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Ok here it is.....


A lot has transpired over the past few weeks, most of which has made me think hard, dig deep, and ask myself who I actually am. I've spent countless hours discussing things with my Dad and friends, prayed, thought some more, dreamed, and then talked again. It is clear to me now, it's something that I should have done a long, long time ago. I used to know myself, end for end thought for thought, I knew what I felt, I often just sat and wondered, but things unfortunately change sometimes, but not anymore. I've reached deep, and I know everything, why, when, how it started, and just what I have to do, where I want to get back too and what I'm about to do to get there.

This actually goes much farther back than months, and years. This all started way earlier, back before the Fiero and the arguments.

I know why I love the Fiero, how I could love such a little sometimes devious car that was built by a company I never liked. To like a car that I never had know, to love a car that none of my family had ever mentioned or driven. Why? Because of it's inspiring nature and legacy. This car never was put into my mind by someone with allot of money into it or someone who is a die hard Fiero fanatic. It was put there by people who drove them once, in the years past, and then never forgot about it and bragged about it because it was different. It was because of the people who had an idea, of what different was, and how they wanted to put their ideas into it, to build a car that had never been built before, to build something unique, to drive something unique.

I spent my entire 15th and 16th years researching this car, I got hooked, my parents wondered, "How did you learn about this car." I'd remember the MR2, which when I was a kid was the ultimate car, better than anything, awesome, stunning, and gorgeous. And then I remember seeing my first Fiero, poor old car, even though it was beaten and destroyed, I remember looking down out of my grandparents car and seeing that dash, orange lights, and tinted windows, WOW. I was 14, but I had no idea what the car was, or how many there actually were. But when I got older, and I knew that I was going to need a car, I saw a potential, the Fiero. From what I'd read, "you can fix it, build it, customize it, and love it, and there is nothing else like it". I began reading. One year later, and about almost everything stored up top, I finally found a Fiero. A red 2m6, all option, sitting in my father's mechanic's backyard yard, hidden away. Every time I went to get the Sebring worked on I'd be in that car, looking at the engine, crawling underneath it. I had to have one, I'd always now how to fix things and now was my chance to own an Actual RED two seater muscle car, that I already knew so much about. Eight months later, having gone to the mechanic ever week, going outside to see my future car, and waiting on the DMV to process everything, we found out that we had been lied too. The mechanic had never even filed the paperwork. I was crushed. Time for autotrader (that Fiero still sits there to this day. RIP)

Ohio. A purple Formula, 5speed. Complete suspension rebuild. Wow look at those wheels. More phone calls. Pulling everything out of savings that I could spend and then calling him one last time. "See you in one week." A 500 mile drive. Was it worth it to see this car on the busy road front apartment lawn, YOU BET! It was awesome, not like the other Fiero, no this one was special. No cat, racing seats, black interior, a beautiful sounding car, stiff suspension, this was a high powered car. And it still is. 500 miles back home with a busted hydraulic master, not having the clutch engaging half of the time on a 500 mile trip can be a problem sometimes, thank god for a father who knows how to drive well. And then it came home! My pride and joy, it was mine, I had paid for it, I had gone up to get it, it was my family's now, and they had helped me get the greatest project of my life and supported me getting this puppy roadworthy.

It started simple, fixing the hydraulics, which took months and daily trips to Advance Auto to talk with the manager about it (my boss now). Apparently they saw something special in a 16 year old boy who was so ambitious to take the car apart and put it back together, a car that most older men said was a deathtrap. One thing after another, I repaired everything, read through the Haynes manuals several times for fun and then started researching everything. Some things a 16 year old just can't do, like extract a stripped caliper bolt with a rod and weld. I picked the wrong guy to do it, and he destroyed my clutch plate on a joy ride/ test drive. So here it is, time to get dirty. Despite everyone saying that I should save the money, even my father saying "let the pro's fix this one." This 16 year old boy was going to learn everything he could about how to do this. It took 2 months that first go around. I did everything in my garage, with my own bought set of sears tools. I called Chris West, visited so many places for parts, picked up tips and tricks. Put the thing back together and it wouldn't engage. After talking with Chris for a good while he said it best, "Grit your teeth, go back out there and pull it back apart. Patience is a virtue, one that I had to learn the hard way. IT took 2 days the next time, literally, 2 helpers and an entire weekend but I did it.

