I've been looking around and seen a lot of vehicles with bolt-on fender flares. It seems that there aren't any out for the Fiero, and there really doesn't seem to be a way to go wide-body without actually shelling out several grand for an IMSA kit.
Am I the only one that happens to like the bolt-on fender flare look a-la 240ZG
I think it'd give the Fiero a wonderful old-school racer kind of look, and make it a little less soft and a bit more agressive without completely changing the shape of the car.
Additionally, it also seems that there aren't a lot of choices so far as body-kits are concerned, given that there are a few, like the PISA corp Artero, and the F355 nose, but there's really nothing out there that's for a fiero that looks like a Fiero, or you have to do something crazy like rebody the entire car, which is a little extreme for the average enthusiast.
So, are there any bolt-on or glass-on fender flares already out there for the Fiero, besides the "turn the front panel backwards" method? Can you get anything sort of like this for the Fiero? (obviously not in carbon fiber, though)
Would anybody be interested in buying a set if they were commercially produced? What do you think about the idea of putting flares on a Fiero?
Like this: concept copyright N.G. Design Studios 2006.
Thanks for your input!
-Mulholland GT
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Posts: 7404 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
Yeah, those shown on the Z look great but on a Jeep. Sorry. I think Bubbajoe has a technique to make them fatter using another Fiero fender. Do a search for his threads and you may find it
I've always wanted to make some fender flares for the fiero, at one point I even research it so much that I ended up finding that there is a rather suitable flare commercially available for the opened import/Jap market that can be modified (this are generic) and can be adapt on almost every car, but they are very round like. (This will clash with the fiero sharp lines)
On farther quest for the “right fender flare look” I found a set for some kind of Toyota that happens to be famous for drifting, and which name escapes my mind at the moment. But this were only available supplier for these fender flares and they are out of Japan (JVM?). I found I guy off California who had them on his car and he email me with the info and the priced was WAY TOO HIGH $$ like $600 a piece.
Then I found a guy on eBay who makes a generic style of fender flare, he advertises them for Lexus. But they are way too big, although they could be trimmed down some.
Lately I just wanted to finish with my engine swap and then I’ll go back to find the right solution for this. But I’ll keep an eye on this thread in case that you or anyone else finds anything that works!
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Mulholland_GT_Racer Member
Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
hrm, well the idea was to have bolt-on flares that would either a) mount onto the body using holes drilled in the fenders (not a very 'positive' option, should you ever want to remove them) or b) mount onto body using the inside edge of the corresponding wheel well.
I already have a real nice drawing of it made up and a few sketches of the flare design and shape. I imagine I could probably get them off something else and trim them to fit accordingly, but it'd be nice to just be able to flat out buy a set without having to go through the hassle of repainting and stuff.
I'll a post the sketch later, along with my concept front end (same sketch)
I really like the daily-driven track-car look that I've seen on a few cars, and I think it'd look really agressive on the Fiero... you know, agressive without having to be completely over-the-top or ricey.
anyhow, I'll post the sketch later.
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Posts: 236 From: Ogden, UT USA Registered: Sep 2005
I recognize that car from posts quite a while back. Does anybody know if those are actually available for purchase or am I just wasting my time dreaming about having them?
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Posts: 2385 From: St. Charles, Illinois Registered: Aug 2004
there's a web site that makes that along with a euro style kit, I want to say that the site is called B&B spyder but i'am not sure. the golden kit went for bout either 1000 or 2000.
just type in fiero wide body kits and see what it brings up
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hrm, well the idea was to have bolt-on flares that would either a) mount onto the body using holes drilled in the fenders (not a very 'positive' option, should you ever want to remove them) or b) mount onto body using the inside edge of the corresponding wheel well.
I really like the daily-driven track-car look that I've seen on a few cars, and I think it'd look really agressive on the Fiero... you know, agressive without having to be completely over-the-top or ricey.
anyhow, I'll post the sketch later.
-Mulholland GT
Hmm....nice pipe dreams. We need more of that here. IMO the bolt-on w/o serious modification and trying to look "stock" and not to "ricey" is going to be very, very hard thing to pull-off. Plus you'll need wider rims and tires in the rear to make it all come together.
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yellowstone Member
Posts: 9299 From: Düsseldorf/Germany Registered: Jun 2003
Yeah, I've thought the same thing for quite awhile and have talked to a couple of body shops about doing it but nobody seemed very interested in flares. J C Whitney sells rubber flare material by the roll but don't know if they could be adapted or not and still look good enough to be on a Fiero. If anyone comes up with a source for fiberglass, bolt-on (inside the well) flares, I'd love to see 'em!
I am sorry to say that I also wanted just to add fender flares and I was the one who was asking about that site a wile back B&B spyder , heir is my thread on the same subject .
Go to a busy parking lot with a measuring tape, find some trucks and take some measurements... You may laugh, but it works ! Trucks have millions of these flares for offroading, if you find a truck that is at least similar, then order the flares, and modify if need be.
that is what I am thinking of doing, not real very much of a choice, I spent a lot of time looking around the net with no luck but I have one mod before thinking about this one, but i am all about finding a kit that will just bolt up if thier is one out thier.
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Mulholland_GT_Racer Member
Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
Here's the sketch I came up with earlier along with the concept front end. Concept Copyright 2006 N.G. Design studios.
By the way, the wheels I used were the 17's off the 1986 Fiero GTP concept car, and I intentionally went a little bit over the top with the vents on the hood [saleen S7 anyone, haha] but if the hood ever went into production, it would probably remain stock save for the black center section of the hood.
Anyways, what would you guys think about flares like these on the Fiero, commercially produced or sold?
