That rear roof wing would be sexy, I was going to buy one for my E46 but I got rid of it, always wanted one for my fiero. Too bad hes in germany, shipping cost more than my cars.
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kawana Member
Posts: 2329 From: Abbotsford, BC, Canada Registered: May 2007
I never liked the GT nose. And after owning 2 GT's ive learned to tolerate it but I just wish I had options other than the 355 nose. Im interested in any alternatives
It's nice to see Dietmar back in the game. He is a VERY skilled craftsman. That said, if he were to make a Ferrari F360 style front fascia, I'd be all over it.
BTW, I like the seats, too.
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WOW! This is what I was thinking about for bilding my own. One question- what is the measurement between the top of the center opening and the edge where it slopes back. I was wondering if it would fit a license plate without sticking into the center opening. Any price guess? I am definately interested!
I have not looked into this idea further, but it seems to me that there *could* be some opportunity here.
There are a few things to be aware of first: 1. Is Dietmar even willing to consider such an arrangement? 2.Can Dietmar provide a mold for the part(s) to be shipped over here? 3. What about Dietmar and Timo's business relationship? 4. Who would make parts here in the U.S.? 5. What is the "upside", in other words, is it worth it?
I personally think that any sales of such parts is *seriously* hampered by the large shipping costs from Germany to the U.S. Take that international shipping cost out of the equation, and it seems obvious that the sales volume would be greater, but it's still a very small Fiero market. Seems like the "ideal" arrangement still, is to simply make the parts over here where the largest market for them is and for Dietmar / Timo, et al. to realize some appropriate percentage of profit from that. The best arrangement would be to place the mold tooling with someone who is already equipped and set-up to fabricate fiberglass parts, and who might be agreeable to such an arrangement. A few possibilities for that come immediately to mind., (Norm, Doug Kinney, Archie ?)
I have no clue what's going on with Ausfiero's parts, (rockers, quarter panels, etc.), but perhaps a similar arrangement might already be underway?
Just a few of my off-the-top-of-the-head thoughts......
I would be happy to get involved myself, and can think of at least one resource here in Florida that is already set-up to produce the parts and seems eager to engage in the business, but I would ONLY do so IF invited to by either Dietmar and/or Timo.
Randy
Edited again to add: I was planning a trip back over to Dusseldorf and Leverkusen soon and it might be a good time to personally meet with the "players" in this IF they are interested.
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Posts: 1188 From: Plainville,Ct. U.S.A Registered: Oct 2007
this all looks great, but trying to get any of this without waiting for sooooo long is crazy. The news is good but im definatly not getting my hopes up. Kinda teasing the dogs and not feeding em'
Rick
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
The best arrangement would be to place the mold tooling with someone who is already equipped and set-up to fabricate fiberglass parts, and who might be agreeable to such an arrangement. A few possibilities for that come immediately to mind., (Norm, Doug Kinney, Archie ?)
first my thanks goes to exoticse !!!!! Really perfekt guy !
For answer all your question I have to mention , that I not thinking for any big buisness ! Parts I make now I make only for my fun ! Saving money for buying glasfibre , is diffucult enough for me .
Up to now there never was a great deal for myself , mostly it was only stress , disappointment and made me poor . So I nearly break every contact .
Please remember , up to now I `m only a Pizzadriver .
Sure is I have to make molds , also if I only I want one part for my own . Also sure are difficulties by shipping and high costs make these parts unattractive .
For me it will be enough finding a way to pay my fun and mostly get some respect for what I´m doing . This helps much more !
So my idea is , if there will be any interest for some guys overthere : 2 or 3 of you go together , maybe find a way of cheap shipping and give this parts somebody you believe him can do the copy for you . But please , make sure that the copy only is made when this part is mounted at any Fiero !!!!!! Maybe also ask Archie , I think him can do . For me it will be enough , if I can pay my further fun wishes and to realize a new idea . The new front nose should be a little bit same style Novitec made for F430 . Maybe some of you have also ideas , how I can style it . Every ideas or wishes are welcome and could be post here , after I decide what I can realize . Front turn lights I thought to take from the new Passat 3C . They are also availabe in clearglas . The nose will be much deeper as the 355 nose , and the 355 nose never was my perfekt style , because of the laughing mouth . Now I wish a more aggressive style , so if you want everything will be helpful .
first my thanks goes to exoticse !!!!! Really perfekt guy !
For answer all your question I have to mention , that I not thinking for any big buisness ! Parts I make now I make only for my fun ! Saving money for buying glasfibre , is diffucult enough for me .
Up to now there never was a great deal for myself , mostly it was only stress , disappointment and made me poor . So I nearly break every contact .
Please remember , up to now I `m only a Pizzadriver .
Sure is I have to make molds , also if I only I want one part for my own . Also sure are difficulties by shipping and high costs make these parts unattractive .
For me it will be enough finding a way to pay my fun and mostly get some respect for what I´m doing . This helps much more !