How many people do you know who have decided to tackle pulling an engine out of a car on their own determination and despite what others have said, and then put it back in successfully? Not to brag, but I hold myself I high regard for this, most 16 year olds don't know how to change a set of brake pads, but I read and studied and did it. It all been uphill from here. I've done almost everything to my car and I'm proud to say that.

I guess I really don’t love my Fiero for what it is, I love it because of what it has made me, what it has taught me. I will never be able to repay it or thank it, I just have to love it and say good things about it.

I came to this thread hoping to find others like me, I thought that the reason that I had joined this club later on and had spent many hours here was too get a little bit more from it, something like I had experienced, to maybe learn even more. Granted I have learned allot from people here, but I was wrong. This forum will never bring me the joy that I have found in working on my car, it will never be able to substitute for it. I thought that maybe I could find someone here, someone who felt the same way, and someone to share stories with and to swap ideas with. I now realize.....

Even though I have probably spent over an hour each and every day here for the past year and a bit before that, I have never been as happy as I first was, as proud of myself as I was back then. I know now that swapping stories and ideas, is the very thing that I hate most, it's like giving a small piece of yourself away, and letting someone else copy you, and that takes away from the idea of it in the first place. Many people have an agenda here, many are simply here for entertainment. I see now that the people who choose too build these cars and learn about them aren't on this forum, they're googling "Fiero", learning everything that they can. I see a new crowd of people come through here ever month or so. Sardonyx reminded me of this the other day in the chat room, the guys who build these things and love them aren't here on the forum talking about them. They're out enjoying them, driving them.

I finally realize that I don't need a forum, or members, or ratings, or online "friends" (which really aren't your friends to begin with.) I need a life, one where I still love my Fiero, but I'm not wasting my time here listening to others stories or telling people here what I think. I need to get back out into the world and think about what I'm doing and enjoy it. I don't need anyone here, I never did and I never will. No one can ever take my hard work and pride from me, NO ONE. I don't have to be in a club to drive my car around or to go outside and build something unique for it. I meet people all the time who used to Drive the Fiero, and they always say "I got into something else, but I always remember it." One man I know, who used to drive a Fiero speaks to me about what I've done with it, where I want to go with it, what things that I've done to the car that are creative, and so forth. This man drives $80,000 dollar cars, lives in a huge house right down the street from me, and is a guy at the top of Sara Lee. He brags on me for what I've done, and encourages my ideas, and pushes me. He has never asked if I'm a part of the Fiero club or who else I know who drives one, because that's how it is, I drive a Fiero because it's a Fiero that I've built. And the sad thing is that it wasn't the Fiero guys who encouraged me, but someone I at first never even knew. This is how I want to be. I want to be worth a damn, not be part of a damn club, full of snobs and assholes.

This all came to me after I publicly posted something that would basically insult a member to their face. I thought that I could organize a meeting and invite people who also wanted to enjoy the Fiero with others, not just share a drink and a laugh with the same old crowd. I spent a week trying to organize this, and every time it looked hopeful, someone would stir something up.
It happened at 2am, up studying for a pre-calculus test, when I stop and browse the forum quickly and see what a member has posted. "I don't care if your family will not meet us at the usual spot, I'm not going to allow you to change it just to accommodate them", is the just of what was said. Pretty strong words for a guy who buys his Fiero at the same time that I've bought mine back some 2 years ago. Well I snapped, and wrote some pretty nasty things back, publicly. I don't really like it when people tell me I can't do something because of my age, it kind of gets to me. So the just of the massage was: "I don't care if you've spent as much as you have wastefully to have someone else put your car together for you, it gives you no more right than I to try to organize something." The message was much more crude, I was running on no sleep for almost 30 hours, and I had just been told to piss off, because this person didn't really care what I wanted to do...

