Knock off your childish behavior, What FieroX is doing is something to be proud of. and he is making progress towards his goal and not giving up. Man didnt walk on the moon the first time they tried but it still happend. and most of us beleave that he will make it happen soon. no one is laughing with you so either get your act together or leave this mature forum to rot with the rest of the troll's.
Ryan has made some remarkable accomplishments, and I hope he does reach his goals. Really, I do. BUT, if he's going to strut around like the c*** of the walk and talk so much trash before he does what he's setting out to do, you better believe I'm going to point and laugh at every one of his failures.
Imagine the crowd if Babe Ruth had pointed to the outfield where he was going to hit the ball and then struck out. Ryan ain't no Babe Ruth, but he's got an ego bigger than Barry Bonds.
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fierogt3800 Member
Posts: 1410 From: Keokuk, Iowa Registered: Feb 2006
Ryan has made some remarkable accomplishments, and I hope he does reach his goals. Really, I do. BUT, if he's going to strut around like the c*** of the walk and talk so much trash before he does what he's setting out to do, you better believe I'm going to point and laugh at every one of his failures.
Imagine the crowd if Babe Ruth had pointed to the outfield where he was going to hit the ball and then struck out. Ryan ain't no Babe Ruth, but he's got an ego bigger than Barry Bonds.
well wait till he fails horibly and gives up. if you think its going to happen. then give him hell. But if he does set a record then it will say alot for the progression of the fiero side of the car hobby. I was in a corvair club a couple a years ago and gave up on them becuase they spent more time arguing over stupid things and having a bad attutde then they did trying to promote interest in the hobby. What im seeing is someone who is motivated and has the confidence to reach his goal, and he has not failed yet so i see no reason to bust his bubble. and im see proof of progress, rather then someone is is just stirring up a excuse for attention....
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cooguyfish Member
Posts: 2658 From: Hamilton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Originally posted by fierogt3800: well wait till he fails horibly and gives up. if you think its going to happen. then give him hell. But if he does set a record then it will say alot for the progression of the fiero side of the car hobby. I was in a corvair club a couple a years ago and gave up on them becuase they spent more time arguing over stupid things and having a bad attutde then they did trying to promote interest in the hobby. What im seeing is someone who is motivated and has the confidence to reach his goal, and he has not failed yet so i see no reason to bust his bubble. and im see proof of progress, rather then someone is is just stirring up a excuse for attention....
Alright, I have to get in on this.
Heres my short version;
I don't dislike X, but I don't like him either, because of his massive ego on the forum.
He has talked more crap over the last few years than any other members you can think of (maybe even several combined).
He's been saying the tens are coming, the tens are coming for two or so years. EVERY DAMN TIME he starts **** like this thread, and EVERY DAMN TIME has some reason or excuse that it didn't happen.
Then he used to openly attack ANYONE that had a V8, maybe he was just poking fun and most took it the wrong way, but I've seen it many times.
He used to start (or at least be real damn clost to starting) a TON of flame threads in the V6 vs. V8 world. Like holy crap batman a lot of flame wars.
He's been quiet for a few months maybe even close to a year. Mostly because of tranny problems. To cut him some slack, yes, he has a fast car. Sure, he's put a lot of work into it, a lot of which was done while just delivering pizza's a few years back to afford to put it together. Does he deserve some respect for his accomplishments, ABSOLUTELY.
but here's the problem, his attitude and disrespect towards anyone else that does things differently then himself destroys every good thing he has ever done. Do some searching for the last two years and you'll see what I'm talking about. I remember the days where threads like this one were completely the other way around, one or two people defending X, and everyone else tearing him down like Formula88, because they knew how he was, how he acted, and how arrogant he is on the forum (in real life he might be a swell guy, but hey, this is the internet and that's all I know of him).
Now I see it the other way around with 20 people that have been here for less than 1 year that DON'T know how he used to be defending him.
In closing, may X have changed? Possible, but judging from this thread and a few others I've seen recently, he's still the same arrogant jerk that a lot of people didn't like 2 years ago.
Anyways, I'd like nothing better than to see what happens when he gets the car fixed, I would like to see it run tens. O, on a another side note, I know for a fact this isn't the first thread he's title like this, and it was over a year ago. So many empty promise's have been made. I just take what he says with a grain of salt.
