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1/4 quarter mile LIST by NOS3800
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Report this Post10-21-2004 01:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WikedV6Send a Private Message to WikedV6Direct Link to This Post
Can you please post these numbers, he is a new member his screen name is John Lindsay

Thanks
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I'm new to this forum and was asked to post my buildup so here I go.
86 GT automatic all options but no sub. or wing. 100000 miles still have orignal paint, interior, shocks, struts, rear brake pads from the factoy. Best ET 12.33 @ 116 MPH on stock size street tires.
I get 23 mpg hwy, 17 city
Trans: 125 was bilt by Jim's Per.Trans. with a 3500 stall
Engine: 87 Buick FWD engine from a Olds 88 with harnes
3 steel main caps with studs
JE pistons stock rods and crank with rolled fillits like the turbo crank
stock oil pump and front cover
stock roller cam regrouned 210/210
Champion alum. heads Comp. valve springs for cam, head studs, turbo gaskets
stock rockers with hevy duty shafts
stock intake manifold with 65 MM TB 09 injectors
GN ECM, Z06 Air flow meter, translater plus, Exstender chip
T63E turbo with home made exhaust manifolds
SMC alcohol kit boost set at 16 psi. on 91 gas
No intercooler yet working on a/c intercooler set up
2 BanM 28000# coolers one for engine oil and one for trans. with pusher fans
Remote oil filter.
Hope to run low 10s in the next 2 years with 600 HP
http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/pics/Family/eng%20front-002f%20(Small).jpg
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86 GT Turbo with a 87 Buick 3.8 FWD block.
Best ET 12.33 116 MPH. with no intercooler
on pump gas and steet tires. Some day low 10s.
71 datsun with a 3.8 turbo buick ET 10.17 133 MPH
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Originally posted by WikedV6:

Can you please post these numbers, he is a new member his screen name is John Lindsay

Thanks
Prasad


I'm new to this forum and was asked to post my buildup so here I go.
86 GT automatic all options but no sub. or wing. 100000 miles still have orignal paint, interior, shocks, struts, rear brake pads from the factoy. Best ET 12.33 @ 116 MPH on stock size street tires.
I get 23 mpg hwy, 17 city
Trans: 125 was bilt by Jim's Per.Trans. with a 3500 stall
Engine: 87 Buick FWD engine from a Olds 88 with harnes
3 steel main caps with studs
JE pistons stock rods and crank with rolled fillits like the turbo crank
stock oil pump and front cover
stock roller cam regrouned 210/210
Champion alum. heads Comp. valve springs for cam, head studs, turbo gaskets
stock rockers with hevy duty shafts
stock intake manifold with 65 MM TB 09 injectors
GN ECM, Z06 Air flow meter, translater plus, Exstender chip
T63E turbo with home made exhaust manifolds
SMC alcohol kit boost set at 16 psi. on 91 gas
No intercooler yet working on a/c intercooler set up
2 BanM 28000# coolers one for engine oil and one for trans. with pusher fans
Remote oil filter.
Hope to run low 10s in the next 2 years with 600 HP
http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/pics/Family/eng%20front-002f%20(Small).jpg
http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/pics/Family/eng%20rear%20with%20intake-003f%20(Small).jpg [/ URL]
http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/pics/Family/Mvc-001f%20(Small).jpg
[URL=http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/video/Mvc-007v.mpg]http://www.hei.net/~volvoman/video/Mvc-007v.mpg

Got any digital slips or dyno sheets? I have an 86 SE on Ebay right now with the exact same engine. How much work was the turbo install?

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Took the car to the track to try out a new chip from Darth. Good good results considering: Did not use any kind of race gas or octane booster, kept everything like it was on the street(spare tire, full tank, etc.), and I was babying the launches. So I got new personal bests of 12.52@110.30 mph. Not bad considering I am still getting KR. It has to be the exhaust causing "Boost Stacking". I HAVE to find me a flange from the stock downpipe, then I can make a race exhaust.
BTW, LilDevil put his street exhaust back on with alittle bit of work on it and he was only running 12.5's@112mph and he was using a 2.8 pulley. Granted he had to baby it off the line too, but I'm not too far behind.
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Report this Post10-23-2004 05:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusThugSend a Private Message to TaurusThugDirect Link to This Post
you should go swap some parts off lil devil... i doubt he'd notice

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Talked to Troy Ritchie. He will be the fastest by next season. That 11 sec run was plagued with some issues and he hates seeing on here cause its innacurate.

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Guess I should get myself on this thread

87 GT FB
stock 3400 (2001 Grand Am)
ECM from a 91 cavalier 3.1L
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60ft 1.965
1/8 : 9.211 @ 76.00 MPH
1/4 : 14.38 @ 95.13MPH

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Here are my times. 88GT , 4.9 bone stock crate engine, T460e tranny, fully loaded with jack , spare, toolbox , and wifes pocketbook !! First time on the track in over 30 years too. Had a blast tho. Made 6 runs.
Nothing spectacular , just room for improvement. I'm not out to break records.
Best R/T .046
Best 60 ft 2.159
Best 1/8th 9.532
Best 1/4 14.929
Best mph 90.21

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update me.

