Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: It natural to get pissed when ppl assumes false info about you ( Personally I get pissed and tend to fly off the hook as well) You were pretty upset when you were labeled as a racist..... Were you not ?

I believe it was you who was calling me a racist. Funny how you came to that conclusion with never actually seeing me type racist comments. I believe the race card was brought into the previous argument by yourself or MTA to try and deflect come of the accusations that were being said.

In many ways, you're no better than MTA.

What pisses me off the most is the fact that if these allegations are true, and it looks like they are, all that is going to happen to MTA is getting banned from this forum. WHoa! Big Whoppy DO! Its not a real big deal compared to all the shoddy work and money thats been stolen. Hes getting away with it without any REAL punishment... jus a slap on the wrist. Wish someone was able too or willing to due more like proceeding with legal action.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: He did tell me the story about a younger son through PM when this thread started. Since I have no way to verify this, I'm wondering why he hasn't come forward with this info in this thread before everybody had a change to share their bad experience with "Keith Sybliss". I can understand (if this story is true) you want to protect your son - no matter what he has done - but if your reputation is at stake and you are an honest person yourself, you better come clean instead of going into counter-attack mode.

In light of all that is going on I just decided to walk away and leave this thread alone since this thread has become basically a witch hunt with every one claiming to know every thing about me where I live how much money I stole and you know what but from years on this forum it only takes one person to accuse another of wrong doing automatically you are crucified and there are people on here that we don't see eye to eye and my trying to explain is just a waste of time .I have 5 kids aged 10 to 31years old and like every family there is one that is out of line and my 25 year old is just that one and I don't condone his actions but I still love him unconditionally but try to steer him on a straight path.

Now I am not here to beg for sympathy or get into a court situation like I am on trial answering questions but to set the record straight I MTA has never stolen from any one on pff and I have delivered any thing I have sold or worked on for members here and if there are members here that MTA has carried wide tell me when . When this all went down I tried to correct 3 incidents that I found out some got their parts some got refunds some even got parts twice.

On the issue of Chris Webb's car that is another story but I never ever recieved $6000 from him to work on his car " Period" unless he was counting the cost of the car in the swap, he sent me money to purchase the engine from a junk yard from a running car that was in an accident also left a $500 deposit to get it started and what ever the car wanted I did send and let him know the approximate cost ans sent him pics of the parts purchased so how he reached that figure I don't know I got $1100 for labor a used monitor for all the extra work that was done

Build battery box in front ,
Provide and mount rear sway bar,
Install battery cable front to back
Fix rear brake (no fluid to wheel cylinders)
Replace 2 clutch lines
Replaced bad flywheel
Replaced clutch fork
Replaced blown cylinder head gaskets.

Finally he decided to use a carb setup after my dog chewed on his harness and I have done this in previous 4.9 swaps after the injectors were removed I either fill them with liquid steel or file dimes down and JB weld them in case you want to return to FI later the holes wouldn't be damaged unlike if they were reamed and plugged.
When the head gasket blew out I corrected that and got it running the intake never had a problem and furthermore he knew the dimes were in the injector holes because he even help filing one that I did not like how it was fitting and even bought the JB weld to reseal it .

How ever you guys want to feel as for rating it is a no win situation as there is a lynch mob mentality as evident when a new members who just joined with 8 post is being judgemental of me based on what he read so with that Cliff it was nice being here but got to move on with my life and away from this MTA bashing and no need for me to try and use another user name to stay on here thanks again .........later.

Ahh,

Keith, you've had your issues. I still remember that dash you sent me years ago. I'm happy to say I ended up getting the item i paid for, somewhat. I haven't read this entire thread at all, nor do i wish too. All i can say is that dash ended up going in the trash...

Good Luck with everything.

Steven

quote Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: . Finally he decided to use a carb setup after my dog chewed on his harness again ..

LMAO

CLASSIC!!!!, just like "my dog ate my homework"

OMG, that's great

haha. I"m sorry, but after all this, and the way he's acted, and that seperate message board, and the fact that some people who have got ripped off from him were at his house, WITH HIM, you still believe it's his son? Ahhhhhhh.. I'm sorry, but... Honestly.. I'm not a fan of the witchhunt myself, but this is ridiculous.. People get banned for cursing, yet someone does all this, tries to turn it around into 'towel theft', threatens posting of personal information for the act of vengeance, all while people have met him personally while he's doing this, and you put credit into an alibi like that? Holy crap, the rating system IS flawed..

quote Originally posted by crzyone: I believe it was you who was calling me a racist. Funny how you came to that conclusion with never actually seeing me type racist comments. I believe the race card was brought into the previous argument by yourself or MTA to try and deflect come of the accusations that were being said. In many ways, you're no better than MTA.

