This is Part 2 of a build Thead of my 88 T-Top Coupe that has been transformed (here is a link to the 1st Thead https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/049019-2.html ) . I installed a 3800SC/65E into it about 10 months ago and have enjoyed it since. After getting it on the road, I had fun with it but missed my 5 speed. So I decided to build up a motor to replace the current one and use the current motor on a 5 speed to go into my 88 GT. I am in the process of completeing the 5 speed swap also and will do a seperate Thread on it. I tried to take more pictures this time of things I did but didnt get a whole lot of them. The motor/trans I found for this swap was a 02 L-67 with 23K on it out of a GTP. I have been gathering Mod parts up for a while to put into this motor and will continue to buy more when funds permit. So far the MODs for this motor are:
ZZP Proto-Type Fuel Rails ZZP XP Hot Cam, ZZP Full Size IC w/ Stage 2 Heat Exchanger ZZP Stage 4 Blower ZZP MPS w/ 3 in Pulley LS1 TB Kit SLP 85 MM MAF Comp Cams 105 Springs ZZP Modded Retainers TOG Headers Custom 3 in Exhaust FastFieros Custom PCM 3000 Stall 3.29 Single Chain Gears 4th Hardened Clutch
This should be a good start for MODs until the funds are right to get a set of ZZP Stage 2 heads to go on. The car itself hasnt had anything else done to it but will be getting a paint job after this install is complete. Here are some of the first pictures I took of the motor/trans once I got it home and satrted tearing into it.
23K L-67
23K 65E-HD
TOGs
Even though this is my second install, I still had a ton of quetions and once again Loyde @ fastfieros.com answered everything I asked. He has been such a huge help on both of my installs with answering my questions and helping me figure out any problems I have ran across. I highly reccomend Loyde for any work that needs to be done or a swap of this nature. I also had help from another PFF member Steve Reid(Custom84cp) with my fuel rails that I had to put together. He walked me thru everything I needed to do and even helped do most of it. I wanna thank both of these guys for all the help during this swap and for the future help they have not yet given me but will.
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This is the tear down to install the XP Cam along with Comp Cam 105 springs. Was the first time I did a cam install into a 3800 but it was pretty str8 forward after reading a few write ups.
Stripping
Ready for cam
Back together
Like I said not alot of pictures but a few to go along with the build.
Here are some pictures of me tearing into the 23K 65E-HD having no clue to what I am doing. Went in to install the 3.29 single drive gears and a 4th hardened clutch. Needless to say by the end of it all, I was at the transmission shop, letting them put it back together. I pulled out the lat cylinder and couldnt get it back in right. So I opted to let the trans shop put it back together for a mere 65 bucks. Should have went this route in the first place but I like to try everything myself. So for anyone going to dive into the 65E-Hd trans, pay close attention to what you are doing.
Trans Before
Tore Apart
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And here is where I am at so far with the motor/trans setup. I just finished painting the SC, IC and a few other small parts. I went with silver/dark grey for my color scheme, not forsure 100% if I am going to like it but if not then I will change it. Here are pictures of the motor on a stand with the IC and SC mocked up on it. I wanted to see how the 2 colorrs looked before I went any farther. So far looks good to me so I will bolts everything in place tomorrow and add the rest of the parts.
Mocked Up
Another Angle
Will add more pictures once it is bolted down and the rest of the parts are installed.
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Nov 11th, 2005
pavo_roddy Member
Posts: 4351 From: State with a city named Gotham Registered: Apr 2004
Outstanding project, keep those pis coming! Let's not forget the 5 speed swap pic to.
------------------ Ron Freedom isn't Free, it's always earned. My imagination is the only limiting factor to my Fiero. Well, there is that money issue.
Hey, bout time you got around to sharing some pics of that thing! Ready to install in about a week?? Damn.
I have been taking pictures but just never got around to posting them. It will be a more than a week now, we are closing on our house next week so it will probally wait till after the move. I could have insalled it this week but it is deer season here so the Fiero project gets placed to second for a a while. It will be installed and on the road soon enoug, I bolted everything down today.
AUTO ????? WTF??? I thought you were getting smart and using a standard this time???
Do you want pics of MY engine so you can make just like mine???
funny...I haven't received ANY phone calls for help ....................
Yes, Kevin this one is an auto also but dont worry, the motor I am running now in the car is going on a 5 speed and going into my 88 GT. That way I can have one of each, the fun shifting of the 5 speed but the reliabilty of the auto when I wanna hit the track and beat the piss out of it. I have a few pictures of your engine but I use them for what I dont want my engine bay to look like--J/K I will call you when I need some more help or next time I head down that way. You ever get that bigger intake put on and find a 99 up TB to repalce the one you have?
Not alot of extra time to work on my motor but I did mange to get a few more things done since I last posted. Finished up my low mount Alt setup using the 99 up 3800 alternator, installed the LS1 TB, installed the 3000 stall and bolted the transmission up the the motor. Still have a few more things to do before its ready to install but we are in the process of moving so it wil have to wait a few weeks. Next it will be getting it mounted to the cradle and have it ready to seap right in when the other cradle comes out. Here are just a few new pictures with the added parts listed above.
