In California a junked vechicle can be revived with a Smog,brake and light inspection. You would end up with a salvage title. Offereing this buy out incentive might instigate changes to this .
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Oct 1st, 2007
jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I got a letter from my Chevy dealer offering me $3,000 for my pre-96 trade PLUS $3,000 cash back guaranteed. That's $6,000 for any ole Fiero that can come in under it's own power. Suddenly my Indy's days may be numbered???
I got a letter from my Chevy dealer offering me $3,000 for my pre-96 trade PLUS $3,000 cash back guaranteed. That's $6,000 for any ole Fiero that can come in under it's own power. Suddenly my Indy's days may be numbered???
You say that like it's a bad thing? Our cars are already chevy powered, what's wrong with Chevys?
Anyway you are talking about shady used car dealers which are a dime a dozen. This $3,000 deal is sponsored by the state of Texas which has set aside 100 million to go towards getting rid of the pre-96 cars.
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hammer18 Member
Posts: 383 From: Maplewood Minnesota Registered: Jun 2007
Nov. 26, 2007, 7:50AM State program to replace old vehicles delayed
Associated Press
DALLAS — A state program to help low-income drivers replace old, polluting vehicles has been delayed until January as officials work out the program's final details.
Under the "accelerated vehicle-retirement program," residents in 16 counties in the Dallas, Houston and Austin areas will get vouchers worth up to $3,500 to help purchase a new vehicle when they exchange a vehicle that's at least 10 years old.
Final rules for the program, which had been scheduled to begin by the end of the year, will be completed in December. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality will manage the program.
"The later start date will probably work out best," said state Sen. Kip Averitt, R-Waco, who sponsored the bill that created the program. "They plan to have everything online and ready to go, but because we will be pushing into Christmas when people are distracted by the holidays they thought it would be best to do the kickoff in early January."
Officials said they've tried to simplify the program by removing a requirement that drivers go to a state or county office first. Instead, the state is considering allowing drivers to take their old cars to any area dealership and get a voucher there to buy a new vehicle.
Owners who agree to "retire" their vehicles will get $3,000 vouchers that can be used toward buying a new car or truck or a late-model used vehicle. If they opt to buy a hybrid, they can get $3,500. The program is voluntary.
Starting in 1996, automakers equipped U.S. vehicles with more sophisticated and precise fuel-injection systems, better sensors and improved computers to meet increasingly stringent clean-air standards. In the years since, most vehicles have gotten significantly cleaner.
The state has up to $100 million available for the program, funded by vehicle-inspection fees in the Dallas and Houston areas.
Averitt said the funding should be enough to get at least 40,000 old vehicles off the road in the Dallas and Houston areas. The money will be available on a first-come, first-served basis.
Drew Campbell, president of the New Car Dealers Association of Metropolitan Dallas, said it makes sense for dealers to be involved because they have expertise in trades and sales.
"What the state is concerned about more than anything else is how do we make this process as clean and simple as we can," he said.
Averitt said the state has produced a training video for car dealerships and financial institutions.
"We're hoping when they come into the dealership that most of the work can be done there," he said.
Campbell, who has participated in meetings to develop the program, said details still need to be worked out for disposing of the old vehicles.
"The hang-up now is with the (salvage) crushers," he said. "We need to make sure that we've got a process that guarantees that every old car gets picked up and crushed."
To qualify for the program, vehicles must have passed a state inspection within the last 15 months and have been registered in a participating county for at least a year. The owner's annual income cannot exceed $61,950 for a family of four.
For cars that qualify, a $3,000 voucher will be issued that can be used as a down payment on a new vehicle that cannot cost more than $25,000. The voucher can also be applied to used vehicles that are no more than two model years old.
The 16 counties are Brazoria, Collin, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, Fort Bend, Galveston, Harris, Johnson, Kaufman, Montgomery, Parker, Rockwall, Tarrant, Travis and Williamson.
If you follow the link you find the income requirements and the cars elligible for the voucher:
Size of Household Maximum Net Income Per Year 1 $30,630 2 $41,070 3 $51,510 4 $61,950 5 $72,390 6 $82,830 7 $93,270 8 $103,710 Over 8 Add $10,400 for each additional member
Okay If I have a wife and 6 kids I can make a decent salary, but look what cars you can buy with government assistance
I wouldn't sell MY Fiero, but I'd be snatching up a lot of cars from Craig's list. It would be good for several thousand dollars profit each week. It would pay better tahn my teaching job. I wish they'd do that in Atlanta!