- cooguyfish Then he used to openly attack ANYONE that had a V8, maybe he was just poking fun and most took it the wrong way, but I've seen it many times.
(fierogt3800)
well ive noticed that he is standing up for the v6 overe the v8. but most of us V8 guys are the same way about our motors. personaly ive owned a 3800 powered fiero and think it was the most reliable motor ive ever had in a car and i know from beating on mine that they are durable. and even my N/A 3800 was a trill to accelerate with. But ive always been partal to V8's becuase of sound more then anything. but fierox has viewed my biuld thread many times and has not had anything negetive to say about it. and i dropped his favorite motor out for one! id say thats pretty respectful..
-(cooguyfish)
Now I see it the other way around with 20 people that have been here for less than 1 year that DON'T know how he used to be defending him.
-(3800fierogt) I know what you mean about new guys getting their nose where it dont belong.. but just becuase ive only been a member of this forum since febuary dont mean i must be a newbie.. Ive been following this forum since 2002 when i bought my first fiero. Ive owned nine fieros. and ive maintained my own fieros since 2003 and learned with proper instruction from forum members mypontiac2, rroberts, and mim102, Im also a active member of Heartland fiero's, and NIFE and have been since 03'. Im just tring to say im not new to the hobby or to the forum as i appear... BUt i cant say ive been following fierox too closely untill i stumbled on to his website over the summer. so what was said and done before that is something i havent followed.. so i may have missed some claims..
but no matter what im still going to be suportive untill and if im given a reason not to be...
Nice work X. Too bad you didn't get your time...yet.
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Not sure what kind of converter it is, but I bought it about 2 years ago. It only has about 1000 miles on it, if that. What a piece of crap. Anybody hear anything good about the yank converters? Or is it just best to go with the ZZP?
That was about the time the issue was around with the Power Torque stalls that Ontense was selling. Havent heard anything bad about ZZP stalls or anything period about Yank. I would say go with ZZP being they are so easy to deal with.
A few years ago, I was looking at TCs for my 700R4 (Formula Firebird). Yank seemed to be getting very good reviews from the F-body groups at the time. I ended up with a Precision Industries Vigalante. Excellent product and free recalibration. I don't know if they make parts for the FWD trannies, though.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I'll make my first post ever on FieroX. I've tried to stay out of his threads because I know how they turn out.
FieroX has a fast car. But his crappy attitude and the way he talks down to and attacks others who do things differently from him tears down anything he might accomplish in my eyes. And the fact is, that once again, he didn't do what he said he was going to do. Nothing wrong with that in itself. It is his attitude the rest of the time that opens him up to the jabs. He either needs to take the heat or get out of the kitchen. Sorta the same thing as a pretty girl with a hot body but a crappy attitude. You might take her for a spin or two but eventually the attitude wins out and you see how much of a nothing she is.
I wish FieroX all the best luck in attaining his goals with his car... But more importantly I wish him luck in growing up and realizing that if he would quit all his arrogance and be a nice person that more people would celebrate him when and if he ever does make his goal. But for now, Don still has the fastest Fiero. ------------------ ---UNDER CONSTRUCTION---
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I've been around and in the fiero scene for about 10 years now - and my opinion on X is that he IS a nice guy.. he just doesn't put up with people giving him a 'tude, and responds in the same manner he is treated.
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Will Member
Posts: 14249 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
Originally posted by fieroX:I found a 1 way valve that goes into the power brake booster that has 3 vacuum ports on it. I plugged one of them, and one source comes from the engine vacuum, and one from a pump that turns on when I touch the brake pedal. The pump supplies 20"hg of vacuum.
Did you start a thread on it? I'm curious about suppliers & part numbers...
posted 05-29-2005 03:11 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just dont get this thing. Ive now rebuilt the transmission 3 times in 1000 miles. I definitely know what im doing inside a 4t60e. Oh well. I dont even care anymore. This thing is not fun anymore. Its just become a big hassle and has put me in so much debt that its nearly impossible to avoid bankruptcy. I just want to make my 10 second pass and move on with my life. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I didn’t care about his record till I read this. He was probably still working at the pizza place and running up charge cards. I still don’t care I just hope he pays his own way to 10 seconds and not everyone else that has been responsible and built a car with out going bankrupt. I hope he does make it, I hope he finds a job working on hot cars and is able to focus his talent and grows out of the attitude. And I hope he does it on his own dime.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I've been around and in the fiero scene for about 10 years now - and my opinion on X is that he IS a nice guy.. he just doesn't put up with people giving him a 'tude, and responds in the same manner he is treated.
