I wasn't disqualifying the V8 fiero, I was asking WHERE IS IT? I'd like to know. I find it interesting. And i didn't say i was the AUTHORITY of a valid timeslip. ny timeslip that is legit is valid to be posted on my list. And my list is composed of Forum members for the most part. I had to add some none members because some people pitched a fit. I can't psot info on cars I don't know about, thats why I try to keep it forum only and BTW, my list isn't the Guiness Book of World records. It for FUN. And all X is doing, is for fun.
There was a red fiero at the medicine hat drag strip last year that ran a 10.** with the engine in the back. It looked like it would be a pain to get in and out of becasue it had a rollbar, and it was a pain getting into it when he let me sit in it.I think it had a 0.030" over 350 on nitrous, with a TH425 transaxle.
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
oh, and as for pats timeslip, I could of picked up a timeslip at the track last night and claimed it as my own. no video, no go baby. I will have this fully documented with videos and such. 10.30? Maybe. He went 127 mph? Ive already trapped 124 with a tranny that was about to blow. I might be able to put 133 in the quarter. With my new turbo, it going to spool with the sickness.
Btw I now have a T66 .70 a/r, with a .68a/r T4 turbine. I also have a vacuum pump that pulls 28" hg on the brake booster when the brake pedal is depressed. this will allow me to make boost on the line without rolling through the brakes. Good times.
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sorry mackdonalds, fiero is defined as a mid engine sports car. I think you missed that part of the conversation. Oh yeah, and I already said I was going to be the fastest mid engine fiero. You must of missed that too. I dont think the engine is mounted mid on that dragster.
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06:26 PM
tampalinc Member
Posts: 774 From: Columbia, MO Registered: May 2001
I wouldnt travel that far unless there was big money/prizes/sponsorship opportunities. Ill tell you what though, one of the best tracks in the country is in Topeka (heartland park), and its centrally located in the US. The reason I wont travel all over hell, well 2 reasons, first off, Im poor. #2, cant take time off work to travel, well, because im poor. haha.
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tampalinc Member
Posts: 774 From: Columbia, MO Registered: May 2001
A one mile run instead of a ¼ mile wouldn’t be worth it? It would really separate the men from the boys.
So what is the trick to getting a good launch on drag radials without destroying the trans and axles? Spending $3500-5500 on a built trans is hard to justify.
sorry mackdonalds, fiero is defined as a mid engine sports car. I think you missed that part of the conversation. Oh yeah, and I already said I was going to be the fastest mid engine fiero. You must of missed that too. I dont think the engine is mounted mid on that dragster.
its a good thing wikipedia isnt the authority on definitions or quite a few of us would be screwed. you do know it is written and edited by the general public, right? so if i wanted to add something i could; such as changing the definition of what a fiero is....
and according to the title of the thread that you have started here, you did claim to have the "worlds fastest 1/4 mile fiero." nowhere in that title did you state "mid engine." it wasnt until your fourth post that you claimed "mid engine."
and just so you know, im not here to be demeaning. i was at wheatstock when you pulled your all night headgasket replacing that oslo showed pics of, and im with him in that you are very, very good at what you do. im just here to correct the terms and find out exactly what you claim your fiero will be fastest in. someone claiming the fastest fiero ever is a lot bigger than the fastest mid engined fiero (but im not saying this isnt a feat as well!). doing it on street tires without slicks is all the more impressive, driving it to and from the track gains you more respect, and having built it yourself is what it is all about. i look forward to seeing what it turns out running and seeing the vids of it.
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Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
Thats what I love about this Forum. Some once can post something like X did and he can jsut sit back and enjoy all the comments made. Doesnt even have to say much and ppl are all fired up over a comment. The funny thing is some in this thread have bone stock Fieros but always wanna jump in and talk about things that they have only read about. No first hand experiance what so ever, it jsut kills me. Keep the **** talking going X and watch the hate grow.
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Jun 5th, 2006
Rare87GT Member
Posts: 5068 From: Wichita, KS USA Registered: Oct 2001
Thats what I love about this Forum. Some once can post something like X did and he can jsut sit back and enjoy all the comments made. Doesnt even have to say much and ppl are all fired up over a comment. The funny thing is some in this thread have bone stock Fieros but always wanna jump in and talk about things that they have only read about. No first hand experiance what so ever, it jsut kills me. Keep the **** talking going X and watch the hate grow.
Damn it disgusts me to agree with you but after reading this thread you are right.
Fiero X I hope you do well and I'm looking forward to seeing if you make it.
