I am in need of new tires for my car and have a line on some BFGoodrich Touring T/A tires but don't know if their worth a dang. Has anybody used them that can give me a first hand review. I'm going to check the tire sites but value an opinion given by an actual Fiero owner.

Thanks
Daniel

I have BFG Radial T/A's - very simelar
they are decent tires. very good dry traction, decent wet traction
there are a few tires with better dry traction, but I dont think there are any "performance" tires with better wet traction.

touring T/A's are a really good tire as far as wear and wet traction but if you are looking for something a bit more "performance" oriented i would go for BF goodrich g-force T/A KDWS. not sure if they are available in your rims size (i don't have factory rims on my car) but it's and all-season version of the G-force T/A. i have them on my grand am and so far am quite pleased. the fiero uses the same size tires as the grand am so when it comes time to replace the fiero's rubber i will be going with these tires. i can't tell you how they are in the winter sice i haven't had them that long.

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1986 Fiero GT (under construction...donate today)
2001 Grand Am GT (new addition)
1998 Dodge Neon R/T (who can forget that P.O.S.)

I have the Radial T/A's and they get great traction in all types of weather, can't even do a donut in them because they get to much grip lol. If your going for preformance I would not go with these tires. I swap them out with some Pirelli drag tires in the back anytime I take it to the track, wish you were closer I could get you a really good deal on some new tires or rims

The Touring T/A is a sport touring tire, not really a performance tire. It was standard equipment on my Grand Am. An ok tire that lasts pretty good, but nothing exceptional. I've got Radial T/As on my Grand Am now and they seem pretty similar, but they're a little louder and they were cheaper.

If you want a performance tire, get the Traction T/A. I've got those on my Formula and they are much higher performance than either the Radial T/A or the Touring T/A.

I run Traction T/A's on my formula. I have broken the back end loose on dry pavement once since installing them. a hard 90 degree left turn at 40+ mph. I had to cut it late to avoid a cement truck that was creeping into the intersection. I hit the corner very hot, slammed the break, and cranked the wheel. The rear end slid out maybe 6 inches. I got back on the gas and the rear end was glued down. This is on a 3.4l auto with a fresh suspention setup. They have also given me pretty good performance through snow and ice. Nothing amazing, but the performance was solid. I definately recommend these tires as a solid year round performance tire.

-Rick

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: The Touring T/A is a sport touring tire, not really a performance tire. It was standard equipment on my Grand Am. An ok tire that lasts pretty good, but nothing exceptional. I've got Radial T/As on my Grand Am now and they seem pretty similar, but they're a little louder and they were cheaper. If you want a performance tire, get the Traction T/A. I've got those on my Formula and they are much higher performance than either the Radial T/A or the Touring T/A.

I have Radial T/A's on the back and Federal 595's on the front. They seem to work well, however, my next tires will likely be a little stickier. BTW they don't break loose too easily, but I have gotten them loose.

Arn

I have used many T/A radials but not on a Fiero. I run BF Goodrich Comp T/As on my Fiero.

BFGoodrich does NOT make the Touring T/A anymore. They have been replaced by the Traction T/A.

From BFG's website:
"Beginning in October, the Traction T/A will replace the Comp T/AVR4, Comp T/AHR4, Touring T/AVR4, Touring T/AHR4, Touring T/ATR4 and Touring T/ASR4. In addition, the new tire will replace the Control T/AM80 line beginning in 2004.

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/bfgapp/news/press_release/10012003A.jsp

I use the Traction T/A's on both of my daily drivers. To say the tires are not a "Performance" tire is wrong.
We have a set on a 2002 Montana minivan and a set on our 2002 BMW 325Xi. The BFG's are a much better tire than the Michelin Pilots that originally came on the BMW. The ride is better and traction in all conditions is greatly improved. We have had the tires on each vehicle for over a year now so they have been driven in summer and winter including snow up to 6" deep. Never been stuck and never been disappointed with the traction.
In snow and rain they handle almost as well as they do dry. They are not in the ultra-performance range of like the G-Force T/A's, But on a daily driven car they are an excellent choice for all-weather performance tire.


I have BFG G-Force KDW tires on my Fiero But it is a summer only car and 99% of the time it won't see rain. If I had a daily driven Fiero it to would have the Traction T/A's on it.

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I had T/A's on my car and got good wear and traction. The down side that I had was they like to pick up rocks ( pea gravel) and throw them against the car.

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Also, remember, there are 3 versions of the Traction T/A.
The "T" rated Traction T/A is the "touring" tire.
The "H" and "V" rated ones are the performance tires. Judging from tests on Tire Rack, there is a measureable difference in performance between each of the three.

I originally had Eagle GT+4's on my wife's Grand Prix. I liked the tires, and got about 50,000 miles out of them, so when it was time for new tires, I wanted another set. But, Goodyear had quit making them in the size needed for the car, I went shopping. I was told the BFG Touring TA's were comparable to the GT+4's, so I bought them.

