Yes, I just joined the forum, but I do know several well-regarded members here, and I'll be more than happy to take the car to them for a look and they can post an opinion. I wont put up any names at this time, since I don't want to put anybody "on the spot" and make commitments for them. I'm also more than willing, depending on scheduling, to take it to some cruise nights this summer so anybody can have a look.
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Eclipse Member
Posts: 2040 From: Woodstock, Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2004
Too bad I didn't know about you fellows before. I had my car in paint for more than a month. I'm going to D7 in a few weeks - so using my car is kinda out of the question right now. Like everyone else here says though - having one done will bring business in droves - or at least you'll find out how many of those who have said they want this conversion actually follow through with their original intent. Maybe I could squeeze in a spot in late August so I could show the technology off at the Chop Top Reunion II in September - oh yeah - and at Fierorama.
If you think we can work something out, Chris - just give me a ping. I suspect you'll have sample done well before then - and as I'm in Mississauga and Cambridge that I'll be able to see the workmanship and how well the doors work first hand.
MidEngine - when you get closer - give me a ping - I'd hapilly tag along to see the product first hand.
Dave
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3.8 SC Member
Posts: 577 From: On the Great Lakes-Ohio Registered: Dec 2003
Welcome to the forum! To you and to midengine maniac. I will be keping an eye on this thread. I am very interested. Two questions for you - Do the doors wobble, when they are up? I have seen some kits that wobble, do to thin material used. Two - doesn't aluminum and steel, when put together, corrode and fuse together? How do you keep this from happening?
I have friends up your way, and get there a couple times a year. Next time will probably be the May 2-4 weekend or thereabouts. I'll P-M you when I'll be in the area.
3.8SC Yes, aluminum and steel are a bad mix, but the paint on the frame should provide enough of a barrier to prevent corrosion. I hope, anyway ;-) It seems to work OK with every other aluminum part put on steel car parts.
I have friends up your way, and get there a couple times a year. Next time will probably be the May 2-4 weekend or thereabouts. I'll P-M you when I'll be in the area.
3.8SC Yes, aluminum and steel are a bad mix, but the paint on the frame should provide enough of a barrier to prevent corrosion. I hope, anyway ;-) It seems to work OK with every other aluminum part put on steel car parts.
they are made out of steel and aluminum, the part that bolts to the car is most likely steel, the weld on kit has to be anyway..
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Eclipse Member
Posts: 2040 From: Woodstock, Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2004
Sorry for the delay been away the last couple of days. To DrCPU we would be happy to set something up with you in the summer.
As for the two questions posted by 3.8 SC. The arms do not wobble due to two things. Firstly we use 1/2" thick steel for the arm that raises the door vertically, secondly we have an adjustable pinch point that applies pressure to the arm, which takes away any room for the arm to wobble. Also for the corrosion, the chassis plate that mounts to the car is made of steel, the hinge holder is made of aluminum and depending on the product you purchase the hinge is either made of steel or aluminum. The steel hinge is also Bright Zinc plated to prevent corrosion.
We are also just setting up our new location in London and would be happy to have anyone swing by once we are set up and ready, also we will have some customers vehicles at the London Auto Expo, as well as our Title Sponsored car. So anyone interested will be able to see the kits in action there.
Thanks,
Chris Wesley Xtreme-Doors
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Feb 17th, 2007
DrCPU Member
Posts: 708 From: North Dumfries, On, Canada Registered: Jan 2004
From what I gather, they are busy setting up a new location which will be open to the public. If anybody has ever tried that sort of thing, you know what kind of work and time is involved, and how many wrong descions can be made along the way and need to be reversed and re-thought.
OTOH, its been over a week, almost 2, since I called, and P-M's and I've been completely ignored. Not so much as a return phone call (which takes 2 minutes) or a return PM (which takes 90 seconds)
This is not making me very confident.
But, Like I said, I know the guy is up to his eyeballs in busy, so I'll cut some slack.
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03:50 PM
Cajun Member
Posts: 1565 From: Youngsville, La., USA Registered: Dec 2003
I'm like you a bit concerned about their none responsiveness. I was, stilll am very interested in the development of these doors and being made available to all Fiero owners. Hopefully you will keep all posted on any developments if and when you are contacted. I did recall Extreme indicating a March time frame.