I was writing a second message, one that was much longer like this one, and one that was much more affective at shooting this guy down when I realized something. "How the hell have I come this far?" Why does this guy matter to you, what's he worth? Why would you stoop as low as to shoot something back to him? It's like my father has been telling me ever since. Yes he may be an ******* , but you don't have to tell him that. I've learned allot from this: grow up and let by-gones be by-gones, and secondly be the better man.

I deleted these posts, it was a bad idea, and what did I have to prove anyway? That he was a jerk, heck he can prove that on his own, he's doing a great job of it. Well he seems to think that by ending it there and erasing my posts that I am a coward or a young child. And so....

The following morning, tired and worn out I get a phone call. It's the guy that I had insulted. He wants to speak wit my mother. No you moron your quarrel is with me fool not my mother. I think my dad has already left for work but he hasn't, so I tell him he's not home. Realize that he is at home still. Hang up on him, go and tell my father what has happened etc. He says to let him hear the guy out next time he calls. He calls back tiredly I try to get rid of him of but my mom picks up and this guy starts talking, so I figure hell I've got 15 minutes before school starts, let's see what happens. My father listens to him ramble on and on, calling me a liar, telling my father that I have insulted him and his friends, etc etc. So he tells my father he wants to have a meeting about it, "No I don't think so" says my father goodbye. Later that night we talk. I tell him about what all he's said and stirred up, and My dad reminds me of who I am and why I shouldn't even care. I show him the thread. Both of my parents are amazed and my mothers about ready to tell him off. My father posts back about how the situation is going to hell over something as petty as this, and that the entire thing is a simply power struggle b/w older guys and younger. The insulted member then replies back that he considers my fathers apology weak and pitiful. And then I take a long week to think about what's happened.

I now know that no car club is worth this, and if this is how a Fiero club member acts I want no part of any of it. I've had enough of it all. I've wasted to much time here and I see that now. I need to actually get back to the basics and what I originally loved this car for. I'm leaving this forum and I'm never joining another, this is all a tremendous amount of wasted time, and all for what? It’s time to actually be a "man" and live a life that's meaningful.

Robert Verhalen- The apology that you thought so lame, was in fact no apology. There will never be one either, both of my parents sighed in disgust at the way that you acted. I've printed the entire thread and shown it to countless people, and they all think your the biggest baby that they have ever read of or heard of, and my mother says that you are one of the most immature individuals that she has ever heard of, just encase you missed harassing a women. I've had many men if you want to call them that ridicule you and scorn you. Most of the people I consider successful and wise men, and the others very dignant women. I take pride in the fact that I could erase my post in honest knowledge of my mistake, but you've posted almost 3 other posts trying to shoot back at me, and it would seem your actions speak much less than your words. I honestly think it quite amusing that a 40 year old man would take the time that you have to insult back a "childish" 18 year old such as myself. I thank you sincerely though, you have taught me allot these past few weeks: The pen is more powerful than the sword; Some people need to just be left alone, it isn't worth it; and finally how to read the true character of a man, and how to react accordingly. I never came to you for help with my P/windows because I couldn't manage to connect four wires, two switches, and two regulators together; but rather because I thought it would be fun experience to share with someone who had the same interest. It seems kind of odd that I can rip the engine and tranny out, but can't manage to wire a simple ground power circuit, which I did end up doing myself if you remember. Thanks for all of the "trash" that you gave also; I'm glad you didn't throw it all away.

Carolina Fiero Club / Tar heel Fiero association- Enjoy your meet at Hooters on the 23, sound like you all actually decided to eat somewhere else after you "got rid of me". I hope that the 5 people going have a good ol’ time at such a wonderful restaurant with such great food. Opposed to the 15 or so people that would have been coming to Chili's had you actually known when to agree and just come and have fun. Your clubs will not last forever, as I can see that certain individuals are just sucking up to the others in order to be a part of the group, maybe all of you more "experienced" members will be able to hold your 5 lousy selves together.