They were an okay tire, but were nowhere near the tire the GT+4's were. Quick turning response was slower...they almost felt "squiggly" when you'd turn the wheel quickly. Wear was good, and ride noise was good initially, but after about 15,000 miles, they got noticeably louder. Dry traction was good, but wet and snow traction were just "okay". I knew I didn't want to buy another set of those when it came time to replace them.

So, I got a set of Traction TA's. A MUCH better tire, in my opinion. They seem to be much closer in performance to the original GT+4's than the Touring TA's ever were. Turning response is much better, and wet traction seems to be better, too. They are a bit noisy on serrated roadways, but other than that, I'm highly pleased with them, and am happy I didn't go with another set of Touring TA's.

The new tires that we bought for our Corolla were the Touring TA. They last a while, but I have no idea how they perform, as the Corolla is not a very ...Fiero-ish... car. My Fiero did come with a pair of these, but they're mixed around, and I've never tested them. They'll probably fall apart; they're pretty old. If I don't find any better ones, those are probably the ones that I'll go with too...

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Been running the BFG Traction T/A H ever since they came out - I love them. I will be buying these tires (in the stock sizes) forever if they keep making them. Best tire I've ever had on any car I've owned. Awesome wet traction as well as dry.

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1988 Red Fiero Formula Convertible
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Thanks for pointing that our Formula 88. Mine are the 'H' rated ones.

-Rick

quote Originally posted by Lilchief: I had T/A's on my car and got good wear and traction. The down side that I had was they like to pick up rocks ( pea gravel) and throw them against the car.

ya ya - the tread does grab EVERY little thing on the road & fling it! thank god for mudflaps, eh?!

Compare the reviews of the Goodrich tires vs Firestone Firehawk Indy's at http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=PAS

"Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 1.100% 8.4 8.3 8.4 8.4 9.0 8.5 7.5 6.7 6.6 8.6 8.5 8.5 6,568,888

Yokohama AVID S/T . . . . . . 2. 97% 8.6 8.3 8.2 8.4 8.8 8.4 6.9 6.4 6.2 8.6 8.6 7.9 5,506,219

Goodyear Eagle #1 NASCAR 3. 91% 8.6 6.9 7.1 8.2 8.6 8.4 6.8 6.6 5.8 8.0 7.6 7.7 1,893,299

Yokohama AVID T4 . . . . . . . 4. 90% 7.5 7.7 7.6 7.7 8.4 7.9 6.4 5.7 5.6 8.2 8.1 7.4 9,470,908

BFGoodrich Radial T/A . . . . . 5. 85% 7.5 6.8 6.7 7.5 8.2 7.7 5.9 5.3 4.9 7.8 7.7 7.4 11,682,411

Dunlop GT Qualifier T . . . . . . 6. 84% 7.2 6.8 6.9 7.8 8.3 8.0 5.3 4.8 4.3 7.7 7.8 7.6 3,344,856

Goodyear Eagle GT II . . . . . . 7. 83% 6.7 6.4 6.6 7.6 8.2 7.7 5.7 5.3 5.0 7.3 7.2 7.4 9,676,334

Info based on consumers completing The Tire Rack's online survey. "10" is the highest. See key below or read detailed descriptions of survey categories.

Tire Performance Ratings:
Superior 8.6-10
Excellent 6-8.5
Good 4.6-6.5
Fair 2.6-4.5
Unacceptable 0-2.5
Would buy again?
Definitely 8.6-10
Probably 6-8.5
Possibly 4.6-6.5
Probably Not 2.6-4.5
Definitely Not 0-2.5 "

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quote Originally posted by 30+mpg: Compare the reviews of the Goodrich tires vs Firestone Firehawk Indy's at http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=PAS

But we are talking about the "Traction T/A" not the regular T/A which is what was used in that survey.

You need to look at the "High Performance All-Season" survey not the "Performance All-Season" survey.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HPAS

As you can see Goodyear Eagles are half way down and Firestone is at the very bottom of the list. BFGoodrich is # 5.

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I had a set of those Yokohama's before the Traction T/A's. Those things were glued to the road when it was dry out. But as soon as the rain came out you could kiss your traction good bye! That and the tread life was really short on them. After two years of spirited daily driving, they were about racing slicks. They still held amazingly on dry pavement, but with the tread gone the would hydroplane over the smallest puddle.

-Rick

quote Oreif:But we are talking about the "Traction T/A" not the regular T/A which is what was used in that survey. You need to look at the "High Performance All-Season" survey not the "Performance All-Season" survey. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=HPAS As you can see Goodyear Eagles are half way down and Firestone is at the very bottom of the list. BFGoodrich is # 5.

So Firestone Firehawk GTA-03 are at the bottom of the high buck tire survey. None of the tires in that survey have the raised white lettering.

Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 are at the top of the moderate buck tire survey, plus they have the raised white lettering.

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