quote Originally posted by Kyle1016: And craig, i see the picture for what the extra tube is for, the flame coming out . But what exactly is it for? lol Either way amazing job fabricating the headers to fit! Keep the pictures coming Dominik Kyle

Its just basicly to show off. You don't get any gains out of it. It just looks cool.
Thanks for the compliment on the headers.

Now who owns the third page

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Your headers look like some fun, however, they come down in the wrong place unless you just going to plumb straight pipes out.

I've been designing some custom long headers at 33" for primaries, and the fit to actually get mufflers in is a real problem. The reason I am using 33" primaries is that the formula for header design calls for that length with the Crane 2030 cam I'm using. On N/A the headers can make up to 17 hp gain when designed properly. A very good gain IMHO. Other headers might get you more around 10-12.

My carb'd 2.8 dyno'd at 132 at the wheels with a tired block, and the motor I am currently building, is planned for the 175 range with more low end torque.

With the work you are doing on the heads and the intake setup, you can make close to 200, however, the porting job on the heads needs to be carefully done and you will benefit from a 3 or 5 angle valve grind.

The other issue is clearance. You are going to run out of room up top unless you cut a scoop.

Nice build thread and a real nice project.

Arn

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Arn thanks for a reply.

the exhaust will be a true dual exhaust custom made by Craig. I am sure he will make it fit.

I was wandering about the hight of the carb and the air filter. Do you have any pics of how much it was sticking out?

Also, on the 24th F-I-E-R-O's badge arrived....






looks smaller than i thought but it is beautiful
now i have to figure out where its going to be placed.

Hello everyone !

I just received PFF stickers from IMSA GT. These look more original for me. That is the first set made. I feel honored
The quality is awesome and these stick good too. I cant wait to put one on my fiero.

Thanks Adam !

here are some pics.





dominik

You are very welcome. Let me know if there is anything else you need.

Those look Great Adam.

I am getting a couple of them from Dominik and will proudly display them on my Fieros.

Craig

Thank you ...... I sent you a PM.

Dominik, I knew I had a picture of your car back when Lisa owned it around here somewhere. Tonight, I was looking for some other pics, and found it....so I thought I'd post it here for you. This was taken at the last FOCOA meet at Osage Beach, and Lisa is standing next to the car, waiting to take it through judging. I know I have some others...I'll have to look and see if I can find them.

wow this car looked clean

rims look almost white.

Thanks for the pic, i have to add it to my collection.

I love my fiero

hey guys, long time no see

Here is a little update. Craig was taking care of my heads...
before...


after....






spark plug wires

cradle bushings

distributor


dominik

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Hi guys

Its below 0 degress here in Chicago area so no huge updates. I talked to Craig today and we decided to upgrate the regular water pump to the electric one. I will also get more powerful chrome alternator.

So, what are your opinions if any on the electic water pumps installed on 2.8's. Any pros or cons?????

dominik

Hello

I got an update. Me and Craig were talking... discussing..... cracking numbers.....

Well i have almost 2,200 bucks in parts for the 2.8..... And for those who follow another of Craig's builds his V8 will cost about

the same as my 2.8.... so we were talking and talking.......

And you will not believe what is the result of all the thinking.


Yes... i will be joining the V8 family shortly......

It will be another (screamer) like the one he is building here

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/087711.html

On Friday I will pick up the 305....

pics to come

dominik

Yes, this build took a big turn. After talking with Dominik over the last couple months I new that this 2.8 was not going to satisfy his need for speed. So after figuring out some numbers we came to the agreement that I would basicly buy back the 2.8 from him and build him a nice sbc V8 and install it. Dominik found a 305 near him and sent me the link. After reviewing the link and speaking with the seller Dominik bought the engine. It is a 1989 305 HO out of a Trans Am GTA with 83k on it.





The engine will be rebuilt by me and will put out about 330hp. This build is also a very special build, because this car will be the first to leave the new shop "Fieros Unlimited of Wisconsin" and will be a trademark for future builds.

Craig

well that sure did take a big change lol :P Best of luck with the new build

I am very excited about the V8. I never thought I would have a sbc. I am picking up the engine on Friday and will drive all the way to Wisconsin to Craig's garage.

I am also very proud to own the first Fiero coming out of Fieros Unlimited.

And 330 hp? This will satisfy my "need of speed."

Seriously,I just cant wait to drive it, be stuck in traffic, fill it up, wash it, see looks on my friend's faces, the list goes on and on and on........

I will post some pics on Friday evening.

dominik

Ok I was a little curious about my V8. I did some reaserch and came up with couple choices.

1989 IROC-Z Formula Trans Am GTA LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) HP - 230@4600 TQ - 300@3200

1989 IROC-Z Formula Trans Am LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) HP - 220@4400 TQ - 290@3200

1989 IROC-Z Formula Trans Am LB9 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) HP - 195@4000 TQ - 295@2800

1989 IROC-Z Formula Trans Am LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) HP - 170@4400 TQ - 255@2400

1989 RS Firebird LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) HP - 170@4400 TQ - 255@2400

Source: http://www.thirdgen.org/1989-pontiac-firebird

Well, there is only one GTA on the list so I'm assuming that is the one i will have in my Fiero.

