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Northstar Turbo build thread (pics) by PBJ
Started on: 12-15-2004 07:29 PM
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Report this Post04-17-2005 11:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJSend a Private Message to PBJDirect Link to This Post
some updated pics.

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Report this Post04-18-2005 01:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pavo_roddySend a Private Message to pavo_roddyDirect Link to This Post
Hi all,

That is a beee you tee full site!! OK, spill the beans, will it fit, you did a test fit right....

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It's coming along great Pete. That's going to one great ride! I can just see Becky going down the track at St. Thomas this summer smoking out another vette with a sub 11 run and you with a big grin from ear to ear!
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Report this Post04-18-2005 09:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Saber49Send a Private Message to Saber49Direct Link to This Post
thats amazing pete... another amazing feat of engineering... and its so pretty at the same time haha. good stuff.

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Look what showed up today! I'm going to be busy for the next while.

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What's that about "Open loop" on the back of the ECM?
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Report this Post04-20-2005 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJSend a Private Message to PBJDirect Link to This Post
The ecm is set for open loop untill after tuning is done.

The turbo manifold is done to the turbo

46mm Tial external waste gate.

Blow off valve.

And look, an empty engine bay to put it all in.

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Report this Post04-20-2005 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for brysonSend a Private Message to brysonDirect Link to This Post
I've got that exact same BOV You're going to need a pretty big wastegate to run 5psi through a T4 with a 4.6L engine! Hopefully that TiAL will treat you right. Good luck!
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Report this Post04-23-2005 06:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stroker54Send a Private Message to stroker54Direct Link to This Post
just wandering how much they past it at the border , full value or lowered to have an idea how mch it cost's once delivered in canadian dollars
i'm actually considering the megajolt combined to the megasquirt kit to start my 98 northstar
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The Holley Commander 950 cost me $1518.00 including shipping. Which in Canadian dollars is

$1918.91

Then the Canadian government and UPS wanted thier piece.

$358.61

Now Beck wanted a nice newer Laptop to run it.

$450.00

The look on the boys face when she wups them in the 1/4 mile.....priceless


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Originally posted by PBJ:

The Holley Commander 950 cost me $1518.00 including shipping. Which in Canadian dollars is

$1918.91

Then the Canadian government and UPS wanted thier piece.

$358.61

Now Beck wanted a nice newer Laptop to run it.

$450.00

The look on the boys face when she wups them in the 1/4 mile.....priceless


Pete


Dam that thing looks good... I'm going to a VW R32 Show today and there is one car that dyno'd yesterday that had 630 HP at the wheels. I would hope your N* should make that. Time for a Roll cage and 4 point harness.

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Report this Post04-25-2005 09:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJSend a Private Message to PBJDirect Link to This Post
Picture update.

External waste gate added to the turbo manifold.

Engine mount, Yes it is solid mounted on all 4 corners.

In it goes.

Here we have a turbo N* fiero.

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Lookin good.
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thank's pete
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Lookin good! Would look better in my car tho.

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Originally posted by Jncomutt:


is that the dump tube??


Yes, the smaller tube coming off just before the turbo flange goes to the external wastegate. We are hoping to have the exhaust done today.

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Looks great Pete!
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Report this Post04-30-2005 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PBJSend a Private Message to PBJDirect Link to This Post
OMG this swap is taking forever........stupid turbo plumbing!


Soon.. soon. For all those who have pm'd with assorted none related questions, tommarow

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Why aren't you mounting the wastegate right on the manifold/Ypipe???
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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Why aren't you mounting the wastegate right on the manifold/Ypipe???

The lower trunk was removed for the last engine swap so since we had a ton of space there and a lack of space under the hood, as well as additional heat, we decided to get the wastegate out of the way. It still ports off at the turbo flange.

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Hey Pete the project is looking real good, as usual lurking in the background watching your progress.
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Pete do you think it will be ready by next Sunday for the meet?

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Tabs. Yes I think it will be ready, I also thought I would be done it by now

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Looking good.
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that is going to be so cool!

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Originally posted by PBJ:

Now that is one sweet engine. I like the Turbo exhaust design.

