It looks like he has not done a lot to the nose just the air-damn and such. Then added what looks like an air-diffuser on the back.
With the new Aluminum Small Block Chevy's coming in sizes up to 454 cubic inches. Yes I said Small Block 454. You could probably use a forced induction system and get 900-1000hp out of it. Balance the hell out of it, so it would rev really well with the power in the high rpm range. I wonder just how much power a cryo treated 6spd would handle. If you did not hard launch it, just rolled on the power and did not open it up till 3000rpms in 6th. Hmm, just how fast could you go with a huge engine, a few body mods and keep it mid engine. It would not be the cheapest way to go fast, but I bet it would turn some heads. The biggest issue would be a trans that could handle that much power in top gear.
------------------ 85GT 5spd ,93 Eldorado 4.9 Dual O2 Custom Chip, Archie Clutch. Custom Exhaust. MSD Everything 245/50/16's Not Your Average 4.9 Capt Fiero Com --- My Over View Cadero Pics Yellow 88GT 5spd Stock.
IP: Logged
09:34 PM
mrfiero Member
Posts: 9002 From: Colorful Colorado Registered: Mar 99
It looks like he has not done a lot to the nose just the air-damn and such.
??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.
IP: Logged
10:02 PM
hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
Originally posted by mrfiero: ??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.
Well this is an old photo. It looks like the photo in the new magazine has a more GT like nose on it now.
As for the long nose it is one of the few ways they would keep this car on the ground. Things at Bonneville are a little different than most race cars. Yes they keep them low and powerful but it takes more than that as you approch 300 MPH.
First off many add weight to the cars to keep them down. Once they start rolling weight is not a penalty as in drag racing. Second the nose is long not only to give a place for the engine but to also help keep the nose on the salt and inprove handling at speed. Short wheel base is a problem at high speeds that is why most streamliners are so long.
Finally having the engine in back is not a help at these speeds. If anything it would just make it harder and more complicated to work on and to keep reliable with this kind of power. Besides the weigh on the nose will help it steer and keep the car planted.
If you have not seen these cars run on the salt before it is amazing as they lower drag and manage the air but work hard to keep the air out form under the car. It is common for them to spin and flip on the salt. The guy who went 300+ in a stock body Firebird had his car over 4000 pound to help keep it planted.
I once saw a RX7 take off like a kite once he spun it really wiped ou the car but the driver walked away.
This car is as much Fiero as many of the modified cars here. He is getting good press and is only helping out cars name. I would rather credit him as a Fiero vs some of the other I have seen that have done some cruel thing to our little car.
The 32 Ford fans don't dis the guys with the Modified Ford roadster on the salt. Most just copy their cars and street drive them. Thes were the original Hot Rods.
IP: Logged
10:35 PM
PFF
System Bot
Mar 8th, 2007
Capt Fiero Member
Posts: 7657 From: British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2000
Originally posted by mrfiero: ??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.
I said the nose, not the hood, not the fenders, just the nose. Yesh man lay off the coffee. I realize the front of the car has been stretched as well as the hood and the fenders. But it was amazing to me that it had an early bumper pad nose with a custom airdam on it.
------------------ 85GT 5spd ,93 Eldorado 4.9 Dual O2 Custom Chip, Archie Clutch. Custom Exhaust. MSD Everything 245/50/16's Not Your Average 4.9 Capt Fiero Com --- My Over View Cadero Pics Yellow 88GT 5spd Stock.
IP: Logged
01:09 AM
pokeyfiero Member
Posts: 16203 From: Free America! Registered: Dec 2003
Originally posted by Capt Fiero: I said the nose, not the hood, not the fenders, just the nose. Yesh man lay off the coffee. I realize the front of the car has been stretched as well as the hood and the fenders. But it was amazing to me that it had an early bumper pad nose with a custom airdam on it.
I don't drink coffee....thanks. It's just the way you worded your reply made it sound like nothing was done to the front end of the car, which is what I consider the "nose". I guess different people have different definitions of generic terms.....not a big deal. I would have called it the bumper or fascia, but that's me. To me "nose" includes the entire front end. Again, just a difference in definitions.....no harm, no foul.
I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.
IP: Logged
02:14 AM
hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
I don't drink coffee....thanks. It's just the way you worded your reply made it sound like nothing was done to the front end of the car, which is what I consider the "nose". I guess different people have different definitions of generic terms.....not a big deal. I would have called it the bumper or fascia, but that's me. To me "nose" includes the entire front end. Again, just a difference in definitions.....no harm, no foul.
I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.
If I recall 100% But I think this is not a total tube frame car but a modified Fiero space frame. Most production base salt cars retaim much of the stock chassie.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck at least in my book.
Most people still feel a Mera, Pro Street Fiero and Zimmers are still Fiero's.
IP: Logged
07:08 AM
Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by mrfiero: I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.
no, its a Fiero. if he put a Ferrari body on it - it would still be a Fiero. It will always be a Fiero. where does one draw the line? there is no line, and no need. the car always has been, and always will be a Fiero.
I agree 100% the front engine & stretched makes it unlike yours & my Fiero. but - so what? that does not means its no longer a Fiero. even the "trike" Fiero's are still Fiero's.
I have Grand Am front brakes. Is my car still a Fiero? I have a Lumina engine block. Is my car still a Fiero? of course. mods be mods.
IP: Logged
08:35 AM
Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
Hmmmmmmmm, Questions,,, If my mom has a nose Job,, boob job, hip replacement and then puts 300lbs on eating ho hos' is she not my mom anymore?? Maybe a house fire burns her over 90% of her body and lives but looks nothing like the woman I once knew, is she still not my mom? Extreme examples but still puts a differnt look on it I think, dont you?
Neat car. SC
IP: Logged
04:45 PM
California Kid Member
Posts: 9541 From: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan Registered: Jul 2001
I'm fine with that being called a "modified fiero" Even if it turns out to be only body panels and nothing else, I think it's great that someone chose a fiero to represent their speed record attempt. Only question I have is: why is there still a hole where the stock intake was? I would think that would mess with airflow at high speeds a wee bit. Why not just block it off? If it's to retain the 'stock look', just paint the cover black or something.
IP: Logged
08:19 PM
hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
I'm fine with that being called a "modified fiero" Even if it turns out to be only body panels and nothing else, I think it's great that someone chose a fiero to represent their speed record attempt. Only question I have is: why is there still a hole where the stock intake was? I would think that would mess with airflow at high speeds a wee bit. Why not just block it off? If it's to retain the 'stock look', just paint the cover black or something.
It would be a good aero scoop for a oil cooler or rear diff cooler. Or even a air cooler for the driver in the car.
I also rechecked the new photo's and it does have a new nose on the car. More GT like but looks like it is either custom or modified to get lower down to the ground.
[This message has been edited by hyperv6 (edited 03-08-2007).]