Penoocks Fiero Forum- I've done my thing, I've given what I've known, and I'm tired of chatting here. I wish no one ill will, but sometimes won't you all sit back and think about what there is left in life, and how short a time we have left. Do something with the time you have left, go do something you will never forget. Build a memory with a loved one that they will tell their grandchildren about, go live life to the fullest. And as always drive naked in your Fiero, "life's short".

Thank you Cliff Pennock for building this site. There is a great number of wonderful people here who simply want to make the Fiero a better car, and to inspire one another. I hope that you get all of the return back from your hard efforts. Also sometimes life is “Fair” , and I know that despite loosing your brother in 05, you will have an abundant return from all of those that you have inspired.

Goodnight everyone. Fiero X, Soulcrusher, Little Devil and Fieromaster: keep on building the magic.

Signing off- Paul Haskins (Emc209i)

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Report this Post02-08-2006 01:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BobadooFunkClick Here to visit BobadooFunk's HomePageSend a Private Message to BobadooFunkDirect Link to This Post
hey man this forum is just another piece of this world. Just because you dont get along with one or a few doesnt mean the rest arent decent. Not to toot my own horn but i get along with just about anyone. And already recognize your name when i see it. This forum does kinda suck you in.... i feel like alot of these people are really close to me (Rumour,Gordo,Big Red, and F-I-E-R-O) are the closest ones.. but those are just a few...Others have more than gone out of their way to help me with things entirely NOT Fiero related.. You cant base your opinion or even actions towards a whole based on a part. In the world, people suck, and on this forum, some people suck. but ignorance is bliss, ignore, stay away from, whatever you gotta do... sometimes just bite you tongue (and dont click that reply..) and things will blow over. I am in all hopes that you stay.. and you being in NC... hey we could meet some day (i visit there sometimes..) and this forum is a great way to connect. SO!
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Take care, enjoy the car! I know how you feel.
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Report this Post02-08-2006 02:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Earl-RSend a Private Message to Earl-RDirect Link to This Post
Paul,

As you get older you will learn not to let these people get to you. I actually left the forum once, I had Cliff change my password on my old ID so I couldn't post because of all the BS that goes on here. So with that said don't feel bad about it.

The only time I come in here anymore is when I'm looking for a part or looking up something technical in the archive. Just enjoy your car and to hell with everything else. Worry about the things you can change, not what you can't change.

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Report this Post02-08-2006 06:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for aerosmithr0ckerSend a Private Message to aerosmithr0ckerDirect Link to This Post
All I have to say is you did take the list of names i sent you and changed some of them from no preference to chilis. You took things too seriously and never really tried to work things out with Robert who isnt a jerk. I have heard and seen first hand what you have been telling people behind my back and that is very disrespectful. I was on your side till you went off the deep end and attacked people instead of working it out and then changing the information I sent you.

Btw you claim we had 15 coming it never works out with having that many hell for a bigger show at the Autofair we dont have 15 coming and it is a funner event than lunch at chilis plus it is on both saturday and sunday. You attacked the raleigh guys for not driving when you havent gone to anywhere but winston meets. So I rest my case on that.

The other "5 lousy selves" 2 of them are new members. Mr. Barksdale is driving from Virginia just to have fun, Paul is new and is bringing a few friends. Robert and Randy are always fun to have around and they have worked hard to earn what they have in their cars. Robert is able to buy the stuff for his car because he has worked his whole life and is to a point where he can do that and has built many with his own hands in the past. I respect that. Then there are people like Jack who you are insulting by that and he has done more with the Fiero than really any other member in this area. HE has gone to more events, his car is well known. And you are disrespecting him as one of the "experienced members"

When you do decide to be an adult since from what I understand you are 18. Please apologize there is no reason to keep fighting and blaming everyone else for this issues you helped cause. We will not be your scapegoats just so you can feel better about yourself for leaving this great community you decided to attack some of its members. Have a nice life, and enjoy your fiero. You will be welcome to any event CFC puts on as long as you do apologize.