Pay attention to who starts it. Ryan loves to talk trash. He's admitted as much. He started this thread with the sole intent to talk trash.
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Just wanted to let everyone know, and get some shlt talking started. Just for fun ya know.
Apparently he doesn't like it when the trash comes back. That's not his idea of fun. He wants to be the one to talk smack and everyone else should kiss his arse and call it ice cream. Well, too bad. If he stops acting like an arrogant jerk, he won't have to deal with other people's attitudes as much.
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Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I've been around and in the fiero scene for about 10 years now - and my opinion on X is that he IS a nice guy.. he just doesn't put up with people giving him a 'tude, and responds in the same manner he is treated.
I'm sure he is a 'nice guy' in real life. Most are. But anyone who gets abusive with people and calls names when he is disagreed with doesn't qualify as a 'forum nice guy' in my opinion. I also don't call someone a nice guy if every time someone shows up as a bit of a challenge the response is 'oh yeah? where's your slip to prove it? I could have picked up a slip off the ground at the track too!"
Maybe he is a nice guy in real life. Maybe he does have a fast car... But not the fastest. And even if he did there is no need for the arrogance. As always, there are some people who get a thrill from that kind of arrogance. Personally, I'd just rather be around polite people who don't feel the need to try to be above anyone else, regardless of how fast they think their car is, how much money they think they have, etc... And if that is how FieroX acted I would be more behind him in his quest. As it stands now, I'll pull for the nice guy in the Aldino.
Luckily, we all have a right to our opinions.
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DL10 Member
Posts: 2350 From: Bloomington IL Registered: Jun 2000
First let me say good luck with your goal of having the Worlds Fastest Fiero. You do know that even if you do obtain this goal there will come a time when someone will beat you.
I like to actually do something before I brag about it………..and a little bit of wisdom It’s easier to make 10 new friends by saying one nice thing about them. Than it is to make 1 new friend by saying 10 nice things about yourself.
First let me say good luck with your goal of having the Worlds Fastest Fiero. You do know that even if you do obtain this goal there will come a time when someone will beat you.
I like to actually do something before I brag about it………..and a little bit of wisdom It’s easier to make 10 new friends by saying one nice thing about them. Than it is to make 1 new friend by saying 10 nice things about yourself.
and its easier to make 10 enemies by disagreeing than 1 friend by sucking up
anyone could build a fast fiero, should they decide to invest the time, and more importantly the MONEY. so you will have it? well, cool if u do, but its just annoying how you go about sharing this info and are cocky about it, not "just overconfident". dude lol, i already run a mid-high 11 sec 1/4 mile and could go right ahead and make my fiero run low 10's if i SERIOUSLY wanted too, and probably for less headache and cost that you have done it for, but i simply choose not to.
though well, 1/4 mile is something not for everyone, as there are other forms of racing that are just as, if not more enjoyable so to each his own. not to mention, **** , given i know what i do now about our cars, racing and car setupsin general i wouldnt bother using a fiero to achieve a goal such as yours (but i understand it is the challenge ur lookin for that lays within it as such). shoulda made it easy and just done a turbo V8 (or even suprercharged V8), i woulda, given i also have a 3800 turbo and know the exact headaches u face with tuning it, maximizing power and having a tranny to hold it.
Originally posted by 3.8T: shoulda made it easy and just done a turbo V8 (or even suprercharged V8), i woulda, given i also have a 3800 turbo and know the exact headaches u face with tuning it, maximizing power and having a tranny to hold it.
hasn't almost every problem he's had been from the tranny though?
