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Worlds Fastest Fiero? 263.881 MPH by hyperv6
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Report this Post03-07-2007 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Direct Link to This Post


I know this was posted before but there is updated info.

In the Hemmings Muscle Machines April issue they show a picture of this car on the salt lake.

Fred Guljas Of Kearny Nebraska ran a best of 263.881 MPH one way and 257.768 in a two way average to set the class record in the A/BFMS class.

This car is tunning 467 MPH Chevy V8.

I expect it is safe to say he is the fastest Fiero.

And before anyone points it out Yes we know it is not Mid Engined anymore.

Check news stand soon as this April issue is to be out soon and is a good Pontiac Issue.
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Sidepipes Rock!

I also like vertical stacks on pickup cabs...

Ah... the 70's...
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At those speeds, I'm guessing the head light pop-ups are bolted down, hehe.
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Someone should tell that guy he stretched the wrong area of the frame!
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I was going to guess that it had been dropped out of an airplane in order to reach those speeds.
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maybe the headlights pop up for ram air effect since the motor is in the front?

with the motor in the front atleast the front end won't lift at high speeds
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Report this Post03-07-2007 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofrenzySend a Private Message to fierofrenzyDirect Link to This Post
No Good ! That is NOT a Fiero !
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Report this Post03-07-2007 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderDirect Link to This Post
Interesting. Besides being a lot longer there aren't too many aerodynamic mods. I would have guessed they used a different front end.
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Report this Post03-07-2007 09:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Capt FieroClick Here to visit Capt Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Capt FieroDirect Link to This Post
It looks like he has not done a lot to the nose just the air-damn and such. Then added what looks like an air-diffuser on the back.

With the new Aluminum Small Block Chevy's coming in sizes up to 454 cubic inches. Yes I said Small Block 454. You could probably use a forced induction system and get 900-1000hp out of it. Balance the hell out of it, so it would rev really well with the power in the high rpm range. I wonder just how much power a cryo treated 6spd would handle. If you did not hard launch it, just rolled on the power and did not open it up till 3000rpms in 6th. Hmm, just how fast could you go with a huge engine, a few body mods and keep it mid engine. It would not be the cheapest way to go fast, but I bet it would turn some heads. The biggest issue would be a trans that could handle that much power in top gear.

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Originally posted by Capt Fiero:

It looks like he has not done a lot to the nose just the air-damn and such.



??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.
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Originally posted by mrfiero:
??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.



Well this is an old photo. It looks like the photo in the new magazine has a more GT like nose on it now.

As for the long nose it is one of the few ways they would keep this car on the ground. Things at Bonneville are a little different than most race cars. Yes they keep them low and powerful but it takes more than that as you approch 300 MPH.

First off many add weight to the cars to keep them down. Once they start rolling weight is not a penalty as in drag racing. Second the nose is long not only to give a place for the engine but to also help keep the nose on the salt and inprove handling at speed. Short wheel base is a problem at high speeds that is why most streamliners are so long.

Finally having the engine in back is not a help at these speeds. If anything it would just make it harder and more complicated to work on and to keep reliable with this kind of power. Besides the weigh on the nose will help it steer and keep the car planted.

If you have not seen these cars run on the salt before it is amazing as they lower drag and manage the air but work hard to keep the air out form under the car. It is common for them to spin and flip on the salt. The guy who went 300+ in a stock body Firebird had his car over 4000 pound to help keep it planted.

I once saw a RX7 take off like a kite once he spun it really wiped ou the car but the driver walked away.

This car is as much Fiero as many of the modified cars here. He is getting good press and is only helping out cars name. I would rather credit him as a Fiero vs some of the other I have seen that have done some cruel thing to our little car.

The 32 Ford fans don't dis the guys with the Modified Ford roadster on the salt. Most just copy their cars and street drive them. Thes were the original Hot Rods.

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Originally posted by mrfiero:
??? Do you not see the 2 foot stretch to the front end? I agree with fierofrenzy, it is no longer a Fiero. It's cool and has the essence of a Fiero, but with the front mounted V-8 and stretch, it shouldn't be classified as anything resembling a Fiero. I want to see a mid engined stock wheelbase Fiero at the salt flats flat out......V-6, V-8, whatever.....as long as it has the dimensions of a Fiero.



I said the nose, not the hood, not the fenders, just the nose. Yesh man lay off the coffee. I realize the front of the car has been stretched as well as the hood and the fenders. But it was amazing to me that it had an early bumper pad nose with a custom airdam on it.

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I could beat it.
I could.
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Report this Post03-08-2007 01:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierobearSend a Private Message to fierobearDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

I could beat it.
I could.