Best of Luck Mike
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Feb 20th, 2007
Xtreme-Doors Member
Posts: 85 From: London, Canada Registered: Feb 2007
Sorry about the delay in responses, we are indeed setting up our new location (not to mention in the process of Engineering and Manufacturing the kits for the MX-3 community) so needless to say we are quite busy at this point.
MidEngineManiac, yes I received your message and I have contacted you thru a PM that I sent you. I told you we would be looking to set up a date in March and that we would call you soon. The reason being that we cannot really call and schedule things with you until we can see how the shop is coming along and the kind of time frame we are looking at. So that is the reason for no call to this point. Again though you will be receiving a call from us when we know a better time frame as to when we can schedule you.
Cajun, the last time we posted was on the 16th. We apologize for the slow responses, but with all that is going on we do our best to get to everything in a fair time frame. That is also correct about the March time frame. Once we have a better idea when the shop will be ready to go, we will then contact those interested.
Once this procedure is underway it should take no more then 2 - 3 weeks before we have the kits manufactured and ready to go. And we will provide a link on the website where all interested can view the progress.
Thanks again,
Chris Wesley Xtreme-Doors
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Cajun Member
Posts: 1565 From: Youngsville, La., USA Registered: Dec 2003
Thanks Chris for your update. It's without question that we all are patiently waiting to see what your product will look like and of course the test models performance.
Mike
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Feb 27th, 2007
Saxman Member
Posts: 5151 From: Melbourne, FL Registered: May 2005
Eclipse You being not too far from Taylor Street in London Jay maybe you can cruise in and have a look around and maybe put a face to Chris 's font and give a little reassurance to any skeptics that may still be out here . I thought Taylor was all residential from Grovenor all the way to Huron St
If all is on the up and up ....Im ready for paint but will hold off till i get a kit ( i have been looking around and doing some homework on VDC.and very interested) Dare to be a lil different
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Xtreme-Doors Member
Posts: 85 From: London, Canada Registered: Feb 2007
Our new location is 958 Leathorne St Unit 9, right at the end of the building. We are still in the process of moving in, but once moved in, we would be more then happy to have anyone swing by. For those that contacted me about supplying us with your car, we are still interested and will be making calls very soon.
wish I could swing by, and a bit of advice for the extreme crew... you have a product that virtually every car owner can love and most can want pace yourself ior you'll bury yourself so far in backorders and productions that you wont see a break for abouta year... its all about PACE I have screwed myself before with tattoo apointments for clients and spent my whole 6months off time tattooing and got no beach time but I could see it when I looked out the front shop window...
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02:47 PM
MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
Been checking back several times on this topic...I would purchase a kit if:
1- It is priced right 2- It fits right 3- It's durable 4- The door (and window) seal properly 5- Bolt in...optional, but better
Would like an update, including any potential time frame for ordering. I am in upstate NY, My car is in storage, but could be taken to the shop if needed. E-mail me or post here.
Thanks, Dave
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Australian Member
Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
Seems finally a bolt on door system for fiero so how much to Sydney Australia? What do we get for $600 how much for auto door locks etc? Can i get a basic price and an Automatic price delivered to Australia?
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Mar 7th, 2007
Xtreme-Doors Member
Posts: 85 From: London, Canada Registered: Feb 2007
We are just about set up at our shop and ready to begin working with someone to get this product developed. Once we have the car at our shop we will take the measurements needed, and have the kit designed. Then it will take about 1 - 2 weeks to manufacture the kit, and after that it will be ready to be installed. These applications will also be a completely bolt-on design.
As for shipping to Sydney Australia, it would cost roughly $130 for shipping. With the $600 product you will receive hinges for both sides, gas shocks, wiring extensions and all mounting hardware needed. So total price would be $730 with shipping included. As for our automatic kit it would run you an additional $400 - $650 depending on the options you wanted.