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Im not trying to breed any hate. I think its all in good fun. I like getting a little trash started before something big happens. Just look back to my old posts from the 01 era. People doubted I would ever go 12's. I said from day one that I was building a V8 killer, and shooting to make the worlds fastest fiero. Everybody laughed. Then I started going high 12's, then mid 12's, then low 12's. Then people started to backpedal. Next thing you know, my car is going mid 11's, and Im near the top of the 1/4 mile list, and the fastest V6 fiero in the country. Its all for fun ya know. Id take all of you for a ride in my car if I could (well except for Formula88 cause Ill say it straight up, your a douche)
You can't claim that you currently have the fastest V6 in the country because you have no idea if that is true or not. You may have the fastest on on the forums on which you post but that is as far as you can take it. There are lots of Fiero owners who don't post on this forum or RFT.
How do you get into your car with a head that huge?
Sure, you have done some great things with your car but keep it in it's proper perspective.
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darkhorizon Member
Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
I dont see why 9's are not possible in a fiero, as the grandprix guys have a few FWD grandprix running very very high 9.9's (9.98 i think). So after doing some simple math stuff, asuming you can get some of the hookup problems fixed, and maybe some weight loss action going on, then a 9 is possible with a 550hp motor.
I would look into saving up for the ZZP trans, as they sell the same thing they made the 9 second grand prix's. If you are a bit more do it yourself, then I would look into doing a gear ratio chain, which eliminates the anti noise double chain that streches over time, and causes some insane forces on your input shaft. For the most part, if you have your trans setup right with a quality shift kit, the weekender GP guys can daily drive their low 12 second cars and still have a very reliable race trans. A nice rule of thumb to go by in the L67 world is "put as much into your trans as you put into your motor". That goes more for me, but basicly you put a super huge turbo on, so that just about says you should put a super huge trans in I guess.
but honestly, if you think there is anything left in that trans, look into doing the gear change/chain upgrade soon, hell it wil transfer over into a race built trans anyway.
------------------ Check out my 3800 swap thread and lend your advice!
okay fieroX I cant wait to see some videos and times... I've been a fan from the 12 seconds and lower! lol btw I'm with fieroX when he says a Fiero isnt one, once the engine is moved in the front. I stand by it 100%. Ken
I really don't understand why some people are getting all worked up about what he said. why can't people just read it and if they dont like what they read just push the back button instead of starting a flame war. or you could at least wait the two weeks to see if he does it and then if he doesnt, trash talk back, to me it seems like he was having some harmless fun and some of yall took what he said in a very harsh way, i hope he does do it because i would like to see a fiero that badass and also to prove some naysayers wrong bc who likes naysayers commenting on their goals set forth. What's the difference from what he said and if i said imma be the best doctor in the country when im done with med school. are yall still gonne be like no you arent, thats just harsh but whatever yall have fun being asses to a mans goal he set for himself.
Welcome to the forum, Austin, where someone can start a thread and a bunch of others will talk **** with nothing to back themselves up. It's a big ol' world out there full of many different people. Some just cant stand that fact and they let all of us know just how narrow and small their world really is. It's funny how that works.
A little history. Ryan is a go-getter. He also loves to let people know what he's about to do. Back in the day, his posts would become a V6 vs V8 flamefest. Things have gotten kinda quiet over in that camp and they no longer populate his threads. Theres a reason for that. Ryan, all too happy to 'stir things up' just before an event, also came back armed with video and timeslip and for the most part, accomplished at or near where he had set his goal. If for some reason he couldnt meet his goal, he shared with us the reasons why. There are those who took that opportunity to again show us just how shallow their world is and flamed Ryan and his efforts, but he wasnt going to let that bring him down.
Seeing a better opporunity to make the V6 stronger, he changed the induction system to turbo and once again raised the bar. The downside of this is the weakest link in the chain becomes apparent and he had a string of bad luck with the transmission. Again, there were some that took this and turned it back on him in his posts when he was simply attempting to share with us what went wrong and what he intended to do to rectify the situation. This is where the 'scattered parts' and 'towed home' remarks come from. Funny how these remarks come from those with nothing to show for themselves.
During Ryans 'downtime', Don Kraus managed to raise the bar himself so now it's between these two gentlemen who both have something new up their sleeves for this coming season. It'll be a blast to watch this unfold.