R/T 0.154
60 ft 2.05
1/8 9.419
1/4 14.791
mph 91.43

190,000 km 2.8L
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Update to mine also. (Stock 4.9, Rockcrawl Chip w/4t60E 2.97 final Drive)

RT 1.032 (I know I was asleep at the wheel)
60 2.096 (Alot of wheel Spin)
1/8 9.179
1/4 14.184
1/4 97.01 (Used to Trap at 89)

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Report this Post12-19-2004 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8TClick Here to visit 3.8T's HomePageSend a Private Message to 3.8TDirect Link to This Post
update for meee please and thanks.

didnt get down to the track much though by seasons end.
best to date now:

12.20 @ 120 mph

also, now with 2001 5-speed getrag tranny, and air to water intercooled.

will have 11's come spring

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List updated. Sorry for the delay.
LINENOISE: I need vehicle info.

3.8T- YOU BASTARD! Now your on top of the 12 sec club. With that MPH you WILL be in the 11's this summer! Awesome job/ awesome car.

March 5th is my first track day this season, how bout everyone else?

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Report this Post01-24-2005 03:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8TClick Here to visit 3.8T's HomePageSend a Private Message to 3.8TDirect Link to This Post
Thanks man

Yah, I hope to be in 11's....well, should damn well be soon lol. The run is even with cheesy 255/40/17 hardass kumho 712 tires that done hook for sh!t....i can barely get my 60' ft under 2.0 half the time. When i get it at 1.6 - 1.8, that should make a nice difference. I do plan for tryin out slicks this season. I also wanna do more circuit though.

Yah, i couldnt believe the mph...i did these last runs in Nov...the cold air must have helped out bigtime, especially with the intercooler running. Though, I lost traction a bit due to the cold too.

Ill be sure to post up new timeslip when i go this spring

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Thanks man

Yah, I hope to be in 11's....well, should damn well be soon lol. The run is even with cheesy 255/40/17 hardass kumho 712 tires that done hook for sh!t....i can barely get my 60' ft under 2.0 half the time. When i get it at 1.6 - 1.8, that should make a nice difference. I do plan for tryin out slicks this season. I also wanna do more circuit though.

Yah, i couldnt believe the mph...i did these last runs in Nov...the cold air must have helped out bigtime, especially with the intercooler running. Though, I lost traction a bit due to the cold too.

Ill be sure to post up new timeslip when i go this spring


The general rule of thumb is for every 0.1 sec improvement in 60' time, your 1/4 mile E.T. improves by 0.2sec. At least that has been my experience. I guess it has something to do with the initial launch momentum. I was able to get a 1.784sec 60' when launching at about 2psi of boost using 225 55 HR16 BF Goodrich Traction T/A tires. The track's launchpad was groomed really good that day though. Maybe some C16 race gas and more boost will yeild 11's for me this year but I don't know when I will have time to get to the track. Customer cars come first. I have heard a rumor that some people are trying to get an L67-swap day put together at Norwalk Raceway Park in Norwalk, Ohio this summer, if I hear anything I will let all of you know.

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just a bump. season is almost here
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Bump so that I can star it.
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hey where are the 350 SB times? All I see is like 2 on the list.
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Originally posted by TheSoloDriver:

hey where are the 350 SB times? All I see is like 2 on the list.

I count 6 SBC's on the list.

Al Rupertus: 10.99@133mph FB (355SBC w NOS, Olds Tornado Trans.)
Troy Ritchie: 11.52@121mph FB (383V8 w/NOS)
cardealer: 10.98@127mph FB (SBC/NOS- longitudinal auto tranny)
Tina: 11.92@120mph NB (383 SBC V8- Isuzu 5 speed)
Calikid: 12.20@118mph FB (L98 SBC-5speed)
Mr.Pat: 13.2@100mph FB (ironhead LT1, 4T60E auto, cutom chip(darth))

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Thats all the SBC that will give me their times. Sorry for the lack of numbers.
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Just an update for my Fiero.

april 17 05 @ St. thomas
60ft: 1.969
1/8 : 9.171
1/4 : 14.262 @ 97.17 mph

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Get a set of BF Goodrich G-Force Sport tires as they are helping me lift the front end off the ground. On a straight take off there amazing. I will have some times on my 3800 Supercharged within a few months.
Remeber the calculation from a 1/8th mile to 1/4 is not always true as some cars have bad top end and this can slow you allot. Get it on a 1/4 track already hahahaha Rick B

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As embarrassing as it is for us SBC people.
out of the two times I ran tonight my best time was 14.11 @???mph (i didn't get the slip sorry)

can anyone suggest some stickyer tires?

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Loafers on the Curse are Yoko's. (ES 100's I believe)
Wouldn't recommend them on a rainy day...but they are not half bad when it comes to gription.

Tina

Edit ... cause those tires now reside on the 88. (Most of the time)
Heard no complaints either when Greg took them on the road course in BIR.