The reason to do flares and not the full widebody is because then you have to go and do all kinds of glasswork, bodyfill, paint, etc, whereas bolt on flares, hell, you don't even have to paint them if you don't want to, and it's completely reversible.
So, what do you guys think?
-Mulholland GT
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Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
Nah. Just adding flares to any vehical except a off-roaders is just plane lazy, especially on a Fiero. I would be better to leave the Fiero "as-is" or take it to the next level. Buy some "true fender flares" from Fiero Warehouse, wide body, or just go out and purchase some regular front fenders and have at it! IMO the extra time and attention to detail will pay-off in the long run.
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Yes, you can go the extra mile but the point is that it'd be reversible, would not require paint and is intended for track use... I mean, what if your fiberglass cracks or something at the track or a cone hits your 'glass and shatters your fender? not cool.
Yes, you can go the extra mile but the point is that it'd be reversible, would not require paint and is intended for track use... I mean, what if your fiberglass cracks or something at the track or a cone hits your 'glass and shatters your fender? not cool.
Then who ever did the work doesn't know how to use fiberglass.... If you fiberglass cracks, then you must have hit it pretty damn hard... enough to break a 1/10inch panel isn't that easy...
EDIT - Wait a few months and I will have my F1 fenders molds... 2.5" widebody for the front fenders.. Don't like it after a while.. Sell them and install your old ones.. No big deal if you've ever removed a fender. Come april I will be starting back on my body kit.. Shouldn't take long to have the skirts, fenders and rear bumper into molds. Just the front will take a little longer.
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Posts: 1177 From: PORT SAINT LUCIE,FLORIDA,USA Registered: Dec 2000
oh **** , sorry dude... can you send me your address again? is it the same one?
I'll send off the air element before I forget again, school's harsh, yo.
its cool, I didn't have your regular email address so I PM'd you here a while ago but figured since your fieroless you would never be back lol. my address is Trevor Borden 104 pigeon lane Fountain valley Ca, 92708
hope no one else see's my address and mails me anthrax lol
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Mulholland_GT_Racer Member
Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
might want to edit that out. you get the h.g. fixed on that fiero? that thing should be damn quick if it's running right. oh, and i would spray the air filter cannister with rust converter, it's a bit rusty as that Fiero's originally from wisconsin.
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Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
Good thread! I am planning to mold in my flares in soon in my roadster build up thread and will post details of the mod.
sunbird turbo flares. nice.
I wanted to use 80's supra flares but I figured they wouldn't fit and would clash too heavily with the Fiero's existing style.
I was surprised nobody else thought of anything like that and why so few people were supportive of bolt-on flares and why everyone wanted to go straight up wide-body. After much thought, I'm still puzzled as to why it isn't more popular. The bottom line is, flares look cool, and take little time to put together and won't put your car out of commission for months at a time, and allow you to run wider tires/wheels without looking stupid. In short, I don't see why everyone feels they have to go full on widebody and do allllll the paint and allllll the unnecessary bodywork. Sure, the widebody looks bitchin when done, but it doesn't deliver immediate results. I guess because not too many people are focused on straight-up racing and are more into the show-n-shine kind of scene. Maybe that's why I was the only Fiero at SCCA.
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Posts: 224 From: Calgary,Alberta, Canada Registered: Mar 2006
No offence intended, but simply saying "Copywright blah blah blah" means nothin unless you paid for the actual copyright. As it was a drawing, I highly doubt you did. Amazing picture though, very good ideas, though the fenders are not something I would do, the hood is definatly hott.
No offence intended, but simply saying "Copywright blah blah blah" means nothin unless you paid for the actual copyright. As it was a drawing, I highly doubt you did. Amazing picture though, very good ideas, though the fenders are not something I would do, the hood is definatly hott.
copyrights like his are valid for requesting removal, but you can't seek financial retribution. Basically, if you put his image on your site, he could request for it to be removed, and he could take you to court to have it removed, but he couldn't sue you for $$$ for using it.
Looks like a neat idea, I don't think regular fender flares look right on a fiero, but Im sure some custom ones would look good.
(-I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the internet )
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Posts: 387 From: Iowa City, IA USA Registered: Aug 2005
copyrights like his are valid for requesting removal, but you can't seek financial retribution. Basically, if you put his image on your site, he could request for it to be removed, and he could take you to court to have it removed, but he couldn't sue you for $$$ for using it.
Looks like a neat idea, I don't think regular fender flares look right on a fiero, but Im sure some custom ones would look good.
(-I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the internet )
I just wanted something up there so noone takes credit for my work.
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Posts: 25 From: suffolk, virginia, usa Registered: Jan 2006
I liked your idea. I am not ready to do it to mine yet, but I it looks racy without going too far from stock bodied.
Which is precisely what I was going for-- keeping the body relatively stock, whilst at the same time look very racy. I got a kind of neat vibe from several of the racing Honda NSX's, and given that the Fiero and NSX are similar mid-engine cars, I thought why not take some of my favorite NSX-tuning styling cues and incorporate them into the Fiero with my own twist on it?
I thought that the bolt-on fender flares looked good with the stock body, because a several thousand dollar widebody isn't in everyone's budget, I wanted the design to look cool while retaining hardcore racer functionality of widening the overall track of the car without really increasing the weight too heavily. The body design I came up with would go extremely well with an Ecotec T/C, Ecotec S/C, 3.4 DOHC, N*, or 3.1 TGP McLaren swap, combined with coilovers to allow EXTREMELY wide tires, I intended to use something ludicrous like DOT-spec 335-series tires (attempting to burnout would destroy the tranny though, with meats that fat, haha) I also designed the hood for both downforce and better radiator ventilation, and incorporated an adjustable spoiler into the front airdam for some F1-like downforce. -Mulholland GT & the servicevan
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