So my idea is , if there will be any interest for some guys overthere : 2 or 3 of you go together , maybe find a way of cheap shipping and give this parts somebody you believe him can do the copy for you . But please , make sure that the copy only is made when this part is mounted at any Fiero !!!!!! Maybe also ask Archie , I think him can do . For me it will be enough , if I can pay my further fun wishes and to realize a new idea . The new front nose should be a little bit same style Novitec made for F430 . Maybe some of you have also ideas , how I can style it . Every ideas or wishes are welcome and could be post here , after I decide what I can realize . Front turn lights I thought to take from the new Passat 3C . They are also availabe in clearglas . The nose will be much deeper as the 355 nose , and the 355 nose never was my perfekt style , because of the laughing mouth . Now I wish a more aggressive style , so if you want everything will be helpful .
Thanks Dietmar
Well that certainly answers a few of my previous questions! Dietmar, please check your PM
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FieroFanatic13 Member
Posts: 3521 From: Big Rapids, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
I never liked the GT nose. And after owning 2 GT's ive learned to tolerate it but I just wish I had options other than the 355 nose. Im interested in any alternatives
I've been dreaming of a decent replacement nose for our GT's that would work with the rest of the car and appear to be a stock design!
-Gary
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FieroFanatic13 Member
Posts: 3521 From: Big Rapids, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
Awesome nose, but i am confused. Is Dietmer allowing someone to make some copies off his mold, such as Archie? Either way i cannot wait to see the finished product
Awesome nose, but i am confused. Is Dietmer allowing someone to make some copies off his mold, such as Archie? Either way i cannot wait to see the finished product
Lets wait and see what happens. There are NO decisions on this yet, other than Dietmar's stated willingness to have copies made here in the U.S. I have a source for quality parts here in FL that is looking to get into low volume Fiero body parts and may be ideal for this. Again, just be patient. This will not happen overnite.
Awesome nose, but i am confused. Is Dietmer allowing someone to make some copies off his mold, such as Archie? Either way i cannot wait to see the finished product
Possible will be to copy the part . My molds I wouldn`t sell , because this will be my secret I wouln`t give up and maybe I will take this with me in earth . Before I also gave the allowness to some guys to copy , but mostly the results was not the result costumer waiting for .
Copy , where is the problem , maybe it makes some of you happy and if somebody same Archie will do this , it will be a great honor for me .
Mit Ihnen möchte ich zum Gespräch eines Geschäfts Kopie von Ihren Teilen hier in USA erstellen. Für Ihre Ehre bekannt sie als Dietmar Teile. Von Ihnen würde ich Teile kaufen und eine Firma sie hier kopieren lassen. Mit Ihnen ich damit einverstanden, die Profite zu teilen. Bitte verzeihen Sie mein schlechter Deutscher. Es ist nicht häufig, daß es hier verwenden kann. Mit Kolja Platen können Sie eine Anfrage von mir bilden. Er weiß vom mir und kann ein gutes Wort geben Ihnen.
Randy
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IMSA GT Member
Posts: 10484 From: California Registered: Aug 2007
first my thanks goes to exoticse !!!!! Really perfekt guy !
For answer all your question I have to mention , that I not thinking for any big buisness ! Parts I make now I make only for my fun ! Saving money for buying glasfibre , is diffucult enough for me .
Up to now there never was a great deal for myself , mostly it was only stress , disappointment and made me poor . So I nearly break every contact .
Please remember , up to now I `m only a Pizzadriver .
Sure is I have to make molds , also if I only I want one part for my own . Also sure are difficulties by shipping and high costs make these parts unattractive .
For me it will be enough finding a way to pay my fun and mostly get some respect for what I´m doing . This helps much more !
So my idea is , if there will be any interest for some guys overthere : 2 or 3 of you go together , maybe find a way of cheap shipping and give this parts somebody you believe him can do the copy for you . But please , make sure that the copy only is made when this part is mounted at any Fiero !!!!!! Maybe also ask Archie , I think him can do . For me it will be enough , if I can pay my further fun wishes and to realize a new idea . The new front nose should be a little bit same style Novitec made for F430 . Maybe some of you have also ideas , how I can style it . Every ideas or wishes are welcome and could be post here , after I decide what I can realize . Front turn lights I thought to take from the new Passat 3C . They are also availabe in clearglas . The nose will be much deeper as the 355 nose , and the 355 nose never was my perfekt style , because of the laughing mouth . Now I wish a more aggressive style , so if you want everything will be helpful .
Thanks Dietmar
Dietmer thank you very much for the kind words.
I don't know how someone with your skills has not been snatched up by a body shop or some other kind of automobile customization buisness.
Boggles my mind. At any rate let me know how that meeting (wink) goes this week with my friend. I am excited for both of you. Wish i could attend.
For those wanting to know what the novitec f430 nose, Dietmer mentioned, looks like,....here ya go.
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
If we get a nose like the F430....I am definitely interested. I'd love to have a new nose on my Fiero that accomodates my Intercooler, Radiator, AC Condenser and Tranny Cooler better than what I currently have now on my Formula.
------------------ 1 of 2: Graphite Grey Pearl 87 GT 5 spd: 2.8L (Best 1/4 mile: 15.57@87mph, 2.0 60ft) 2 of 2: Ferrari Red 88 Formula/4T65EHD: 97 GTP Motor (Best 1/4 mile: 12.0@118mph, 1.89 60ft w/True Street Radial Tires not Drag Radials!)