I label you as a racist, Due to some nasty things said on RFT, And how no one bothered to put the guy in his place. I also said I was sorry for putting that label on you.

When im wrong I will fess up... I wish you were the same.

I'll admit that I'm wrong, when I'm wrong. So you lable a whole message board racist because of what a few people say? Even If I wasn't the one that said anything?

Ok Earl... Keep reaching buddy.

Glad you appologized.

[This message has been edited by crzyone (edited 09-21-2005).]

quote Originally posted by JohnnyK: Holy crap, the rating system IS flawed..

Give it up Johnny. Your attempts to turn this thread into "the rating system is flawed because my buddy you-know-who got banned and MTA hasn't been banned yet" have failed on page 2, page 3, page 5, page 6 and now page 7. Now either contribute to the subject at hand or get your head out of your buddy's ass this thread. This thread isn't about banning, it's about people being owed a lot of money.

quote Originally posted by crzyone: I'll admit that I'm wrong, when I'm wrong. So you lable a whole message board racist because of what a few people say? Even If I wasn't the one that said anything? Ok Earl... Keep reaching buddy. Glad you appologized.

LOL....it funny how people would rather put up with a THIEF than knowing, or accused of being a RACIST!!! LOL.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: Give it up Johnny. Your attempts to turn this thread into "the rating system is flawed because my buddy you-know-who got banned and MTA hasn't been banned yet" have failed on page 2, page 3, page 5, page 6 and now page 7. Now either contribute to the subject at hand or get your head out of your buddy's ass this thread. This thread isn't about banning, it's about people being owed a lot of money.

I did contribute with logical reasoning. Dude was WITH him while he worked on his car, therefore, son excuse = debunked, at least for that con.. Let us not forget the dimes, also admittedly him.

quote Originally posted by MTA: Build battery box in front , Provide and mount rear sway bar, Install battery cable front to back Fix rear brake (no fluid to wheel cylinders) Replace 2 clutch lines Replaced bad flywheel Replaced clutch fork Replaced blown cylinder head gaskets. Finally he decided to use a carb setup after my dog chewed on his harness and I have done this in previous 4.9 swaps after the injectors were removed I either fill them with liquid steel or file dimes down and JB weld them in case you want to return to FI later the holes wouldn't be damaged unlike if they were reamed and plugged. When the head gasket blew out I corrected that and got it running the intake never had a problem and furthermore he knew the dimes were in the injector holes because he even help filing one that I did not like how it was fitting and even bought the JB weld to reseal it .

Okay one last time Keith You told me that you would do a swap for me for $1500 labor I pay for the parts. You would give me a running car for that amount ind it would take two to three weeks. Deal. I buy an engine, drop off the car (wich runs perfectly). You start having problems that are not my fault. You should have measured the fly wheel. You broke the clutch line. You f'ed the starters. Your dog ate my harness. You said it would be easier to switch to carb. The clutch fork broke because you didnt messure the fly wheel. You had the fly wheel put resurfaced instead of just getting a new one like I ended up doing anyway. You put the battery up front cause Your install technique rubed it. This meens that is part of the labor. I paid for all the parts. I traded you a part from ebay for the sway bar, because you could not buy from ebay because you ruined your account. I helped you pull the engine and do the head gasket and put it back in and paid you $200 for that Head gasket Job. I knew about the dimes when it was too late, when it blew 2 of them out at your house. I was pissed but couldnt do anything about it cause the engine was already installed and drilling on the intake would be stupid.

The $6k was total cost of swap. MTA earned the $1,100, and the other $400 came from the monitor, Items from ebay that he couldnt purchase, and some junk yard MIrrors that I bought him because he didnt have cash, and the Rockcrawl chip that you said you lost when I wanted to sell it to another member. He also got $200 for helping do the head gaskets. The rest of the mony was the cost of the motor, parts (some of wich I had to buy multiple times), Exhaust system, that you couldnt make but said you could, that I baught parts for. Battery, because you killed mine. And After Nine months, I took my car that wasnt running right.

