I think it looks really, really good!! Well thought out, and when finished I think that will turn heads. I always thought the notchie was too short at the rear, making it look like a Fiat X/19..now it looks nithing like one!! Nick Umm.... own page 2!!
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Indyellowgt Member
Posts: 1950 From: Alfred,Maine,Fiero Country,USA Registered: Dec 2000
I really love this look. I think it really sets the notchback off, it gives you a little of the both bodies in one car. I for one would love to know exactly how you did it. What section of the GT did you use, where did you cut it, what did you use to glue it all together...Details! I have an extra fastback clip laying around ....... I would reall like to do this mod. Very nice job! -Jason
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pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16203 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
I really love this look. I think it really sets the notchback off, it gives you a little of the both bodies in one car. I for one would love to know exactly how you did it. What section of the GT did you use, where did you cut it, what did you use to glue it all together...Details! I have an extra fastback clip laying around ....... I would reall like to do this mod. Very nice job! -Jason
I wish I had taken pictures!!!
I will get into it tomorrow.I won't be around tonight or during the day tomorrow but maybe tomorrow night i will sit down and remember it all.It took quite a few days(like added up 3) but that was because I had to decide what to do and where to do it..I could one in a day now. Hell when I started the only thing I knew was my sawzall had a new blade and I went from there.
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fierce_gt Member
Posts: 1517 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Oct 2002
didn't know stating my opinion could be harsh. i know a lot of ppl really like that "mid engine" look. personally i hate it. i think you should be able to tell which is the front of the car, and which is the back of the car. IN MY OPINION(aka, means no more than you want it to), the fastback tail lights emphasize the long flat rear end of the car(probably because the trunk doesn't flow at an agle down the back into the tail lights) and makes it look worse. i DO like the look of the fastback tail lights, but on a fastback. and until i saw the pics i thought it would be a killer mod.
as for the look of the stock notchy's, yeah, i think they are as much of an eyesore as anything on the fiero. and i'm glad ppl are trying new things, that way i can see what they look like before i try it out. i wish you all the best of luck in customizing your fiero. i'm just not gonna jump on the fastback tail light bandwagon. actually i think one of the best looking rear ends is on the PPG cars. that is as far as "stock" looking mods
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Dec 14th, 2005
Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
I really love this look. I think it really sets the notchback off, it gives you a little of the both bodies in one car. I for one would love to know exactly how you did it. What section of the GT did you use, where did you cut it, what did you use to glue it all together...Details! I have an extra fastback clip laying around ....... I would reall like to do this mod. Very nice job! -Jason
I totally agree. That was one thing about my 85 that just bugged the crap out of me. The notchback tails just don't fit the personality of the car (IMHO, no flames please). What you have done makes the notch look very attractive. I am also curious how you did it and what parts you used. Good job, very creative! JD
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Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
You got it , no pressure! I just wanted to keep this on top. -Jason
Well the whole thing wasn't exactly rocket science and it was very easy. I would do a few things different if I did it again.
I used a Gt rear clip that was pretty beat up because I would be doing body work anyway. It had a lot of cracks and such so for all the GT purests don't worry no GTs were killed during this modification.
I never even removed the coupe rear clip I figured it would be easy enough to use the car as a measuring vice to line everything up. First I found two spots both clip have the same points to. The rear corner of the wheel well and a straight edge where the vent meets the trunk and then used a laser to mark a straight line on a curved surface. I did this to both clips and cut it with a saws all. So like I said not exactly rocket science but it does help to cut straight and do a clean job. After the coupe clip was cut I unbolted it from the chassis and fit the Gt rear on the back of the coupe.I trimmed it up soit fit in perfectly but then ended up cutting out an extra half inch so I had some room to work with. At this point I changed wiring harnesses and it is not very easy with out removing the whole clip or at least loosing everything up but that requires removing the headliner which I didn't want to do. I used a harness that had the cruise control and the trunk courtesy light And simply didn't connect the coil cooling fan crap. I installed the GT trunk caps while the GT rear was still loose. There are two brackets one on each side of the GT. They will need to be fitted in under the coupe clip also the coupe clip will have to be drilled so they will bolt in . Use the inner quarter window panels and trim them down to fit. Just remove the rivets and the top of them comes right off. Bolt all this down and line everything up and start tightening it all down. I ended up molding it all together but thought about keeping it seperate. Your choice. I wish I took pictures to show what the hell Im talking about.
