Are the all black window switches and the switches on the dash an indy thing or an 84' thing. I like the look of the black ones over the gray but i didnt no if just the head light switches were black on 84s or all of them.

it's an 84 thing.

I am curious. Are the arm rests on Indy's real leather? Or a plastic derivitive? Tell me, leather or not?

Cordially,
Kevin

Thanks for the pics. That's what I was looking for. Also, one thing I didn't notice before - the shift knob has only 3 seams. I thought they had 4. I will pass that on to the upholsterer. Thanks for that one, too! A plus to you.

quote Originally posted by Toddster: And another Fiero owner falls to the temptation to buy more than one. Welcome to the dark side my son.

The "falls to the temptation to buy more than one" part I've obviously proven correct.
The dark side part? Eh... not so much. I like to think of it more like "embracing the true power of the light side."

I'm Jedi all the way, even though I have no problem making occasional guerilla attack runs on the dark side's desert cart... Mmm... Sith Cookies... Tasty!

quote Originally posted by kevin: I am curious. Are the arm rests on Indy's real leather? Or a plastic derivitive? Tell me, leather or not? Cordially, Kevin

I have NO idea. How can I tell the difference?

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: I am doing an Indy clone

Which brings me to another question: are there any threads here on Pennock's about completed Indy Clones? I'd especially like to hear about it if someone's taken an '88 GT, converted it into a notchie, and painted/upholstered/decaled it to be indestinguishable from an Indy, except in the engine compartment. I'd LOVE to see a Indy clone stomping fart-can equipped ricers.

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If I ever get my digicam to work, I will post a bunch of pics with progress. But, mine is a straight-up 84 clone... 84 SE with aero body panels on it, and cloned engine trim. Got the engine nearly done, now have to order seat covers from Mr Mikes and carpet. A friend is going to do the paint, and I already have the decals. Hoping to have it done by spring.

I HATE IT when dealerships put those dippie little plastic nameplates on the rear edge of a car's trunk.

How do I get one off my Indy without damaging the paint?

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quote Originally posted by davikan: I HATE IT when dealerships put those dippie little plastic nameplates on the rear edge of a car's trunk. How do I get one off my Indy without damaging the paint?

Heat Gun or hair dryer to warm the plate & the area around it
slide the dental floss under the plate, and work it side to side..slowly. this should break the plate loose. Pick off the remainder foam with your fingers. Clean up with a little "goo gone" & then wax the area. Use unwaxed Dental floss if you can get it.

quote Originally posted by davikan: Where can I get top quality door and glare strip stickers for the Indy? Only one door sticker arrived. This is the one mod I've decided to do. She looks a little naked for a Pace Car.

You might also try www.fierosails.com In the 2nd paragraph, click Decals and scroll down to the Indy decals.

Ooooooohhhhh she's purdy Looks like it never had the recall work done. What's with the big red cap on the AC high-side fitting, has the AC been converted to R134a?



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Great car. If in the far-off future, you ever want to sell, drop me a line first if you want. I'll probably still be collecting low mile Fieros (and other interesting cars)...
Ryan

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88 GT 5-Speed...5K orig
88 GT 5-Speed...16K orig
88 GT Auto...42K orig
88 Formula 5-Speed...87K, silver.
87 GT 5-Speed, Blue...18K orig
87 GT 5-Speed...55K orig

quote Originally posted by RRobinson: Great car. If in the far-off future, you ever want to sell, drop me a line first if you want. I'll probably still be collecting low mile Fieros (and other interesting cars)... Ryan

I don't blame you for asking, but not likely, as I'm following in your footsteps! I'm nuts for low-mileage Fieros too. Unfortunately, I only have two so far, so I'm obviously not thinking of getting rid of either one!

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quote Originally posted by craigsfiero2007: Heat Gun or hair dryer to warm the plate & the area around it slide the dental floss under the plate, and work it side to side..slowly. this should break the plate loose. Pick off the remainder foam with your fingers. Clean up with a little "goo gone" & then wax the area. Use unwaxed Dental floss if you can get it.

The hair dryer suggestion worked GREAT. Thank you! I didn't even need the dental floss. The adhesive strip came off with my fingers, and the residue cleaned up with a little spit!

I haven't had posted much of anything regarding my new Indy since I got her: I've had an insane schedule of late. Still, here's a picture of my babies, side-by-side. Aint' they purdy?!?!?

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Good looking engine bay. Very very clean!!!!
Mine will not look that good for a long time. Gotta get the 88 finished and road worthy 1st, do something with Jane's 84, ( I think her brother is going to buy it) and some long needed interior work on my 84--all before I can do anything else.

My lil 84 has not been through the recalls and it's just fine. Just make sure that the oil is full. There is one part of the recals dealing with the e brake. Where the rear pads would ware and the self adjusting calipers would not hold the car when the ebrake is pulled. They also removed the weather stripping on the decklid, and bolted on some heat shields as well. I haven't had too many problems with my lil 84. I say leave it as is. In my opinion finding an 84 that has not gone through the recalls is kinda rare.

That's a really nice looking car and in superb condition to boot. Mind you it's got some competition from that Aston but there again I bet there's a bit of a difference in the price too.
I'm still trying to get over the condition of the engine bay. I always wondered what they looked like new, now I know.

