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SCORE...original Huffaker engines and other incredible parts by Toddster
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I just got back from Colorado where Race Car driver Jack Ondrack had driven down from Canada to drop off his cache of 4-cylinder parts. He acquired it all from Joe Huffaker when Huffaker got out of Fiero racing. Ondrack picked-up from there and ran his 1987 Fiero GT with Super Duty 4 engines to victories for years. Jack has decided to get into 6 cyl engines and I bought all of his Fiero stock.

Get your bibs on, the drooling is about to begin in earnest.


Three Super Duty eninges, 2 complete, 1 short block as well as all the parts needed to build-up the 3rd engine. Many of the parts still have the "Huffaker Engineering" tags on them.

I am now the world's largest supplier of Fiero Getrag Webster racing gears:

Look at the polish on that crank!!!! It was built by "Hank the Crank" at a cost of $2000 for Joe Huffaker! Now THAT's expensive steel.

Got Getrag?

Two fully race prepped Getrags.

And for the denoumont....REAL INDY AXLES! That's right, Saginaw gear made 12 sets of heavy duty axles for the original Indy Pace Car and shipped them to John Callies at the arizon proving grounds in 1984. except for the 4 sets used on the Indy Prototype and Real Pace cars as well as the PPG cars, I have all the rest of the sets, 3 of them un-used in their original boxes!

I haven't even finished inventorying everything but among the other goodies:

4 Webster side draft 55 carbs...worth about $1000 each
An original MSD ignition and disty set-up
extra SD crank
spare valve covers, and gaskets
all the parts necessary to build 6 more complete race prepped trannys
one header
valves, valves, and more valves etc.

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Well how much did you spend, how much do you want to get rid of?


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Originally posted by rverhalen:

Well how much did you spend, how much do you want to get rid of?

All up, the retail value is around $120,000. I got the lot for a lot less but I'm not saying how much. I'll be selling off a lot of the stuff but keeping some for my race car and Indy build-up project. Fierobear already has dibs on one of the engines. I still have to inventory everything and price it all. Give me a couple of days on that.

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Holy Schnickies!!!

Excellent score!

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I'm in awe... that rocks!
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Report this Post06-16-2005 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
put me down for a race (or good) getrag !!! (I will give you two other getrags ( need rebuilt) in exchange as well

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Report this Post06-16-2005 12:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
can you give us any more info on the getrag gear sets? i may be very interested.
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Make that two (2) Getrags!!!!
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Thats a serious score!
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I...I...I...

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So, what's done to the "race prepped" Getrags? And how much?
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Report this Post06-16-2005 01:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierOmarSend a Private Message to FierOmarDirect Link to This Post
Todd: How do you do it???

BTW, there is a guy up there in you area somewhere who as I understand worked with Huffaker back when these engines were being developed. Might be able to offer you some interesting insight. I'll try to touch base with him.

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Report this Post06-16-2005 02:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
I'm renting a small moving van and making a trip out to Morgan Hill in the middle of the night.

Seriously though, you said you were getting some good stuff, but I had no idea you were gonna come away with a haul like this!

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Please let me (or all of us know) about these race-prepped Getrags!!!! And also about the Webster gears. Can those be reproduced?

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Report this Post06-16-2005 02:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LT188GTSend a Private Message to LT188GTDirect Link to This Post
Please add me to the list of wannabe Getrag owners.
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Report this Post06-16-2005 02:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wiccantoySend a Private Message to wiccantoyDirect Link to This Post
intrested in the parts to make a race prep getreg . also knowing what is put into them to make them race ready

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You can put me on the list for one of the Getrag's also, SOLD...Thanks, Craig

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The race prepped Getrags have the Webster straight cut gear sets. The gears are more strudy that the stock gears and if you look at the picture above you can see that the housing is extended to accomodate them. I have sets of various 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th gears as well as final drives and 28 spare cases and housings. The ratios vary. I still have to look over them all but I have a few 3.65 finals, at least one 3.94 final, and a few 3.39 final drive gears. My next goal is to find a good local tranny shop who has experience race preping getrags and get a quote for making a few from the parts I have.

After talking to Jack about it, he said he had 2 getrags ready built, one for racing and one for a spare. But he never used the spare since the race tranny NEVER broke...that's with upwards of 400hp on it!

I'll have more details this weekend when I can go through all of the boxes.

You can bet that one of these trannies is going in my next car though!

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Someone could make a lot of money if they race prepped our getrag tranny's...
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Originally posted by Scythe:

Someone could make a lot of money if they race prepped our getrag tranny's...


