I would have taken the 90 with a V8 and change the rear just a little bit and *POOF* the us version of an NSX but better imho cause a V8 90 Fiero would be cheaper than the NSX
and lets not forget Fiero starts with "F" maybe hence the term "F-Body" for Fiero-Body Gen4? need sleep and less meds 103.2* fever finaly caught me
:::EDIT::: I Pwn Page 2 on teh 90
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yes i want the 90 body more than the 86 fastback it looks so much cleaner if i could buy that red 90 that goes to all the shows i would give them anything for it. the only thing i would change on it is the spoiler it needs to be more aggressive... i cant spell.
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Unsafe At Any Speed Member
Posts: 2299 From: Cheyenne, WY Registered: Feb 2003
i kno that that is nt the car and i wouldnt want it choped. but i am gonna try to find some way to replacate that body... just need some money first. within the next 2 years i will have a kit made
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davikan Member
Posts: 688 From: Las Vegas, NV USA Registered: Jul 2005
Originally posted by Ian D: Personally, I don't think the 1990 Proto Type can even be associated with a Fiero GT. It should be categorized with a Firebird or Trans Am, never a Fiero.
I love the 1988 Fiero GT. The lines of the 88 Fiero GT just call out my name, and make my heart start thumping.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Sure, as mentioned above, our perception of the 2nd generation Fiero is tainted from knowing where those styling cues wound up. But to my eye, a fastback has a classic look that early 90's f-bodys don't have. Then again, I love notchies too. I have both an Indy and an '88 GT sitting in my garage, and it never ceases to amaze me how they both still have staying power with me. I still look at either one and get a rush. Most cars don't do that to me - - the 1990 proto included.
It seems too big to be a Fiero.
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kwagner Member
Posts: 4258 From: Pittsburgh, PA Registered: Apr 2005
I love the design on the 90, at least we got to enjoy some of its cues on the 4th gen F-bodies (I've got one -- next best thing to a '90 Fiero I guess).
I think the Fiero would have been a good contender for GM's Quad4 engines in the mid/early 90s. I know that engine series had some issues, but they were overcomeable (Higher quality headgaskets anyone?), and that was a SWEET series of 4-poppers. Continuing on this odd alternate timeline, when the Ecotecs came out, it's a fairly natural option for a small-lightweight sporty car. Oh, wait, they did that, just put the engine in the wrong end
Either that or continue to use the 60 degree 6ers to keep costs down since they still use the 60-degree all over the place.
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IROCTAFIERO Member
Posts: 791 From: Montgomery, Al USA Registered: May 2005
I believe that if the 90's prototype went into production with the prototype turbo variant of the V6, it would end up being a tuner favorite like the 90's Supra and RX-7. Think of what the Fiero community could have been with this scenario........
I'd take 88 over 90 (regarding looks) any day. The 90 looks so much more dated than our GTs. With a few mods and our cars don't appear to be strait from the 80's. The 90 prototype looks so 90's to me. Our GT also has much more exotic lines.
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Posts: 419 From: Michigan Fiero Club Registered: Jan 2007
I love the 1989-90 prototype. The Fiero story is a sad story of how big business didn't listen to the public as closely as they should have! They're ads said "Pontiac excitement" but it should have said "Big profit fast or else"! The car was well on the way to being the car of the 90's but dollars and sense killed it. look at that prototype's body shape compared to the Mustang and Challenger today and you would have to admit that the Fiero has it all over those guys! For those people that didn't see the video you missed a real treat. It went into detail of all the improvements that were going to blow you away. I'll look to see if I can find that video.
Originally posted by jscott1: Look at the bottom drawing...ever notice that the concept cars are always chopped??
That bottom pic looks like the Banshee concept that Pontiac built around the same time as the Corvette Indy concept. The Banshee was used for KITT in Knight Rider 2000 also. Much better than the new Mustang Knight Rider they have.
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Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Personally I'd take the 1990 concept over the 1988 GT. The concept has a semi wide body and bigger/wider rims whereas our 88 IMO are in need of major tweaking.
Personally I'd take the 1990 concept over the 1988 GT. The concept has a semi wide body and bigger/wider rims whereas our 88 IMO are in need of major tweaking.
I think we all know that if the 1990 was made and you got one madcurl, you would have done some major tweaking to it too
Heck, that would be a good username for him: Major Tweaking.
------------------ ~Michael Project IMSA Formula Coming Soon! '85 GT 4sp white - SOLD | | '85 2M6 Auto red - SOLD | | '84 2M4 bare chassis - SOLD Crap, I'm out of Fieros! Time to buy another!! - "Your mileage may vary."
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hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
The 1988 would not have aged as well if the Fiero continued as the design would not have been frozen and as it evolved I feel it would have aged more. When ever there is something new or better it ages the past model.
It is hard to compare the 1990 as it was used on a much larger car and in a way it did continue.
I just never like the fast back as I saw the PPG pace car team cars first . I liked their duck tail deck lids and rear side scoopes more. As well as at the time I liked the beaked nose. The nose later did age but the duck tail, coupe tail ight and side scoopes still look very fresh.
The GT fastback reminds me of a Chevy Monza with out the rear hatch more than a Ferrari. They needed to at least tint the quarter glass.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
The 1988 would not have aged as well if the Fiero continued as the design would not have been frozen and as it evolved I feel it would have aged more. When ever there is something new or better it ages the past model.
Maybe, maybe not. The C4 Corvettes and 3rd gen Trans Ams of the same era still look good to me. I think some designs are timeless.
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hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
Maybe, maybe not. The C4 Corvettes and 3rd gen Trans Ams of the same era still look good to me. I think some designs are timeless.
The C4 is really looking aged at this point with the hard lines of the car and the first gen dash makes it as stylish as a Saturday Night Fever Suit. The Softer lines of the C5 are holding up a little better.
The Later 3rd Gen F bodies held up better but the first couple years were weak. The Solid disk wheels just never caught on. Once they put the blosck off panels in the nose it cleaned the car up well.
It is all subjective and just my veiw.
I just feel as a whole the Fiero death has locked in it feel and tone of styling as it never declined. Kind of like an old race driver vs one who dies in his prime. Petty may have been a great driver for years but many will only remember his last years when he hung on too long vs Earnhardt who dies when he was still competitive. One is no better than the other buy preception means everything.
The bottom line is we never saw a bad Fiero. It went out on top.