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Originally posted by PBJ:

Where'd you get that small expansion joint? I looked but did not see where you posted. I'm very interested, thanks!

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We purchased the expansion/flex joint at the local parts supply store (Can-Usa)

The car is now out of the shop and requires tunning of the Holley Commander.

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Oh MAN that's gonna be fast! Are you planning on being at Carlisle?

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Originally posted by PBJ:

We purchased the expansion/flex joint at the local parts supply store (Can-Usa)

The car is now out of the shop and requires tunning of the Holley Commander.

Pete

Please keep us posted on any issues you have with exhaust leaks, I'm curious how well those will hold up to such a harsh environment. Did you happen to see a brand name anywhere on them? I've never seen them (such short ones) before at any parts store I've been to.

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Looks great Pete!

I can't remember if I told you, but I was visiting my family doctor not long ago and we got talking about my Fiero. He often goes to the track and he mentioned getting his butt kicked by "a woman driving an orange fiero with crazy-ass horsepower". Does this sound like anyone we know??? :}

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Well here is an update. The car is back together and tuning the Holley Commander was started. We have called off the tuning because of excessive blue smoke. It is burning oil like crazy. We have only been able to enjoy an intermittent idle and a few first gear tours around the parking lot. We have not even been able to think about running the engine under boost. So basically we have a V8 DOHC turbo charged mosquito repeller Right now I do not have the time to work on this vehicle. It is time for me to concentrate on other peoples projects. So those looking forward to seeing this car cruising or at Carlisle, not this year, sorry.

As for the engine we all knew it was a risk to use a 300 000 km engine, but since I was able to drive the donor caddy to test this is a bit of a surprise. All I really wanted this engine for was to test and tune and then rebuild or replace so really it is not an unexpected set back, just a disappointment.

Pete

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Hmm
whatdd'ya think it is Pete?

Sleeves? Or Valves?

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I hope, before you abandon the engine you have, that you take a serious look at the turbo as a likley sourse of your blue smoke problem. Its the one thing you changed on the engine, and it all the sudden smokes, and it could easily leak oil into the intake throught the compressor side shaft seal, or out the turbine side ring seal. Try taking off the turbo and jumping out it's exhaust path with an elbow.
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Originally posted by PBJ:

Well here is an update. The car is back together and tuning the Holley Commander was started. We have called off the tuning because of excessive blue smoke. It is burning oil like crazy. We have only been able to enjoy an intermittent idle and a few first gear tours around the parking lot. We have not even been able to think about running the engine under boost. So basically we have a V8 DOHC turbo charged mosquito repeller Right now I do not have the time to work on this vehicle. It is time for me to concentrate on other peoples projects. So those looking forward to seeing this car cruising or at Carlisle, not this year, sorry.

As for the engine we all knew it was a risk to use a 300 000 km engine, but since I was able to drive the donor caddy to test this is a bit of a surprise. All I really wanted this engine for was to test and tune and then rebuild or replace so really it is not an unexpected set back, just a disappointment.

Pete

You can't give up the fight take a break plan your next move then go

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I have not yet given up, just have other fiero projects that require my attention for now. I have removed the turbo to intake air pipe and inspected it for oil and it is not the cause of the smoke. I guess there is a chance the oil is leaking past the exhaust side of the turbo and is burning in the exhaust pipes. It will idle clear but once you rev it up and smoke just starts pouring out, you let it idle down and it clears out after a few seconds. I feel it is piston/rings/sleeves that are causing my concern. I will spend some time today to determain the problem. It was not till sometime last night that I was convinced that poor tuning of the fuel map was no longer the cause of the smoke.

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Sorry to hear the bad luck Pete. The engine and install looked great. (I got the personal view of it both out and installed)

I've had the occassional setback too on my build;(

Anyway, there is nobody better to solve the problem. Good luck Pete.

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Any chance you are gonna make some more of those T4 flanges with the two pipes feeding into it? I would love one of yours as opposed to building my own.

I have the flange, all i want is the two pipes feeding into it.

Any chance i can send you my flange and for a price you weld the pipes on? Not the complete crossover but like the one pic you have.

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