The '84 Fiero (And its computer BTW) was *designed* by GM engineers as a reliable, fuel-efficient commuter coupe. Commuter. As in, 'make this car get great mileage'.
A cheaply made chip burned by some guy on his PC in his spare time isn't going to do much better, I think.
I have this farmland in Alaska I'd like to sell you, Sir. You'll love it.
I'm not familiar with the "surge engineering" chip, but all of the chips I've seen for Fieros typically do the same thing.
Make the car run rich. Give you less horsepower. Kill your gas mileage.
And that's if they succeed in doing anything. Most will try to "fool" the intake air temp sensor or something to richen up the mixture, then the ECM reads this and leans it back to where it's supposed to be. - Net result = no change.
Originally posted by Formula88: And that's if they succeed in doing anything. Most will try to "fool" the intake air temp sensor or something to richen up the mixture, then the ECM reads this and leans it back to where it's supposed to be. - Net result = no change.
84 doesnt even have an intake air temp sensor... or PCM controlled timing.
dude.. for one, ask in tech, two.. stop making so many damn threads. lol one would be enough, and for future reference, most chips for cars older than like 95 or maybe even newer, dont do ANYTHING but maybe make your engine run rich.
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Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
Originally posted by 84Bill: 84 doesnt even have an intake air temp sensor... or PCM controlled timing.
Wrong, the 1984 has PCM controlled timing advance. The distributor has an ignition module, pick-up coil and no weights, that means the PCM has to control the timing advance. There is no mechanical advance.
Yes the 1984-1986 4-cyl engines do not use a MAT sensor only the V-6 uses it.
As for he topic of the thread: The "Surge Engineering" chip will NOT work on a 4-cyl engine and on the V-6 it causes poor performance and can cause engine damage by causing pre-dentonation (pinging) under certain conditions. This can actually damage your engine.
Lets just say it does work, what other mods do you have? Making your car dump fuel will do... jack.
performance hearders cold air intake re build kit for the motor. and my car isnt actually that slow out of the whole i kicked a mustang GT at the pamona drag strip in LA
The '84 Fiero (And its computer BTW) was *designed* by GM engineers as a reliable, fuel-efficient commuter coupe. Commuter. As in, 'make this car get great mileage'.
A cheaply made chip burned by some guy on his PC in his spare time isn't going to do much better, I think.
I have this farmland in Alaska I'd like to sell you, Sir. You'll love it.
How many acres you got to sell? I like the weather up there
I agree on the chips, even on the 2.8. In my case the chip the PO had in there ate more gas, for no noticable gain.. ( its since then been pulled out for a OEM program )
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Posts: 3172 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Registered: Oct 2006
Originally posted by italian90: performance hearders cold air intake re build kit for the motor. and my car isnt actually that slow out of the whole i kicked a mustang GT at the pamona drag strip in LA
performance hearders cold air intake re build kit for the motor. and my car isnt actually that slow out of the whole i kicked a mustang GT at the pamona drag strip in LA
Uhm. The duke will get up off the line with a touch of go. but theres no way you beat a v-6 mustang, let alone a GT
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Posts: 4080 From: Minnesnowta ------------------ Land of White Gold Registered: Sep 2002
Originally posted by 86FieroCentPa: Uhm. The duke will get up off the line with a touch of go. but theres no way you beat a v-6 mustang, let alone a GT
HALLELUJAH !!!!!
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Posts: 3172 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Registered: Oct 2006
Come on boys, give the poor guy a break. How many of you remember tieing a balloon to your bicycle forks for a little sound action?
You older fellows know what I'm talking about.
Now to give him a little support and divert the flames I was given a chip by a friend and I put it in my 2.8 (2) years ago. Cant say I felt anymore power but I dont beat the car. Never had the pedal to the wall once.
As far as gas mileage I get 27-29 mpg and thats with a 4 spd / no overdrive. Sorry I dont remember who's chip it was but I know it was not the Surge product.
Now for that beachfront property somebody was selling
I am actually writing an english paper, because I know how to spell, and want to make more out my life than being a babling failure who just posts stupid come backs online.
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I am actually writing an english paper, because I know how to spell, and want to make more out my life than being a babling failure who just posts stupid come backs online.
dude im in the military so keep talking trash lil boy and go cry to ur mommy
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Mr.PBody Member
Posts: 3172 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Registered: Oct 2006
The military doesn't have stuff for you to do other than tie up their bandwidth making yourself look like a moron?
ive served 4 tours 2 iraq so wen ur sittin in ur lil bedroom playing on the computer i was out in the freezing cold and desert heat so just shuuuuut up
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