Thanks again,
Chris Wesley
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Rare87GT Member
Posts: 5068 From: Wichita, KS USA Registered: Oct 2001
just in looking for updates on this matter ......wish i still lived in london .i would go there myself...then i could move from impatiently waiting to patiently waiting ....spring is comming fast although we still have 7 foot snowbanks up here...i might have to catch the fall for ordering as im waiting on this to continue for paint..having said that .....Chris....from time of order.....what timeframe are you expecting for completion of manufacturing cuz i can probably arrange for someone to pick up for me
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Mar 10th, 2007
twocoda Member
Posts: 159 From: Port Elgin,Ontario,Canada Registered: Feb 2006
Chris and boys arent real good at returning phone calls, PM's or e-mails.
I thinks I am stepping out of this endevour. I know they are busy, but what doest it take to PM? what does it take to phone? This is the 10th of march--so much for the late feb/early march timetable. I would have waited untill next march, if theyt had just comunicated.
and they want me to leave my car with them---sorry, but trust is something that is built. And to be honest, since this thread 1st showed up, I have had absoloutley zero contact with this company. Chris has never phoned me (he has my number), never p-m'd me and never e-mailed me.
If thats the way they work at comunications, how long will it take to get actual work done.?
If somebody else want to give them a car, I suspect you are in for a world of hurt. Personally, this shop will touch my car when hell freezes over.
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DrCPU Member
Posts: 708 From: North Dumfries, On, Canada Registered: Jan 2004
Not making any excuses for them. There is a fair sized Performance Car show in TO this weekend. I'd bet they have a booth there. Still a PM or call doesn't take long. I chuckled on the hell freezing over bit - as there are no other alternatives yet. We had a great day here today +40 or so - so either hell is heating up or spring is here at last !!
MadCurl is making progress in Florida, Maybe we'll have something available to us up here if we just stay patient.
I'll wait until this summer. Should be enough time for them to get established. The London group has a meet in June - so I can always just tootle over to their shop then and take a look.
Dave (7 more sleeps til D7 - for me!)
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04:28 PM
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MidEngineManiac Member
Posts: 29566 From: Some unacceptable view Registered: Feb 2007
After discussing this with my wife this morning, what I am still willing to do (at no cost whatsoever) is bring you the car on a Saturday or Sunday of your choosing (my days off) and you can take all the measurements and pics you need. Mostly because you seem to have a decent product, and the Fiero community badly needs a true bolt-on VDC at a reasonable price.
What I can't do is leave the car. I hope you understand, but the comunications issue is a BIG one for me (see the bad suppliers thread) and I have personally been burned by shops in the past, and the lack of communication is a sign that sets my warning bells ringing. Had I listened to my warning bells last time I would have saved myself a court action to recover my car.
Then, come summer or early fall, once you have hinges in stock I'll be buying a set from you ;-)
I am not far from London & as I have some family there, I could make some time commitments over one weekend or two if previous set ups/arrangements do not work out.
I can make a visit to the vendor's facilities, meet the people involved, have a car measured & try to get some visuals & concerns answered objectively for my fellow forum members once an installation is completed & tested.
It's an investment that will result in an objective yaye or naye review of the product, service & customer support, but another option nevertheless.
I am not far from London & as I have some family there, I could make some time commitments over one weekend or two if previous set ups/arrangements do not work out.
I can make a visit to the vendor's facilities, meet the people involved, have a car measured & try to get some visuals & concerns answered objectively for my fellow forum members once an installation is completed & tested.
It's an investment that will result in an objective yaye or naye review of the product, service & customer support, but another option nevertheless.
Let me know at your convenience.
------------------ 1985 RED & SILVER GT 2.8 V6
Admission of the day: I enjoy having sex.
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03:57 PM
Eclipse Member
Posts: 2040 From: Woodstock, Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2004
I have a set of doors and hinges in my garage that I have offered for measure ments and testing. I am hoping to get togetheriwht Chris soon. I'll be stopping by the shop in person.
I had my installer review this type of hinge and he said no go. According to "fierogtrouge" he has them on his '88 GT... I'm stilling waiting for his reply and pics.... Seem like I'll wait forever.
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not really!
Seem like I'll wait forever. 