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www.ltlfrari.com

its pretty!

quote Originally posted by davikan: Um, yeah: I'm quoting myself. Can anyone give me some guidance on this?

the big part of the recall was related to a limited number of 1984 cars that got a bad batch of weak connecting rods. If/when they failed, a hole was usually punched in the block and it would shoot hot oil onto the exhaust and result in the burning. the service bulletin called for certain cars within an appropriate range to receive a replacement shortblock or have the potentially defective rods replaced, depending on availability. (Note, it makes sense that some indy's could have had the defective rods as I have seen a lower mileage, approx 40k, indy with an engine that had the goodwrench sticker on the engine... the original owner had passed on though so there's no concrete proof why the engine was changed)

the kits later put out in the package from GM and the other recall mods were designed to help prevent fires, in the event of any other related failures which could also put combustable materials onto the manifold.

the single easiest way to tell if a duke car had the recall is the presence of a metal shield between the exhaust manifold and the cylinder head, you really cant miss it, its big, other steps like removing the drip strip on the trunk lid and wrapping certain wires in tape, etc, werent necessarily followed that close in some cars I've seen if the recall was done years later on after the publicity died off....

Perhaps someone would say if anyone still had a list of the definitive build dates where duke motors could have received the defective rods, I'm not sure.

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quote Originally posted by 1984whitesc: In my opinion finding an 84 that has not gone through the recalls is kinda rare.

One out of 3 84s that I have, has not had the recall done. 130,000 miles, so I guess it is a moot point now. Yes, I realize the recall is for the life of the car, but if it were going to sling a rod thru the block, I think it would have done it by now.
(knock on wood)

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Oh, and as a side note I know the recall gave a recalibrated dipstick designed to have the owner keep 4 quarts of oil in the car at all future oil changed. Used to have a packet with the full text of it around here, but it did specify using a specific oil filter and 4 quarts of oil, so it may have been different than what the original owners manual would have called for.

Just a little something extra for you to ckeck into FYI...

Original owners manual for one of my 84s says 3 qts. One of the shops I took it to for an oil change also tries to put only 3 qts in it, saying that is what their computer showed, and all but refused to add the 4th qt, until I explained all about the recalls.

I like your taste in cars, namley 88GT's and Indy's



Looking at your house, it looks like the same builder too. I got a chuckle out of that.

You are making me feel bad about bastardizing my cars.

quote Originally posted by Fierobsessed: I like your taste in cars, namley 88GT's and Indy's Looking at your house, it looks like the same builder too. I got a chuckle out of that. You are making me feel bad about bastardizing my cars.

Hmmm... I'm looking at your cars, and although they don't seem completely stock (which I'll admit I am a nut for,) I'd not call them "bastardized" either. They look quite good!

THESE, on the other hand, I'd DEFINATELY call "bastardized":







Then again, they're not my property, so I probably shouldn't ***** about what someone else chose to do with them. (But I *can* have the dry heaves when looking at them, right?)

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Congrats. You've got the two best Yr/Model Fieros to have IMO.

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79 Corolla. ......K&N, polished alternator, high output powersteering pump,
lightweight floormats, NOS stickers, CSS stickers, matching seatcovers, 6in Tip,
racing tape on taillamp, and a personalized front plate Beyotches!!!!

I am glad the 'Indy-cycle' was not an Indy to start with.

Cordially,
Kevin

More on the history of my Indy...

Back in January, I received a letter from the lady whose uncle used to own the car. It was a nice gesture on her part (although a nicer gesture would have been to kick back some of the money she had rebated to her from the dealership that sold me the car!)

(Still, I have to remind myself not to complain: It might have been an expensive purchase, but to sit in my Indy and have my nostrills filled with "brand new car smell" from 1984 --- well, in the end, it's worth it.)

Anyway, here's a cut-and-paste from the e-mail. (I've omitted names and other identifying information.)

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David,
My brother forwarded your pictures of my uncle's car, your car now. And as by the pictures, my uncle wouldn't have wanted it any other way. I am SO HAPPY you are enjoying his car. My son (age 9) said "look mom Uncle's car has a girlfriend (the red car) and a dog!!". Thank you so much for the pictures, they mean a great deal to us. I hope you enjoy the car for many years to come!!

I also wanted to let you know that [the dealership] folks are really great people. After your conversation with my brother and the purchase price and selling price was revealed, I spoke to Mark (from [the dealership] - his daughter goes to school with my son), they ended up giving me another $3000 for the purchase of the car. So I do want to thank you for helping a poor college student fulfill her dream. I finished my bachelors degree in Dec. of "06" and am currently working on my graduate degree in dental hygiene education. I have been a hygienist for 18 years and have started teaching in my field. So your money really did go to help "the Uncle's niece". Thank you.

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I don't know if this interests anyone, but I'm of the opinion that once a car becomes a "survivor" like my Indy, it becomes a bit more than a car. Sure, it's still just a machine, but machines that get infused with the stuff of human family histories take on a little something more.
T.

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quote Originally posted by davikan: (Still, I have to remind myself not to complain: It might have been an expensive purchase, but to sit in my Indy and have my nostrills filled with "brand new car smell" from 1984 --- well, in the end, it's worth it.)

Does your Indy really have "new car smell"? Mine has typical 25 year old Fiero smell. I imagine it would be awesome to sit in a Fiero with new car smell.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Does your Indy really have "new car smell"? Mine has typical 25 year old Fiero smell. I imagine it would be awesome to sit in a Fiero with new car smell.

Yup! Both my Fieros do. But it's a stronger scent in the Indy. (Go figure -- it's the older of the two cars...)

Sniffing it is more addictive than crack.