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Posts: 4540 From: Alexandria, VA Registered: Apr 2005
Originally posted by Kohburn: and its easier to make 10 enemies by disagreeing than 1 friend by sucking up
And this statement has not one thing to do with the subject. No one is telling him to suck up. People are just saying he should quit being arrogant, especially about things that he has not done. I am really really glad that he has such a fan in you. That is great and everybody deserves one. But your witty defenses of him still don't change the facts. And the facts are that he is always starting these threads saying he will do certain things and then never does. He is constantly bashing anyone who might also have a fast car and if they come close to doing what he says he will do (but never does), he insinuates that they are lying. And he basically just has a holier than thou attitude when in reality he has no reason to. I see that most people get it though. It's just too bad that if he ever does meet his goal, he will have pushed so many people away with his attitude that most people still won't like him.
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hasn't almost every problem he's had been from the tranny though?
And it really doesn't matter what almost every problem has been. If he were the slightest bit humble then people might be a bit more understanding. But when he constantly comes on saying IT WILL BE DONE and then it never is, then it looks bad, especially after the way he attacks other people and their cars. It really doesn't matter what part of the car breaks. The fact that it keeps on breaking means that the car is just not ready.
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And this statement has not one thing to do with the subject. No one is telling him to suck up. People are just saying he should quit being arrogant, especially about things that he has not done. I am really really glad that he has such a fan in you. That is great and everybody deserves one. But your witty defenses of him still don't change the facts. And the facts are that he is always starting these threads saying he will do certain things and then never does. He is constantly bashing anyone who might also have a fast car and if they come close to doing what he says he will do (but never does), he insinuates that they are lying. And he basically just has a holier than thou attitude when in reality he has no reason to. I see that most people get it though. It's just too bad that if he ever does meet his goal, he will have pushed so many people away with his attitude that most people still won't like him.
your reply has just as much to do with the topic as my reply to the previous person.. whats your point? I'd wager to say that all the fuss in here would be gone if people stuck to the topic.. its takes multiple people to have an argument.. he is not the only one to blaim for the way the thread has gone.
rather people could have simple said "oh really? what did you do? lets see it happen"
but no people start flaming away and yet the thread starter is the only person who gets blaimed for anything. 70% of the people posting in this thread need to grow up - i don't care if they are 50 years old, they still are lacking maturity.
And it really doesn't matter what almost every problem has been. If he were the slightest bit humble then people might be a bit more understanding. But when he constantly comes on saying IT WILL BE DONE and then it never is, then it looks bad, especially after the way he attacks other people and their cars. It really doesn't matter what part of the car breaks. The fact that it keeps on breaking means that the car is just not ready.
its relevant to what I replied to.. the commend of he should have done a turbo v8 since it would have been easier.. which is a false statement if all the work and money has been going to getting the tranny to support the power. so yes it does matter
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
Man, you guys get all worked up an I havent even posted on here in days. I guess you all dont realize that Im just messing around. Sorry fellas, but fieros arent life. I know, I know, i just shot down all your hopes and dreams with that one sentance, but its reality. Oh, and I havent attacked anyone on this forum in a long time. I have changed a bunch. The only person Ive called names is Formula88, because this guy can keep a grudge for 56 years and still start back with the same attitude. I dont care, I would walk up to Archie and give him a hug and a pat on the back. I like to have friends, I just talk a little crap online to get some hype going. My car is going to run 10's. And do so very soon.
3.8T, your car wont go low 10's. Ive been trying for a long time. High 11's are easy. cake. Ive been 11.70's on 14 psi of boost, with a 1.8 60'. Theres just something mystical about going faster than 11.50. Its like theres a barrier that the transmission cant be pushed through. besides the fact that it takes another 200 wheel hp to go from 11.50 to 10.50. Back in the day when my car ran 12.004, I drove it long haul on the power tour. Then drove it to canada to get it tuned. Raced it at Intense Drag Day 1, at national trail in columbus OH, then drove it home. Back then it was realiable and awesome. now its a freaking beast that sucks puppies, small children, and school busses full of nuns off the road. I just have a transmission thats suited for a nun.
Whats going to end up happening is this. Im going to get to the point where I give up on the 4t60e totally. I'll save up money, and end up buying a 65eHD from ZZP, and getting the PCS transmission controller, with paddle shifters. At that point in time its all over for the rest of the 1/4 mile list, I just dont have the $4000 to do that kind of conversion right now.