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proff Member
Posts: 7393 From: The bottom of the world Registered: Oct 2004
Okay it's offifcial now....the voucher program has sold out to the dealers... Just got another letter,
" You have been selected to receive a cash voucher from the State of Texas in the amount of $3,500. You must bring your current 1988 PONTIAC FIERO to your state registered dealership location immediately!"
As we all know if you have to go through the dealership the money will get hidden in the deal somewhere and little if any actually end up in the hands of the consumer. Sheesh.
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kennethmoore77 Member
Posts: 81 From: on a street in a town Registered: Oct 2007
I would tell them to screw themselves, and then tell them that I am preserving a bit of history! Rare cars must live on! Whats next? "Bring your 1932 Chevy Custom to the local dealership for $3,500 cash voucher!" Excuse me, some of our cars are worth a bit more than that. Now, if they said "Bring your 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT to the local dealership for a $300,000 voucher" I would be like "HELL YES! Im gettin a countach!"
I wonder what the environmental impact (pollution, waste, energy consumed) of buildling a new car is? Seems to me that driving an existing car instead of building a new one just might be less harmful to the environment, assuming it is in reasonable tune.
This whole 'get the old cars off the road' policy sounds like it was dreamed up by the automakers/dealers....
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Dec 19th, 2007
Racing_Master Member
Posts: 1460 From: Hooksett, NH, USA Registered: Nov 2007
Originally posted by SC Coupe: This whole 'get the old cars off the road' policy sounds like it was dreamed up by the automakers/dealers....
it was, since if the old cars are out of commision, we all buy new cars, give them money. Mainly it must be GM, Ford, and Chrystler that are gonna push it, since they are in the hole for profits, this way they can get more profits
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JohnF Member
Posts: 2622 From: Redeye's Ride is from D/FW, Tx. Registered: Jul 2001
I got a letter from my Chevy dealer offering me $3,000 for my pre-96 trade PLUS $3,000 cash back guaranteed. That's $6,000 for any ole Fiero that can come in under it's own power. Suddenly my Indy's days may be numbered???
Jonathon, an individual does not get $3000.00 out of getting rid of his car that does not pass inspection. A DEALER will get the $3000.00 AFTER a transaction is made. Take your clunker to the dealer and "buy" the newer vehicle. The dealer will "apply" the $3000.00 to the final purchase price and the toal bill will be reduced by the $3000.00. Yep, the dealer simply ups the price on the prospective vehicle and tells the unsuspecting buyer what a good deal he is getting!
This whole thing is to help the Texas new car delaers. You can tell it was dreamed up and lobbied for heavily by them to get their "sales" increased in these times of low unit number sales in their industry. Car dealers are suffering across the nation. Look at the losses in revenue at all manufacturer's. This is a phony, politically correct way for the state to subsidize the lagging car sales industry. It is simply another money transfer from the more affluent to thel less affluent - TAX! (and another gubmint agency to handle the TAX - more employees on the gubmint payroll for life).
Oh, BTW - you don't qualify for the Texas rebate anyway, hehehehehehehe
Now, go back to getting your Indy on the road.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Oh, BTW - you don't qualify for the Texas rebate anyway, hehehehehehehe
Now, go back to getting your Indy on the road.
Yeah you quoted me from an earlier more enthusiastic post. The way they implemented this it's basically a $3,000 kick back to the dealers. It's been poorly implemented and won't benefit consumers very much if at all. They have income restrictions, yet if you look at the cars you can buy it includes a Bugatti Veyron, which last time I checked retailed for over $3 million! Pretty ridiculous.
these politicians are so narrow minded if they quit producing new cars and just made parts for old cars the pollution would go way down. the about of pollution produced in making a new car is ridicules especially the hybrids cuz of all the batteries. old cars may make more tail pipe emissions but thats nothing compared to the pollution made buy the factories that produce these new junks
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Dec 20th, 2007
fierosound Member
Posts: 15190 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
Okay it's offifcial now....the voucher program has sold out to the dealers... Just got another letter,
" You have been selected to receive a cash voucher from the State of Texas in the amount of $3,500. You must bring your current 1988 PONTIAC FIERO to your state registered dealership location immediately!"
I'm pretty sure they're saying IF you want to collect your $3500 voucher, to bring your car in. Ignore it.
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carnut122 Member
Posts: 9122 From: Waleska, GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004