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1990 Proto Type vs. 1988 GT ??? by Ian D
Started on: 02-11-2007 05:10 PM
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Report this Post02-15-2007 03:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jack_inkClick Here to visit jack_ink's HomePageSend a Private Message to jack_inkDirect Link to This Post
I would have taken the 90 with a V8 and change the rear just a little bit and *POOF* the us version of an NSX but better imho cause a V8 90 Fiero would be cheaper than the NSX

and lets not forget Fiero starts with "F" maybe hence the term "F-Body" for Fiero-Body Gen4? need sleep and less meds 103.2* fever finaly caught me


:::EDIT::: I Pwn Page 2 on teh 90

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Report this Post02-15-2007 03:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Black86gtFastbackClick Here to visit Black86gtFastback's HomePageSend a Private Message to Black86gtFastbackDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by jscott1:

How about a chopped and dropped 1990??



does anyone know where i could get this body kit?
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Are you serious?
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yes i want the 90 body more than the 86 fastback it looks so much cleaner if i could buy that red 90 that goes to all the shows i would give them anything for it. the only thing i would change on it is the spoiler it needs to be more aggressive... i cant spell.

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Report this Post02-15-2007 10:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Unsafe At Any SpeedSend a Private Message to Unsafe At Any SpeedDirect Link to This Post
That picture that you quoted is a photoshop. Also, no kit even similar to it exsists. As for buying the red one, talk to GM.
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the 90 prototype any day, but first order of business would be to replace the god-awful look of the headlamps
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Originally posted by Ian D:
Who here would have bought a 1990 GT if what we know to be the Proto Type, became the 1990 Fiero GT production car?

What exactly is the question?
I have an 84 SE, an 86 coupe, an 86 GT, an 87 GT, an 88 GT T top. Of course I would buy one. .

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

I'd also rather have the '90



ME TOO!
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i kno that that is nt the car and i wouldnt want it choped. but i am gonna try to find some way to replacate that body... just need some money first. within the next 2 years i will have a kit made
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Originally posted by Ian D:
Personally, I don't think the 1990 Proto Type can even be associated with a Fiero GT. It should be categorized with a Firebird or Trans Am, never a Fiero.

I love the 1988 Fiero GT. The lines of the 88 Fiero GT just call out my name, and make my heart start thumping.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Sure, as mentioned above, our perception of the 2nd generation Fiero is tainted from knowing where those styling cues wound up. But to my eye, a fastback has a classic look that early 90's f-bodys don't have. Then again, I love notchies too. I have both an Indy and an '88 GT sitting in my garage, and it never ceases to amaze me how they both still have staying power with me. I still look at either one and get a rush. Most cars don't do that to me - - the 1990 proto included.

It seems too big to be a Fiero.

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Report this Post05-02-2008 11:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kwagnerClick Here to visit kwagner's HomePageSend a Private Message to kwagnerDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cliffw:

What exactly is the question?
I have an 84 SE, an 86 coupe, an 86 GT, an 87 GT, an 88 GT T top. Of course I would buy one. .



You have something against 85s?
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I love the design on the 90, at least we got to enjoy some of its cues on the 4th gen F-bodies (I've got one -- next best thing to a '90 Fiero I guess).

I think the Fiero would have been a good contender for GM's Quad4 engines in the mid/early 90s. I know that engine series had some issues, but they were overcomeable (Higher quality headgaskets anyone?), and that was a SWEET series of 4-poppers. Continuing on this odd alternate timeline, when the Ecotecs came out, it's a fairly natural option for a small-lightweight sporty car. Oh, wait, they did that, just put the engine in the wrong end

Either that or continue to use the 60 degree 6ers to keep costs down since they still use the 60-degree all over the place.
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Report this Post05-02-2008 01:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IROCTAFIEROSend a Private Message to IROCTAFIERODirect Link to This Post
I like any non bumperpad fiero, but the 90 is so freaking hot!!!!!!!!!!!
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Report this Post05-02-2008 01:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
90's looks bloated, not nimble. The wheel base looks too short. You can guess I don't like the Firebirds/Camaros either, though.