Just so all of you know, yes I used to deliver pizzas. who wouldnt when gas was $1.10 a gallon, and you made $15-18 an hour. At age 18? hell yeah! Yeah, but I havent done that for about 4 years, so you all can stop bringing that up. Thanks.
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Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Damn, Ryan. As much money as you put into the engine, stop throwing money at that 4t60e. You've got a monster engine and you're trying to use a transmission that you're patching together hoping it'll hold long enough to run the number? I think you'd spend less money, and aggrivation, in the long run waiting until you can afford the 65 and going with that.
You know, you may have changed, but all we see here is the same Ryan starting a thread to talk trash. Just like 4 years ago. If you want people to think you've changed, you're gonna have to show us.
You rail on people to show time slips or dyno graphs to back up their claims. Well, time to live by your own rules, boy.
You want to brag about 10s? Run the number then show us the proof. You want to have the fastest 1/4 mile Fiero in the world? Show us the proof. All the bragging in the world don't mean squat. and most importantly.... if you want people to think you've changed and just want to have some fun - SHOW US THE PROOF.
If you act like an arrogant prick, you will be treated as one.
One thing's for sure. You've definitely convinced me I'm never going to be interested in trying to run a fast quarter mile. Too much hassle and too many broken parts. I'd be much happier with reliable 12s that could be driven cross country than trying to break some record.
FYI, if you need to make some money to support your car, try selling some parts. I've seen the headers you've made and other pieces on your website. There has to be a market for those parts for a 3800 Fiero, given how popular that engine is now. High performance headers that don't require cutting out the trunk? People already pay top dollar for WCF or TOG headers - why not get some made for a Fiero that perform better?
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Posts: 1012 From: Waldorf, MD Registered: May 2004
All these people who are attacking X need to get the hell outta this thread. Theres no reason for your comments because of some grudge you have against him. Its time to grow up and let it go. Formula88 for one. You say all X has done is attack people. What have you been doing?? And where do you get off calling someone "boy"? Let it rest. Who cares if X stated he was going to run a 10 and didn't? Don't football players state they are going to win the Super Bowl the week before? But when they loose does everyone harp on it like you guys? GEEZ guys, he tried, it didn't happen. Have you been successful in everything you've done?
Oh and to qoute Formula88: "The interesting thing about flame threads is how many people continue to talk about something after the fact. I haven't posted in this thread since last night, but there's been numerous posts today about my behavior, motivation, knowledge, etc. I could proabaly not have posted again, and the reaction posts would continue for days.
But, yes, I over reacted and was out of line. Ryan, for that I apologize. You started this thread to stir crap up and I guess I bought into it. I don't care for your self importance and boastful postings, but that was no excuse to go full goose bozo.
I meant what I said about liking all kids of engine swaps and fast Fieros, but I guess your attitude rubbed me the wrong way. People have viewed me as trolling this thread, but from my viewpoint I was reponding to your trolls. In practice, I guess there really isn't a difference.
Normally, I don't edit out my posts, preferring to let what I've said stand, either for good or bad, but in this case, I'll remove my posts from this thread in an effort to quench the flames. " So now that X didn't run the 10, now you can come back in and pile it on??
X, get the damn 10 second slip so all these trolls will shut up!
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All these people who are attacking X need to get the hell outta this thread. Theres no reason for your comments because of some grudge you have against him.
Outside of the fact that the soul purpose of this thread is for people to talk trash (read the first post that X opened with), I'll agree that I'm tired of seeing it pop up at the top of the front page every 10 minutes, because the kids drink too much dew and have to go at the pissing contest. If it at least included some semlbance of a useful amount of information, then maybe it wouldn't be so bad. But all it is at the moment is a bunch of "I know you are, but what am I?" BS.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I'm going to make one last post in this thread and then I'm going to let it go...
1) I don't have a grudge against anyone. As I said in my original post, I have never made any comments about FieroX one way or the other. But I have sat quietly for the past few years and watched him be a jerk to people just because he needed to feel superior.