You as a business man were suposed to give me a running rar within 3 weeks and couldnt deliver in 9 months. You took a job that you wernt ready for but mislead me to beleive that you were the best at this swap. You ruined my car and 9 months of my life Keith, but worst of all, YOU PROMISSED TO HELP ME GET IT RIGHT! EVEN IF IT TOOK YOU DRIVING TO MY PLACE! BUT, after bringing the car home you took about two phone calls and never took anymore or returned the calls or pm's when I needed you. It took my starting a thread about you and this situation to get a responce and it wasnt to help me.

That is the real truth not the twisted truth to make you seem like the one who was shafted.

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-Chris -
Custom Gun Metal 86 GT 4.9 V8 5spd

Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

2005 SRT-4

Just let his imagination take hold he will turn the truth upside down and make everyone think you are nuts. I called information and got the shop that supposedly had done head work on a set of junk heads he sent me after waiting 5 months and guess what? The owner never heard of him and was very pissed that someone would lie about their fictitious work and blame them but Keith was taking them to court to get me a refund.

What a nice guy!

By the way I'm 51, have 4 kids, own an insurance agency. Why would I have an axe to grind with him if it were not true? The $221 I lost to him is gone big deal I can afford it but it's the principal of getting screwed that makes me pissed and the fact he is still doing it to people here that can least afford it.

He is of little moral character if any and deserves some justice served if not revenge by several people here.

quote Originally posted by Mike Murphy: The $221 I lost to him is gone big deal I can afford it but it's the principal of getting screwed that makes me pissed and the fact he is still doing it to people here that can least afford it.

Exactly

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The unfortunate history of my GT

quote Originally posted by crzyone: MTA, why don't you remove yourself from the forum voulantarily.

I'll bet he checks in just to see if he's banned yet. MUAHahahaHA!

Alright Alright Alright... So, question.. With all the parts you listed.. It still doesn't lead up to 6,500 dollars "If I remeber correctly of you posting"... Where did you get that number from, and why? Just don't tell me that all the parts included came to 6,500, because they obviously didn't...

Now GunMetal GT, I will admit that MTA is wrong, as many will... But why lie about a figure off the bat? Thats a huge figure to be messing around with... From my position you are lying and being deceiving as well.. Not showing much on your character, but I still feel for you and your car. He should have finished the project.

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Custom Fiero Fiberglass

quote Originally posted by Custom2M4: Alright Alright Alright... So, question.. With all the parts you listed.. It still doesn't lead up to 6,500 dollars "If I remeber correctly of you posting"... Where did you get that number from, and why? Just don't tell me that all the parts included came to 6,500, because they obviously didn't... Now GunMetal GT, I will admit that MTA is wrong, as many will... But why lie about a figure off the bat? Thats a huge figure to be messing around with... From my position you are lying and being deceiving as well.. Not showing much on your character, but I still feel for you and your car. He should have finished the project.

Its kinda weak to try to point the finger at Chris when MTA has a CONFIRMED HISTORY OF RIPPING PEOPLE OFF!!!!
If you followed either of BlackAZZGTs build threads you can see hes no cheap Fiero owner. He actually puts $$$ into his engines.

Uh 6500? I have over 6,500.00 into my swap ALONE!!! Not including the car.

Its no POS 4.9 but the 3800SC parts add up quick.

Are the parts cheaper in Canada?

quote Originally posted by Custom2M4: Alright Alright Alright... So, question.. With all the parts you listed.. It still doesn't lead up to 6,500 dollars "If I remeber correctly of you posting"... Where did you get that number from, and why? Just don't tell me that all the parts included came to 6,500, because they obviously didn't... Now GunMetal GT, I will admit that MTA is wrong, as many will... But why lie about a figure off the bat? Thats a huge figure to be messing around with... From my position you are lying and being deceiving as well.. Not showing much on your character, but I still feel for you and your car. He should have finished the project.

I made a list of everything that I bought when this swap was taking place. It is on my home computer. I will dig it up and show you. It came to nearly $6k including the labor. I never said $6500.

I'm not a liar.

You have to read carefully.

I know of what I speak. There are most often at least 3 different versions of the truth. Each side has a version and the reader has a version. All three are subject to perceptions and foggy memory. Then there is evasion of questions and red herrings to throw you off the central issue, most often unintentional, but sometimes intentional.

When you investigate a matter, you have to assume memories are affected by perception and poor memory.