No, pokey. You should NOT have anything that goes that fast. Baaaad idea, man.
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

I could beat it.
I could.



Dude the only thing I could beat that thing with is a stick!
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Originally posted by Capt Fiero:
I said the nose, not the hood, not the fenders, just the nose. Yesh man lay off the coffee. I realize the front of the car has been stretched as well as the hood and the fenders. But it was amazing to me that it had an early bumper pad nose with a custom airdam on it.




I don't drink coffee....thanks. It's just the way you worded your reply made it sound like nothing was done to the front end of the car, which is what I consider the "nose". I guess different people have different definitions of generic terms.....not a big deal. I would have called it the bumper or fascia, but that's me. To me "nose" includes the entire front end. Again, just a difference in definitions.....no harm, no foul.

I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.

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Originally posted by mrfiero:


I don't drink coffee....thanks. It's just the way you worded your reply made it sound like nothing was done to the front end of the car, which is what I consider the "nose". I guess different people have different definitions of generic terms.....not a big deal. I would have called it the bumper or fascia, but that's me. To me "nose" includes the entire front end. Again, just a difference in definitions.....no harm, no foul.

I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.



If I recall 100% But I think this is not a total tube frame car but a modified Fiero space frame. Most production base salt cars retaim much of the stock chassie.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck at least in my book.

Most people still feel a Mera, Pro Street Fiero and Zimmers are still Fiero's.

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Originally posted by mrfiero:
I still say that this car, while cool, is not a Fiero in the sense that it is the "world's fastest Fiero". Where does one draw the line? What if this guy puts a Ferrari body on this Fiero and hits the salt flats again......does he now have the world's fastest Ferrari? It would have as much in common with a real Ferrari as it now has with a real Fiero, but I digress.


no, its a Fiero. if he put a Ferrari body on it - it would still be a Fiero. It will always be a Fiero. where does one draw the line? there is no line, and no need. the car always has been, and always will be a Fiero.

I agree 100% the front engine & stretched makes it unlike yours & my Fiero. but - so what? that does not means its no longer a Fiero. even the "trike" Fiero's are still Fiero's.

I have Grand Am front brakes. Is my car still a Fiero? I have a Lumina engine block. Is my car still a Fiero? of course. mods be mods.
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Bugatti Veyron: Wheelbase 106.3 in Length 175.8 in

stock Fiero: Wheelbase 93.4 in. Length 160.3 in

All you need to do is get the aerodynamics hooked up, get 9 more radiators, an awd setup and 1001 HP.
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Originally posted by Gokart Mozart:

All you need to do is get the aerodynamics hooked up, get 9 more radiators, an awd setup and 1001 HP.


...and balls. Basketball sized ones. 130 in a stock wheelbase Fiero is scary. Any faster would make me pee my pants.

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Originally posted by tesmith66:


...and balls. Basketball sized ones. 130 in a stock wheelbase Fiero is scary. Any faster would make me pee my pants.



hoodvent really helps this ALOT. as does fresh suspension components.....
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Hmmmmmmmm, Questions,,, If my mom has a nose Job,, boob job, hip replacement and then puts 300lbs on eating ho hos' is she not my mom anymore?? Maybe a house fire burns her over 90% of her body and lives but looks nothing like the woman I once knew, is she still not my mom? Extreme examples but still puts a differnt look on it I think, dont you?

Neat car. SC
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In the car world, it's more correctly called a "MODIFIED FIERO".
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Originally posted by California Kid:

In the car world, it's more correctly called a "MODIFIED FIERO".


You have the right Idea!!

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The scooter next to it went 234.654 MPH
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I'm fine with that being called a "modified fiero" Even if it turns out to be only body panels and nothing else, I think it's great that someone chose a fiero to represent their speed record attempt. Only question I have is: why is there still a hole where the stock intake was? I would think that would mess with airflow at high speeds a wee bit. Why not just block it off? If it's to retain the 'stock look', just paint the cover black or something.
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Originally posted by kwagner:

I'm fine with that being called a "modified fiero" Even if it turns out to be only body panels and nothing else, I think it's great that someone chose a fiero to represent their speed record attempt. Only question I have is: why is there still a hole where the stock intake was? I would think that would mess with airflow at high speeds a wee bit. Why not just block it off? If it's to retain the 'stock look', just paint the cover black or something.


It would be a good aero scoop for a oil cooler or rear diff cooler. Or even a air cooler for the driver in the car.

I also rechecked the new photo's and it does have a new nose on the car. More GT like but looks like it is either custom or modified to get lower down to the ground.

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