2) At 41, I am sure I don't qualify as a kid. I am old enough to be the father of most of the people on this forum. And if not my years, at least the fact that I come from another generation where being nice was more expected, these are the reasons I spoke up. I also didn't take up for Formula88 in this thread since I don't know the history between him and FieroX. What I do know is that nothing he said in his statements was false yet he was being crucified for it.
Ahhh... I remember the days when we had people here who thought it was their sole purpose to keep off the forum. These people attacked everyone who they felt made false claims. Amazingly they never said anything to FieroX even though at every attempt something happens so he doesn't do what he so agressively said he was going to do. I guess it all depends on what crowds you run in and those people weren't really trying to stop . They were just picking on people they didn't like.
Now FieroX's reply to all of this was well thought out and was probably the best post I have ever seen him make (including the bait that started this thread). I honestly do hope he has changed and grown up a little as he says. From the beginnings of this thread it doesn't appear so but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt... Not that he cares what I think at all... I simply made a suggestion earlier that his victory would be sweeter if he didn't alienate all of the people he was trying so hard to impress...
"And that is all I've got to say about that." - {Gump voice}
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Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
Ryan, I hope to see you do this just for the bragging rights. 10 second 1/4 mile is quick for any car. BTW Ryan and Amir were the first two Fiero owners that I met and it was at the FOCOA Osage Beach get together. They were the only ones nice enough to talk to non-forum members(at the time) and tell my stepson and I about Pennocks. I guess opinions are opinions.
Here is a thought: If everyone on the forum gave Ryan $0.25 he would be able to get the tranny. Heck I would contribute a $1.00 or more just to see him do it. The cause, I beleive, is good enough. I will never have a Fiero that fast but it would be great to be able to tell my friends about a 10 second Fiero that is still mid-engine. There is my opinion. and $0.02 worth. dustin
So now that X didn't run the 10, now you can come back in and pile it on??
Why not? Have you seen any threads by V8 owners and how so many people, yourself included, come out of the woodwork to challenge every single thing mentioned? What goes around comes around.
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Originally posted by SOULCRUSHER: Who cares if X stated he was going to run a 10 and didn't?
You remember that next time there's a thread with anyone else who's being attacked for no time slips. No dyno slips. No independantly certified video proof.
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Originally posted by SOULCRUSHER: Your not seriously considering this a kill?
Where was your "who cares" attitude when you posted this? You come out and defend everyone who just wants to have some fun with their car and maybe then I'll think you mean what you say.
The burden of proof seems to be different depending on if someone is in your good graces or not. So tell me, is it all about having fun with our hobby and not some big deal if you don't document everything or does that only apply to the people you like?
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SOULCRUSHER Member
Posts: 1012 From: Waldorf, MD Registered: May 2004
The only time I have ever asked for documentation is if something doesn't sound right. I have almost always taken people fortheir word in terms of 1/4 mile times. That comment abourt Cali Kid was just that. Nothing more. You on the other hand continue to post over and over again What are you talking about "wanting documentation"? Show me where I stated that I needed proof as in a timeslip or whatever. I never question someone unless it doesn't make sense. I race alot, so I know if a motor is or isn't capable of turning a certain number. So tell me, where are your expertise in this threads subject???
What exactly are you challenging? That X DIDN'T run a 10??? We all know that. Damn X, maybe you need to post a time slip to prove that.
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SOULCRUSHER Member
Posts: 1012 From: Waldorf, MD Registered: May 2004
X, have you ever made a set of headers that exited from the stock GTP location? I see ZZP has a new "powerlog" exhaust manifold and was wondering if you thing its worth trying or not. Here's the link: http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=208 Looks similar to your turbo manifolds you made awhile back, maybe your still using them?
X, have you ever made a set of headers that exited from the stock GTP location? I see ZZP has a new "powerlog" exhaust manifold and was wondering if you thing its worth trying or not. Here's the link: http://www.zzperformance.com/grand_prix/products1.php?id=208 Looks similar to your turbo manifolds you made awhile back, maybe your still using them?
There is a Thread on CGP about the new Power Log, actually several Threads. One of them is where ZZP dynoed it, dont think it did that well. Can read up on it over there.
Every time I try to come back to this forum I see more threads like this. If you dont like his posts then just dont post. You say X is arogant? Do you really think that those of us interested in his car really care what u think? Are you that special?