When I actually started to think about how I was going to put these two peices together so they would be strong I decide to use foot long 1/2"sch80 pvc pipe. I put a bit of solvent on all the peices to soften up the surface then slid them inbetween the two sides. Kinda hard to finagle them in but they go in.Four equally spaced worked for me. A ton of resin soaked mesh wrapped around them and filling up the void. I used coated sheet metal flat head screws through the Fiero skin into the pipe as far in as I could get them. As they tighten up the two panels line up perfectly. Later when you do the body work use a grinder and grind them real hard real fast and they will melt down into the plastic
The Gt rear is much higher in the back so this needed to be cut down. I just cut it down level with the sawzall. A lot of filling and molding and following the curve of the corner after everything is in place. I used peices from the old GT clip to make the top surface straight and molded them in. Basically in the end it boils down to body work.
I could have done all this off the car and maybe it would have been better but I don't see how. It will all un bolt and come off in one peice now If I wanted. I think if I were to do it again I would build it on a wrecked donor chassis and put it on the car I wanted it on in a few hours instead of a few days.
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Dec 25th, 2005
Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
Could you post some more close up pics of the area that you molded in as well as where you approximatly cut it. Also what did you use to bond it all together. I'm a technician by trade but not a body man so I am a newbie when it comes to this type work on a car. Any and all info would be great, thanks for the time in writing it up and your anticipated help in making me visualize it. -Jason
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Dec 26th, 2005
Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
And 450hp on tap with a stock TPI Intake. Wow, that isn't a contradiction...
That is not at all being a jackass.
Yes you are. In reference to the PPE, You've been told by numerous people that the owner had dyno's of the engine which he displayed at the numerous car shows he attended and that the engine was far from stock. You just have a hard time comprehending that.
(This all from a guy who brag's about his Z34 DOHC car and it's not even HIS!)
Anyhow,
I always liked the GT tail lights but I prefer the notchback body. Pokey, That looks like a great job!
Well someone with a fastback fiero & a notchback fiero could easily do this for picture purposes in about 10 minutes Just swap out the lights and take a picture, lol.
Could anybody post a side by side pic of the rear end of the GT tail lights on the nothback and the stock tail lights? I need to see if its worth the work to make it cooler.
I was thinking taking a notch back fiero, and a broken fastback clip i have...and molding the fastback clip to the notch back clip, and fill in the space where the 1/4 window would go...just don't know how I would the deck lid because when you go to open it the deck lid would hit the fastback clip and won't go up no higher then 10in's. Guess you would have to cut part of the deck lid of a nothcback fiero and mold it to the body, or make it like the vents and be able to take them on and off.
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Dec 29th, 2005
pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16203 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
I was thinking taking a notch back fiero, and a broken fastback clip i have...and molding the fastback clip to the notch back clip, and fill in the space where the 1/4 window would go...just don't know how I would the deck lid because when you go to open it the deck lid would hit the fastback clip and won't go up no higher then 10in's. Guess you would have to cut part of the deck lid of a nothcback fiero and mold it to the body, or make it like the vents and be able to take them on and off.
Hey that would be peice of cake. Just mold them on to the closed deck lid and do a rough finish of everything then just make a perfect cut at angle so the deck lid and lower windowbase would go up at once. Then just cap off both sides with a made to fit peice of plastic. There would have to be some vent modifications also I think. But they would be easy.
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Jan 11th, 2006
pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16203 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
I think I recall talking about the checkerboard pattern when we were stopped waiting for the rest of the group out on hwy 1.. Can't remember exactly what it was though. Here's a photoshop of the car in two-tone with the GFX painted black too.
Hey steve would you change the lower gfx red?
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Steven Snyder Member
Posts: 3324 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004