Am i correct here? I'm in the library and have nothing better to do.

dominik

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Ok guys, I just got back from Wisconsin.

I picked up the engine today.....



.... and yes, it is a Toyota Matrix. Who needs a truck?


and here is it my V8 in Craig's garage.

I also bought a shiny oil pan, you like?



The engine has to spend the night in the garage, soon it will be comfy in the basement where rebulding will take place.
The block will be read as well as the tranny.
The only thing I am worried about is how long will the stock clutch hold. I won't race the car so hopefully it will last a while.

dominik

Hey guys

Here is a little update...
First Stage - tearing down the engine






dominik

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I have an 87' GTA with that motor.. Should make for a fun little fiero. I like my fieros cammed though.. 4x the cam fun.

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Chase Wakeham,
Concept Fabrications

Craig just sent me couple pictures of freshly arrived parts. These just can't wait to be installed...
















and cam specs

Operating Range 1500-6500 RPM
Duration Advertised 308° Intake/318° Exhaust
Duration @ .050'' 234° Intake/244° Exhaust
Lift @ Valve .488'' Intake/.510'' Exhaust
Lift @ Cam .325'' Intake/.340'' Exhaust
Lobe Separation Angle 112°
Intake Centerline 107°
Intake Timing @ .050" Open 10° BTDC
Close 44° ABDC
Exhaust Timing @ .050" Open 59° BBDC
Close 5° ATDC


dominik

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I started to tear down the lower half of the engine and found it had a couple spun rod bearings.




It tore up the crank pretty good as well:




This did not concern me that much, because we intended on using a nice new Scat Crank anyway:








So I continued to remove the pistons and crank:




All the mains are good and within specs:






Cleaned all of the gasket surfaces and then cleaned up the block to get it ready for the cylinder work:












Getting the heads ready for the port and polish:




More work to come next weekend....

Craig

Hello, parts keep arriving........









there are still more coming....

dominik

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Looking good! Dominik, are you planning on coming to the 25th? You have to give me a ride, and cruise Woodward, and stomp my buddies fire bird.

Craig, you must have been blasted with snow, we got a ton, and are getting more tonight. My aunt said she got 22 inches in Madison.

Keep on posting, good thread!

quote Originally posted by Kyle1016: Craig, you must have been blasted with snow, we got a ton, and are getting more tonight. My aunt said she got 22 inches in Madison.

Blasted with snow is not the word for it. I have my fastback next to yours behind the car port, and they now look like a small ski hill. I had to have a company come and remove snow piles from the shop because I ran out of room. I am begining to REALLY HATE SNOW!!!!!!! We just got hit again today with about 7 more inches. This sucks.

Guys, couple more weeks and the snow will be gone. We'll hit the road in our Fieros....... windows down.... loud engines... people looking around....... sweet. Can't wait.

in the mean time, the Archie's kit arrived today.




dominik

vacuum gauge arrived today !



dominik

Your putting a V8, carbeurated none-the-less and you are putting in an MPG guage??? Why?

quote Originally posted by Mr.PBody: Your putting a V8, carbeurated none-the-less and you are putting in an MPG guage??? Why?

First,
It's not just a MPG gauge. It is a vacuum gauge. A vacuum gauge helps aid in the tuning process and is a vital gauge for engine monitoring. A vacuum gauge can tell you alot about how the engine is running and performing.

Second,
A well tuned V8 will get the same mpg if not better than the stock 2.8 if you keep your foot out of it, whether it be a FI setup or a carb setup.

Craig

I am really enjoying this thread.
Dumb question, but one I have been trying to find the answer to since I've seen Lisa with this Fiero.
What kind of rims are those and where can I get a set?

I am trying to decide on new rims for my Blue GT and I have always loved those.

quote Originally posted by Ayrow: I am really enjoying this thread. Dumb question, but one I have been trying to find the answer to since I've seen Lisa with this Fiero. What kind of rims are those and where can I get a set? I am trying to decide on new rims for my Blue GT and I have always loved those.

Here is a link to the rims that he has.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Craig

Craig, those are not rims I have.

I still have the receipt for those. Lisa passed it on to the next owner, and then I got it.
Hold on a minute, let me dig through it...

dominik

Edit: nvm

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I was getting 15mpg with my 2.8 in the city.

I will be satisfied with anything over that

dominik

quote Originally posted by dozol: Craig, those are not rims I have. I still have the receipt for those. Lisa passed it on to the next owner, and then I got it. Hold on a minute, let me dig through it... dominik

Those are identical to yours, except the center cap is different.

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wow, yea pretty close.

I like mine better

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