Also you are still welcome to the AutoFair in charlotte as it isnt put on by Tarheel or CFC but Cfog.

Have a nice life,
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Report this Post02-08-2006 07:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
There are still some great builders on here. If I had not found this place I would have returned my first Fiero and never even looked at another. Dont blame the forum its just a meeting place. If you dont like what you are reading then move to another thread.
This is the internet after.

I hope you have fun with your car, good luck in school and have a good life that will teach the people that piss you off. In other words just move along and find the good in other places.

These are a few of my favorite threads
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/046970.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/048610.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/024804.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/043414.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/069871.html

I was going to post some names of people that have helped me but because I know I will forget someone I wont. But where else can you ask a question about putting a SBC in a Fiero and have 4 anwsers by the end of the day?

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Sorry you chose to "leave"., but hopefully, you'll stop by from time to time.
This place has been great for many of us for different reasons, and if you find yourself getting "sucked in" or having it impact your life too much, it may be best to leave it for awhile. Close the browser, go outside,and take a drive...

I know one of the reasons why I have been glued here is that there are some days my buttocks are glued to a chair, and I am on the phone with customer support all day. Thank god for the internet, or the elevator music would drive me nuts...

Hope things go well for ya, I am ignorant to most of the issues you describe with others here and with that fiero club...but if you must "move on", do so remembering the good times, as it seems you have done...


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wow. sorry - that was just to long to read, so I didnt. made it thru a paragraph or two. someone want to summerize? or is it not worth it?
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I know how you feel; I have to say this has been the worse forum I have been on for drama. I also plan on leaving it and have stopped posting my build stuff on here because of the crap I have had from a certain member here. I have never had as many lies told about my car or me as this person has told and never had to defend myself to anyone as much as here. The sad part is this forum allows it to happen. I wanted to share ideas and help but ended up getting bash and trash talked in all my threads I have to say it is not good to have someone tell lies after lies about you and never have to answer for it. If it is the truth I say go for it I will debate with anyone all day but to deliberately flat out and make up crap is not acceptable and this forum has allowed it to keep going on. I plan on getting my web sight up soon and will have all my stuff there and will not have to deal with the drama there is here; also a web sight being built called diyfiero is coming soon that will have a lot of good info on it to help others buy parts and work on their cars. I wish you all the luck and I believe you made a wise choice I have some things to get finished here then I'm gone from this forum also.
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wow. sorry - that was just to long to read, so I didnt. made it thru a paragraph or two. someone want to summerize? or is it not worth it?

It's pretty much your standard angry and bitter "you all suck, so I'm leaving" post.

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Ya'll READ ALL OF THAT?!?! not me.
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Ya'll READ ALL OF THAT?!?! not me.

Well, it didn't start out sounding like the typical "I'm leaving" post, but that's where it ended up. Plus, there were a few funny quotes, especially if taken out of context...

 
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I know now that swapping stories and ideas, is the very thing that I hate most,
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I need a life,
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I don't need anyone here, I never did and I never will. No one can ever take my hard work and pride from me, NO ONE.
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I want to be worth a damn, not be part of a damn club, full of snobs and assholes.
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I'm leaving this forum and I'm never joining another, this is all a tremendous amount of wasted time, and all for what? It’s time to actually be a "man" and live a life that's meaningful.
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I've had many men if you want to call them that ridicule you and scorn you.
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Your clubs will not last forever, as I can see that certain individuals are just sucking up to the others in order to be a part of the group, maybe all of you more "experienced" members will be able to hold your 5 lousy selves together.

Just a few of the highlights. You get the idea.

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not as humorous an exit as that other "...better car aquired..." guy...