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hell sign me up for both!!!
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I believe that if the 90's prototype went into production with the prototype turbo variant of the V6, it would end up being a tuner favorite like the 90's Supra and RX-7. Think of what the Fiero community could have been with this scenario........
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I looove the '90. I think it looks like an NSX and a Fiero mixed, and it just.... does something for me.


And personally, I think sometime far down the road Pontiac will open up the time capsul and re-do the Fiero.
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I'd take 88 over 90 (regarding looks) any day. The 90 looks so much more dated than our GTs. With a few mods and our cars don't appear to be strait from the 80's. The 90 prototype looks so 90's to me. Our GT also has much more exotic lines.
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For all of you 90 Fiero fans, it will be on display at the 25th Anniversary show in July. A short 2 months away!!!!!

Click on the links below for more information..................ARE YOU GOING?

P.S. It is one of 9 GM prototypes that will be at the show.


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Official 25th Web Page

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I love the 1989-90 prototype. The Fiero story is a sad story of how big business didn't listen to the public as closely as they should have! They're ads said "Pontiac excitement" but it should have said "Big profit fast or else"! The car was well on the way to being the car of the 90's but dollars and sense killed it. look at that prototype's body shape compared to the Mustang and Challenger today and you would have to admit that the Fiero has it all over those guys! For those people that didn't see the video you missed a real treat. It went into detail of all the improvements that were going to blow you away. I'll look to see if I can find that video.
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Originally posted by jscott1:
Look at the bottom drawing...ever notice that the concept cars are always chopped??


That bottom pic looks like the Banshee concept that Pontiac built around the same time as the Corvette Indy concept. The Banshee was used for KITT in Knight Rider 2000 also. Much better than the new Mustang Knight Rider they have.
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Personally I'd take the 1990 concept over the 1988 GT. The concept has a semi wide body and bigger/wider rims whereas our 88 IMO are in need of major tweaking.

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Originally posted by madcurl:

Personally I'd take the 1990 concept over the 1988 GT. The concept has a semi wide body and bigger/wider rims whereas our 88 IMO are in need of major tweaking.



I think we all know that if the 1990 was made and you got one madcurl, you would have done some major tweaking to it too
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Heck, that would be a good username for him: Major Tweaking.

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The 1988 would not have aged as well if the Fiero continued as the design would not have been frozen and as it evolved I feel it would have aged more. When ever there is something new or better it ages the past model.

It is hard to compare the 1990 as it was used on a much larger car and in a way it did continue.

I just never like the fast back as I saw the PPG pace car team cars first . I liked their duck tail deck lids and rear side scoopes more. As well as at the time I liked the beaked nose. The nose later did age but the duck tail, coupe tail ight and side scoopes still look very fresh.

The GT fastback reminds me of a Chevy Monza with out the rear hatch more than a Ferrari. They needed to at least tint the quarter glass.
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Originally posted by hyperv6:

The 1988 would not have aged as well if the Fiero continued as the design would not have been frozen and as it evolved I feel it would have aged more. When ever there is something new or better it ages the past model.


Maybe, maybe not. The C4 Corvettes and 3rd gen Trans Ams of the same era still look good to me. I think some designs are timeless.
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Originally posted by jscott1:


Maybe, maybe not. The C4 Corvettes and 3rd gen Trans Ams of the same era still look good to me. I think some designs are timeless.


The C4 is really looking aged at this point with the hard lines of the car and the first gen dash makes it as stylish as a Saturday Night Fever Suit. The Softer lines of the C5 are holding up a little better.

The Later 3rd Gen F bodies held up better but the first couple years were weak. The Solid disk wheels just never caught on. Once they put the blosck off panels in the nose it cleaned the car up well.

It is all subjective and just my veiw.

I just feel as a whole the Fiero death has locked in it feel and tone of styling as it never declined. Kind of like an old race driver vs one who dies in his prime. Petty may have been a great driver for years but many will only remember his last years when he hung on too long vs Earnhardt who dies when he was still competitive. One is no better than the other buy preception means everything.

The bottom line is we never saw a bad Fiero. It went out on top.

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