This case is no different. You simply have to chart out the statements and compare them, like a cop. I didn't see a lie in that case either, I just saw different information and different perceptions of the information provided. But what do I know? Any other law enforcement types on the forum? BTW sometimes two different statements can both be true at the same time. In this case though, I haven't been able to get things to totally add up either.

Arn

This is copied directly from the document that I made throughout the swap.

Fiero V8 Engine Swap

Engine harness & computer 650
Deposit on parts 7/1/04 500
Western Union for Parts 450
Carb setup Sumitt racing 400
Western Union #2 for parts 250
Junk yard run 100
Clutch line fiero w/h 100
Cold air intake ebay 70
Fuel pump 40
Oil cooler ebay 40
Exhaust and advance on parts 550
(150 Western U. & 400 P/O M/O)
Starter $100
Flywheel $200
Exhaust $150
New Hi AMP Battery $90
Head Gasket Kit $128
Rear exhaust work $180
Starter rebuild $40
Valve job $200
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Total Parts $3818
Labor $1500
Head gasket labor $200

Grand total $5,938

This is how the labor broke down.

Labor $1500
- minus
Monitor 300
Phone 70
Mirrors 22
RPM switch 33
Chip?? 100
500 advance @ Christmas
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$475

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-Chris -
Custom Gun Metal 86 GT 4.9 V8 5spd

Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

2005 SRT-4

GmetalGT hasn't ripped anyone off. He paid for a service he partially recieved.

MTA, Keith Sybiss, Bluemajic has ripped off MANY people. Who's opinion are you going to trust, seriously?? Come on people...

Being one of the people Kieth has ripped off, I'm going to side with GunMetal on this one. I can understand lieing about someone to make them look bad, but in this case, the truth is bad enough. Keith ripped off numerous PFFers (myself included in the $160/front hub from cuba scandle). And while I have had no first hand experiences with GM, I have followed his car's progress and never got the image that he had a need to lie about anything. Given the choice of the two, I'll side with the guy who doesn't have a history of theft, shoddy workmanship, and ripoff scams.

-Rick

This is pretty thorough and organized. Thanks for the clarity. So your car, which I really like alot, was not working for all the outlay, which is a PITA. One question, how much did it cost you in inconvenience and $$ to put the job right?

If you have that documented, that is likely the amount you are owed by MTA if he screwed up your car. The length of time on the job is something you likely can't remedy at this point, but.... My personal opinion on the matter is that if I screwup somebody's equipment, I owe it to them to make it good. This is advice MTA should listen to IMHO.

Arn

quote Originally posted by GmetalGT: This is copied directly from the document that I made throughout the swap. Fiero V8 Engine Swap Engine harness & computer 650 Deposit on parts 7/1/04 500 Western Union for Parts 450 Carb setup Sumitt racing 400 Western Union #2 for parts 250 Junk yard run 100 Clutch line fiero w/h 100 Cold air intake ebay 70 Fuel pump 40 Oil cooler ebay 40 Exhaust and advance on parts 550 (150 Western U. & 400 P/O M/O) Starter $100 Flywheel $200 Exhaust $150 New Hi AMP Battery $90 Head Gasket Kit $128 Rear exhaust work $180 Starter rebuild $40 Valve job $200 _______________________________ Total Parts $3818 Labor $1500 Head gasket labor $200 Grand total $5,938 This is how the labor broke down. Labor $1500 - minus Monitor 300 Phone 70 Mirrors 22 RPM switch 33 Chip?? 100 500 advance @ Christmas ________________ $475

That is a nice way to look good but your math and book keeping is so Fuzzy and exagerated just keep adding more ,you are making people believe you gave me all this money and I did not do what was supposed to be done ,but you need to tell them that many of the things listed were purchased by you and not me .As for your other numbers I am surprised you did not add more because I see you have multiple listings that my records is not showing for the same thing over and over and what ever money you sent was used on you car .

Carb set up you purchased $321.69 not $400
Oil cooler you bought
Cold air intake you bought
Fuel pump you bought
Clutch line you bought
Battery you bought
Head gasket kit you bought.

There are a lot of discrepancy in your #'s but I won't even get into that any more what about the extra work I did on the car like the sway bar I paid for that yet you listed it in the parts cost and many more and as you said I charged you extra for same thing why you did not mention it if you feel you were being ripped off I would.
All that car needed was to be tuned and you brought the trailer and decided to take it home and do it yourself now you cannot finish it and is now claiming I ruined your car ,you said you are a good mechanic so why is it ruined ?If you was not so jumpy your car would be running as I did tell you I will help you but now you talked all that crap and still want me to kiss your ass and still fix it........yeah right .