What gives you the right to go **** in other peoples threads? Comments like this are the reason people keep leaving this forum. Its like watching a reality tv show, but with no hot chicks.
We are all here because of one thing, our love for fieros. If we could cut out all this unneeded drama this forum would be a much better place. Oh, and the threads would be quite a bit smaller too.
Where was your "who cares" attitude when you posted this? You come out and defend everyone who just wants to have some fun with their car and maybe then I'll think you mean what you say.
So tell me, is it all about having fun with our hobby and not some big deal if you don't document everything or does that only apply to the people you like? [/QUOTE]
You are the biggest little girl I've ever heard of. ........ Grow up. yes I said grow up and now your going to start bashing that... who cares...? lol I'm trying to think of the last you've said that actually didn't have some smart ass comment included....
LOL but heck, you drive a Fiero so that makes everything better This is exactly why all the trash went down last December; between you, me and Verhalen; because you like to cry, he liked to brag about the car that was winning him his cut, and I liked to see what the Fiero had to offer. Until you actually grow up and wean yourself from the regret of being borne, and being borne with the rest of us idiots for that matter, your simply just going to make enemies. Count me in as one.
People please remember this thread is exactly why young guys like me don’t drive the Fiero…. Because they remember that this car is for old men like most of you who either brag about the Fiero for being stock, or whine about people remoding them like Fiero 5.
You’re all killing the car, because when you die, the car dies with your generation.
Fiero X has the right Idea, and I don’t give a Rat’s A$$ about what the rest of you think…. Neither does he and that’s the right attitude, ignore the pessimistic grandmothers like Formula 88
“But when he constantly comes on saying IT WILL BE DONE and then it never is, then it looks bad, especially after the way he attacks other people and their cars.”
Right! There you go, we’ll all not try at all, and we’ll all be cool like you………
To bad i sold a set of Buick stage 2 aluminum heads that came off nascar V6 bush car they had nice port work on the bush V6 they mad 500 Hp no turbo and i sold them for $300 that was a year agoe they would have been nice on your engine
"The 1984 Fieros were usually not equipped with a temperature gauge, though they should be considered essential instrumentation in any car, let alone a liquid-cooled mid or rear-engined car like the Fiero"
Oh btw I am buiding a V6 fiero turbocharged that will be about 600 HP check it out https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/071371.html my V6 is chevy bassed and will be 289 inches i hope you reach your goal and become fastest i just hope mine dont break the getrag right off
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Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
that is a lot of power for a getrag to handle. we blew one in half with 260 hp. I wish you the best. You might look into a 6 speed from a G6, from what I hear, they are a lot stronger than the getrags. Just a lot more expensive.
Archie has a kit to swap in the G6 6-speed. It's the same bolt pattern as the Getrag. Other than the cost of the kit to swap the tranny, the transmission itself isn't too expensive - for a new transmission. I believe Archie's kit is a little over $4000, but that includes a NEW (not rebuilt) transmission, clutch, pressure plate, etc. Everything necessary - even axles. You'd need to contact Archie to get up to date pricing, etc.
Another option is to check with Loyde at FastFieros. His transaxle of choice is the 5-speed used on the Ecotech SC. He believes it's stronger than the 6-speed, but it does require an adapter plate since it's a different bolt pattern.
Those are the two strongest options I know of for transverse manual transmissions. Also consider having any transmission you use cryo treated. California Kid and Tina (and a few others, I believe) have had good experiences with it.
If you want an automatic, check with Don about the transmission in his Aldino. IIRC, he currently has the fastest (10 sec.) quarter mile V6 Fiero and I don't believe he's had any major parts breakage problems. (at least I've not read about them)
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off the forum. These people attacked everyone who they felt made false claims. Amazingly they never said anything to FieroX even though at every attempt something happens so he doesn't do what he so agressively said he was going to do. I guess it all depends on what crowds you run in and those people weren't really trying to stop 
This is exactly why all the trash went down last December; between you, me and Verhalen; because you like to cry, he liked to brag about the car that was winning him his cut, and I liked to see what the Fiero had to offer. Until you actually grow up and wean yourself from the regret of being borne, and being borne with the rest of us idiots for that matter, your simply just going to make enemies. Count me in as one. 