Since the beginning, Ryan has had one stipulation with his car... that being that its to be kept in 'daily driver' condition. Anyone that has followed his history knows this without having to be reminded of that fact. All references to longitudinal mid-engine setups and purpose-built Fieros are null and void unless it can be proven that they carry a Fiero VIN tag and are daily drivers. Don and Ryan meet the daily driver requirements and still hold some of the fastest times in the list. Ryan is a bit more vocal about it... so be it.
As to the V6 vs V8 topic, I own one of each. I'll be watching the 3800SC vs 3800T shootout very closely. That should tell you where my preference lies.
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Welcome to the forum, Austin, where someone can start a thread and a bunch of others will talk **** with nothing to back themselves up. It's a big ol' world out there full of many different people. Some just cant stand that fact and they let all of us know just how narrow and small their world really is. It's funny how that works.
A little history. Ryan is a go-getter. He also loves to let people know what he's about to do. Back in the day, his posts would become a V6 vs V8 flamefest. Things have gotten kinda quiet over in that camp and they no longer populate his threads. Theres a reason for that. Ryan, all too happy to 'stir things up' just before an event, also came back armed with video and timeslip and for the most part, accomplished at or near where he had set his goal. If for some reason he couldnt meet his goal, he shared with us the reasons why. There are those who took that opportunity to again show us just how shallow their world is and flamed Ryan and his efforts, but he wasnt going to let that bring him down.
Seeing a better opporunity to make the V6 stronger, he changed the induction system to turbo and once again raised the bar. The downside of this is the weakest link in the chain becomes apparent and he had a string of bad luck with the transmission. Again, there were some that took this and turned it back on him in his posts when he was simply attempting to share with us what went wrong and what he intended to do to rectify the situation. This is where the 'scattered parts' and 'towed home' remarks come from. Funny how these remarks come from those with nothing to show for themselves.
During Ryans 'downtime', Don Kraus managed to raise the bar himself so now it's between these two gentlemen who both have something new up their sleeves for this coming season. It'll be a blast to watch this unfold.
Since the beginning, Ryan has had one stipulation with his car... that being that its to be kept in 'daily driver' condition. Anyone that has followed his history knows this without having to be reminded of that fact. All references to longitudinal mid-engine setups and purpose-built Fieros are null and void unless it can be proven that they carry a Fiero VIN tag and are daily drivers. Don and Ryan meet the daily driver requirements and still hold some of the fastest times in the list. Ryan is a bit more vocal about it... so be it.
As to the V6 vs V8 topic, I own one of each. I'll be watching the 3800SC vs 3800T shootout very closely. That should tell you where my preference lies.
Very well said. Nobody on this forum could of explained it better. :applause:
Since the beginning, Ryan has had one stipulation with his car... that being that its to be kept in 'daily driver' condition. Anyone that has followed his history knows this without having to be reminded of that fact. All references to longitudinal mid-engine setups and purpose-built Fieros are null and void unless it can be proven that they carry a Fiero VIN tag and are daily drivers. Don and Ryan meet the daily driver requirements and still hold some of the fastest times in the list.
Okay I don't disagree with anything you said and I wish Ryan all the luck in the world, but some things here need clarification.
His opening statement was "World's Fastest 1/4 mile Fiero" Period. Then you go on to say excluding purpose built Fieros. Define purpose built Fiero? isn't building up a turbo charged 3800 to be the fasted quarter mile Fiero purpose built?
Daily Driver? Define what is a daily driver? Is it the level of modification? Not really, an alcohol funny car could be driven every day, does that make it a daily driver? I assume you mean street legal running on DOT tires.
Transverse Mid-engine? This list goes on and on...
Perhaps the title of this thread should be:
"Fastest 1/4 mile Fiero, excluding purpose built, tubbed on slicks, tube-framed, front engined, longitudinal mounted engines, big blocks with blowers sticking over the roof, not available in all areas, results may vary, void where prohibited by law"
Originally posted by jscott1: "Fastest 1/4 mile Fiero, excluding purpose built, tubbed on slicks, tube-framed, front engined, longitudinal mounted engines, big blocks with blowers sticking over the roof, not available in all areas, results may vary, void where prohibited by law"
many would argue that common sense should exclude the majority of that from every having to be stated... but then again these days whats reffered to as "common sense" is rather more like "extra special sense"
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
The engine started life as an L67, but now has L32 forged rods, diamond forged pistons, custom ground cam, ported L67 heads, custom exhaust, etc. just check out my website. www.fieroX.com I run 21 psi of intercooled boost.
Ok, now im going to revise my statement.
2 more weeks and I will have the worlds fastest 1/4 mile STREET LEGAL Fiero in existance.
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002