Na Not Really. Considering that only 5% of Fiero owners do the spending for 95% of Fiero parts bought. You can probably count on one hand the amount of Fiero owners that have really high $$ Fiero's and a 3K $$ Tranny would be a high dollar Fiero part.

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I'll take one of the 3.29 Getrags for my '88 Racer. This trans will be put in a race-only
SCCA "A" Prepared 4.9 Fiero which will also be used for track days and hot-lapping
(exactly what they were designed and built for).

Please PM me when you finish inventorying and can determine a final price.

I wonder how many others have ever driven a car with a straight-cut gearbox? They
are sure not that great for street use - I can't even drive my sons Camaro without a
helmet to deaden the noise!! And I definitely wouldn't want to use one of these trans
for drag racing, they are not that easy (or fast) shifting, either.

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Report this Post06-16-2005 04:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
So who do I make my check out to? I like the 5-speed tranny.
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ow much do you want for one of those motors?
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WOW! You da man! Keep us informed on the Getrag gear repacement idea. If you get the machinist to figure out how to get the gears to be street legal (no noise), you could be sitting on a pile of diamonds.

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You are the luckiest MOFO i have ever heard of ! Good score man ,hopefully you can duplicate some of the parts for the "race prep " getrags. Man i am green with envy ....Good score .

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WOW! WOW WOW!, etc, etc
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Report this Post06-16-2005 06:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
I am convinced now Toddster (based on this and past scores) that you know how to hypnotise people. You are getting sleepy, you will sell me all your Fiero parts for $1000

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If there are any left, lol put me dowm for one of the Race Prepped Getrags.
Seriously great find and let me know on one of them.

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come on come on, how much for the getrag gearsets??? LOL

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If you want to sell a getrag or one of the gearsets, let me know. I'm willing to spend a lot.
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Great find....... it must have been real hard to keep from screaming in delite as you unpoaded this guys' parts.

I have a good friend that has one of the original Huffaker cars. He still races it in Club Racing. I'll bet he'd like to get ahold of one of the gear sets.


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Originally posted by Archie:

I'll bet he'd like to get ahold of one of the gear sets.


Archie

Give him my name. I'll be selling a lot of spare stuff as soon as I can inventory everything.

As for the rest of the goodies, I couldn't resist opening a few boxes. It was like Christmas. Check some of this stuff out:

4 complete sets of BRAND NEW COSWORTH Pistons (no 4 valve heads unfortunately, but I'm sure I can find buyers)

A set of pistons with "Superod" connecting rods already polished and balanced.

4 brand new, still in the box, .460 lift Intake, .420 lift exhaust Isky Cams

And for dessert, 3 Saenz Limited Slip Diffs!!!! :wow:. (Saenz makes the diffs for REAL Indy race cars) I am not kidding when I say these are worth $1000 each!

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To answer a few questions:

FieroOmar, if you can hook up with him let me know his name and number. I need all the help I can get.

Formula88, the "Race Prep" includes a new detent made from aluminum billet, all new Webster Gears including the final drive gear, machined axle bearing races to accept larger bearings than stock, new heavy duty drive shafts, and more. They aren't chep but they are totally indestructable trannys. Ondrack had over 300hp (depending on engine configuration) pushing this tranny of his through agressive race courses and never broke one.

Funkmaster, I like your thinking

AusFiero, well...it worked on girls in high school

For all of you asking about gear sets, I'll put a complete list together with pricing as soon as possible.

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Put me down for getrag gears... and I have the $$ to back it up...
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Holy Crap,....Toddster the Government should have hired YOU to find Osama Bin laden !

How the hell do you keep finding all these cars and parts ????

This one pretty much takes the cake though !

Don't know if you got a wife, but if you do,.... best to just tell her you just picked up another batch of worthless stuff from the Junkyard,..nothing special. Hehehehe.

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Originally posted by Toddster:


All up, the retail value is around $120,000. I got the lot for a lot less but I'm not saying how much. I'll be selling off a lot of the stuff but keeping some for my race car and Indy build-up project.

I stopped by Toddster's place today, and let me tell you, the pix hardly do this stuff justice. It is AMAZING. It took all I had not to drool on the stuff.

 
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Fierobear already has dibs on one of the engines. I still have to inventory everything and price it all. Give me a couple of days on that.

Can you say "Superduty Indy project" for the bear?

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******* **** thats ridiculous.

Scott, I've got ninja gear, lets go for it.

Kidding aside.. congrats, Toddster. Absolutely friggin ridiculous good find.

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Originally posted by revin:

put me down for a race (or good) getrag !!! (I will give you two other getrags ( need rebuilt) in exchange as well

Todd, if you do that deal, and don't want both of his Getrags, I might want one.

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