You need to fix the rat nest of wires under you dash board,the burnt out fuse box because nothing in the car electrically works and mount you seats good instead of 2 loose bolts,fix your rear brakes so fluid comes out instead of air ,fix your ragedy door panels ,scrape off the over spray on the dew wipes and your glass from that $300 Maaco paint job with the bubbles.

quote Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: All that car needed was to be tuned and you brought the trailer and decided to take it home and do it yourself now you cannot finish it and is now claiming I ruined your car ,you said you are a good mechanic so why is it ruined ?If you was not so jumpy your car would be running as I did tell you I will help you but now you talked all that crap and still want me to kiss your ass and still fix it........yeah right .

Gee, after 9 months and no running car he finally went to your house to get the car from you. BIG SURPRISE!!! And while Chris was trying to get to a dyno to tune, he kept blowing the dimes off the intake. Can you say vacume leak?

All the "extra work" would take a week to do, not months. Head gaskets, wow, big deal.

Everytime you reply you sound like a bigger arrogant ass.

My son, Bonzo, brought this thread to my attention because I have had one dealing with MTA. I was lucky in that my dealing with him was good. I bought a motor from him that he let me take home before paying for it.
From what I can deduce is that this was a deal that went from bad to worst on both parts. MTA couldn't deliver what he thought he could and he wont admit it. Gmetal is trying to recoupe his money. One question I have is on the figure GMetal came up with. Do you have possession of any of the parts you are claiming? If so you cant use them in your figures. About the only thing you can claim is labor costs and any parts that got ruined.
I don't know if I will do any more business with MTA, I guess it will depend on the situation. If I do, and I get taken it will be my own fault.

One more thing is that this is Bonzo's Dad typing and not Bonzo. He probably is going to get mad at me for even getting into this thread. So if you disagree with what I have to say please just post your disagreement and dont NEG rate him.

Bonzo Sr.

[This message has been edited by bonzo (edited 09-24-2005).]

Okay forget GMetal. I am right here. I paypalled $160 + shipping to Keith for an 88 front hub. After weeks of emails (the phone number he gave me was bogus) he finally stopped replying. I had heard every crack pot excuse in the book, wife sick, stuck in customs, in the mail, lost shipping number, etc. That fact is, neight I nor the numerous other PFFers who had paid for hubs received them, and none of us received a refund.

Until I see my $160+ shipping back, or the hub, I will not beleive a word MTA has to say about his experience with GMetal. So, what's next MTA? Smear my name? call me a liar?

-Rick

quote Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: All that car needed was to be tuned and you brought the trailer and decided to take it home and do it yourself now you cannot finish it and is now claiming I ruined your car ,you said you are a good mechanic so why is it ruined ?

So here is the crux of the issue. Who bought what and how much the part cost and whether the wiring under the dash was correct are all side issues. The swap was done and alot of money spent, and the owner says it did not run. That is the main issue here.

The swap mechanic says it just needed tuning, and the two could not get together as all of the problems and delays had caused bad blood between them. The owner says the work was shoddy and required remedy.

So, how much did it cost to correct the work and get the car running, and what is required to make it right?

As for the $160 and no 88 front hub, I'd be PO'd too and that needs an answer in my book nd possibly some Paypal action. And that is not to ignore the other issues that also need to be made right.

Arn

My point is that Kieth has ripped off many people. MANY people. His claim of shipping everything and never having ripped anyone off is complete BS. I never heard anything about his son causing issues, and I do not beleive that any of the hub transactions were ever blamed on him (by PFFers or Kieth).

This man is a liar, a cheat, a swindler, a shoddy machanic, a thief, and an all round general ass hat. He already had a chance (numerous times!!!) to set things right with GMetal, but what did he do? Threaten to expose his personal life on the forum, called his employer to try and get him fired, and tried to frame him up for theft. To see people attempt to defend him is just insulting.

-Rick

quote Originally posted by bonzo: I bought a motor from him that he let me take home before paying for it.

I hope the motor runs well for you. It will never be the low 11 second motor MTA claimed it was. Forged pistons or not, there is no way with the stock intake, heads and exhaust manifolds could that motor ever be in the 11s. Hope you got it for a decent price.

Okay, MTA,
Why don't you give an explanation for the other people that have been ripped off? Forget about Gmetal for a moment.

What about the others? Are you just not going to respond? Why not?