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i've got Yoko's too. but that still no fair, you've got 18's that are about 1/2 of a block wide each.
i've got stock 14" tech wheels.
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:

As embarrassing as it is for us SBC people.
out of the two times I ran tonight my best time was 14.11 @???mph (i didn't get the slip sorry)

can anyone suggest some stickyer tires?

 
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243~000~16327~000~1.198~2.828~7.235~10.729~
71.41~13.748~16.327~87.61~726. ~000~000~.14~8:16

243R~000~15568~000~.738~2.586~6.811~10.221~
71.74~13.142~15.568~93.00~725~1.2193~000~2~000

Looks like 16.32 @ 87.61 and 15.568 @ 93mph. You seem to be gaining a second a run... How much do you think she has in her?

PS - Do you have a build thread somewhere? Sounds like a pretty cool Fiero you have there.

Greg

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Looks like 16.32 @ 87.61 and 15.568 @ 93mph. You seem to be gaining a second a run... How much do you think she has in her?

those are the times of my second race, between the car on the left and me.

my first run was actually better at 14.11 but i took it easy on the gas cause i knew i would kill the first guy cause he ran 19.5X
but for undisclosed reasons i really wanted to match or beat the second car and was a little heavy on the gas.

i was in the right lane and the people in the tower told me that the "R" in the number 243R ment right lane when the cars have the same number but his car was number 244 and i was 243.

from the best i can figure out this is how the time slips reads
car 243 243R
r/t 1.198 0.738
60 2.828 2.586
330 7.235 6.811
1/8 10.729 10.221
mph 71.41 71.74
1000 13.748 13.142
1/4 16.327 15.568
mph 87.61 93.00

but now i'm really confused. cause the guys watching said the "win" light was on my side.

at some point the other guy was about 1 1/2 car lenths ahead of me.
but when i hit forth i stoped spinning my tires and passed him.

but if i'm reading the numbers correctly "someone" was in front of the other one all the way to the finish line.
or am i just so much of a virgin that i cant read a time slip?

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So how many people have pics of there Fiero's pulling the front wheels on launch. Can it be done on street tires.

Oh and badumpbump

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Owner Her86GT with 86 FB, 97 N* stock engine, 4.5 psi boost, 4T60 transmission. street tires 12.600 @ 108 mph.

makes it the quickest N* on the list I believe but still not where it should be yet.

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Originally posted by buddycraigg:

from the best i can figure out this is how the time slips reads
car 243 243R
r/t 1.198 0.738
60 2.828 2.586
330 7.235 6.811
1/8 10.729 10.221
mph 71.41 71.74
1000 13.748 13.142
1/4 16.327 15.568
mph 87.61 93.00

but now i'm really confused. cause the guys watching said the "win" light was on my side.

at some point the other guy was about 1 1/2 car lenths ahead of me.
but when i hit forth i stoped spinning my tires and passed him.

but if i'm reading the numbers correctly "someone" was in front of the other one all the way to the finish line.
or am i just so much of a virgin that i cant read a time slip?

The reaction time is triggered when your car makes it's initial move forward (where you started spinning), it looks to me like he got that 1.5 car length while you were spinning and you barely beat him to the 60ft mark. You just may have passed him sooner than you thought. I know it happenes all so fast.

Greg

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16.7 @ 80mph stock 88 Formula 2.8 5spd

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Originally posted by Capt Fiero:

So how many people have pics of there Fiero's pulling the front wheels on launch. Can it be done on street tires.

Oh and badumpbump


to pull the front wheels up....one would need quite the power....i doubt any street driven fieros we know can manage that. im at 400 whp and ill let u know how close i come...tho i doubt ill get even close....

im sure one would need 600+hp at least to pickup the fronties

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I've got pictures on the forum pulling the front end off the ground at Union Grove Dragway,and in june we put on 3000 miles as a longhauler on the hot rod power tour.I averaged 22.8 miles per gal.It's hard for me not to pull them off the ground,it costs time in a quarter mile when that happens.So ,yes it can be done. Don

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Originally posted by Don Kraus:

I've got pictures on the forum pulling the front end off the ground at Union Grove Dragway,and in june we put on 3000 miles as a longhauler on the hot rod power tour.I averaged 22.8 miles per gal.It's hard for me not to pull them off the ground,it costs time in a quarter mile when that happens.So ,yes it can be done. Don

That lead wing helps you a bit though. j/k

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Thank's for that hint,now I know what's doing it.Don

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Yeah, Don is the real deal, he does get the wheels off the ground. And I don't think he is anywhere near 600 HP , correct? Suspension help and a good torque convertor will do it. AND sticky tires. Street tires will not do it, they will spin before lifting the fronts. There are a lot of people claiming they lift the fronts, but Don is the only one that has the pics. Evryone else I believe is dreaming. There is a video of a V8 car doing it and I think a 4.3 turbo doing it, but they aren't on the forum.
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Please Update my times.

As of Aug 10, 2005

R/T .064
60' 1.723
330' 5.111
1/8 mile 7.913
1/8 MPH 88.04
1000' 10.336
1/4 Mile 12.387
1/4 Mile time 109.440


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