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To summarize Paul’s last rant before his leaves,

• Never apologies for his actions
• Feels he can generalize about people call them names and be respected
• Thinks the world revolves around him and no one has done anything to cars in more depth then himself in the last two years.
• States that he had 30 hours of no sleep to blame for his actions, (that is no excuse)
• Paul thinks that by forging a list of names, changing locations is fine to suit his purpose is OK.
• Deletes his posts, so he looks like an angel is OK
• Then uses the Phrase “God Bless, etc makes him forgiven and blameless.”
• Talks behind the backs of people to see his side of it only.
• Chats online with others to sway their views to his side
• Argues with 5 different members about his point of view (his way or no way)
• Then blames everyone else for HIS actions.
• Never attends out of town meetings or shows
• Takes free hardware for his car just to sell it to make a profit.
• Only shows up at our home when he needs something for himself.

Yes, called his father, since his attitude warranted a response by an adult to an adult.
But as one member has gracefully put in an email to me,

“The nut does not fall to far from the tree.”

It is amazing to me that someone would bash others for sharing ideas, what they THINK they are, speak without knowledge; speak without knowing the backgrounds, technical expertise or relationships of people in this group. Some here can not twist a wrench and pay for labor, others enjoy digging right in and doing it themselves.

My Fiero hat is off to both kinds of people, but to bash them to wrong, just plain wrong.

Paul’s drama needs to end here and now, we are tired of it. I know I am.

Let’s get back to having a normal PFF life without Paul’s issues. Please.

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Report this Post02-08-2006 06:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sonic50Send a Private Message to sonic50Direct Link to This Post
Bye!!!! Good luck with the fiero.

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Report this Post02-08-2006 06:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for aerosmithr0ckerSend a Private Message to aerosmithr0ckerDirect Link to This Post
ooh i missed the sucking up part. It appears that is aimed towards myself. One note on that if you are refering to me siding with Robert, I have no reason to suck up to him. We have a mutual respect and friendship. And both have had very positive comments and views towards each others cars. I sided with him after a lot of the stuff I recieved in emails and private messages and after the way you presented yourself.
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Report this Post02-08-2006 06:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rverhalenSend a Private Message to rverhalenDirect Link to This Post
I think he was talking about himself..... Look here.....

This was posted on the date below in PFF, go look it up, right after I gave him the parts for his car, plus dinner!
By Paul Haskins

05-22-2005 12:28 AM


Thanks Mr. Van Halen! Once again dinner was great, thanks for trying to kill me with all of the food . This Formula could be ranked with the top 20 Fiero's in existance in my oppinion, I've never seen such a slick car that made feel so lucky to ride in. I appreciate your offer, and I've a feeling me and Randy might be working alot on the cars over the summer. Goodluck with the liscense Randy, hope it goes well. DoubleC4, I just read what you've said and I'm kinda wondering what Robert is thinking after telling me it was FINNALY finished tonight.... I think that the fiero is awesome the way it is.... Mabye you could make the mods you preposed and send them too him in the mail . Goodluck Guys with it, I'll be waiting for the pictures tomorrow!

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Report this Post02-08-2006 07:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for topcatSend a Private Message to topcatDirect Link to This Post
What I do not understand is why type out such a long goodbye? If I decide to leave, I will just go away and no one will miss me at all.

You are on target in that you do not need a forum... But if sympathy is what you are looking for, sorry, but no sympathies from me. I can only assume that is why you wrote out such a long good bye?

Best of luck with your Fiero.

BTW, I quit reading after paragraph 2.

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I did not even read it! I am happy that he went bye bye.
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Sorry, wrong forum.

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Report this Post02-08-2006 11:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderDirect Link to This Post
Paul, if you're reading this thread, take care!

... though I hope you're not, considering the reasons you've mentioned for leaving.

If you can pull off getting out of this crazy stuff I've got respect for you. I agree, the 'net isn't the best place to learn who you are.

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Report this Post02-10-2006 04:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NY_FIEROClick Here to visit NY_FIERO's HomePageSend a Private Message to NY_FIERODirect Link to This Post
Just remember that every dozen roses has at least one prick.
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Report this Post02-10-2006 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rverhalenSend a Private Message to rverhalenDirect Link to This Post
Yea and that is the one that left!

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