Amazing that Andrew gets all upset that someone would want to make something similiar to what he stole our money for, but won't let us know the status yet again.

quote Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: I didn't "save his life", I fell for his drama. For the newer members who might not have known about andrew's "suicide note" that he posted in Off Topic, and being the survivor of watcinv my brother die after dozens x of "attempts", I was unable to not involve myself. It deeply disturbed me, and it brought up a whole lot of **** . As for Andrews attempt, I do have to hand it to him for planning to survive your suicide. His weapon of choice was some pills and a bottle of peach brandy in a parking lot that he knew an ambulance with emts would be posted at while not on calls. I didn't save his life, he planned the whole show. I was just his dancing bear.

But it wasn't the wrong thing to do. You know as well as I do that most don't want to go through with it but a lot of them end up dying anyway.

quote Originally posted by CenTexIndy: Amazing that Andrew gets all upset that someone would want to make something similiar to what he stole our money for

LMAO, isnt it!?!?

Still havent gotten my 3 badges, been 90 days and still counting.

::::sigh::::

Whats the status of our badges Andrew?

Well after a month and half I finally received my badges he even threw in a gold plated one to make up for the delay!! Anyone else???

WOW i hope you guys get your stuff

well, those do look good

Well i got mine !!!!!!!!!!!! And some extra stuff ! I cant say nothing bad about Andrew !!! Only good !!!!!

Awesome. Wonder if everyone is getting surprises right now!!

Where are mine?

I find it interesting that the people who are getting their badges are none of us who have repeatedly asked him for an update on ours.

Thumbs down to Andrew on that ---- BUT I am glad that at least some people are getting theirs - proof that he is not dead.

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quote Originally posted by CenTexIndy: I find it interesting that the people who are getting their badges are none of us who have repeatedly asked him for an update on ours. Thumbs down to Andrew on that ---- BUT I am glad that at least some people are getting theirs - proof that he is not dead.

The people who have complained will either be last or never get their badges. I'm sure Andrew takes the complaints as a personal attack and this is his retaliation for being treated so badly.

yup - you are probably right.
sad - when one of my customers is upset we make sure to take care of them first to get the stress off of us (not saying that those of us who complain should get our badges first).
The FAIR thing would be to get them shipped out in the order that the payments were received.
But I have figured out that Andrew could care less about fairness and even less for those of us who sent him our money.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: I'm sure Andrew takes the complaints as a personal attack and this is his retaliation for being treated so badly.

Treated badly? How is any of this worse than theft?

quote Originally posted by Formula88: The people who have complained will either be last or never get their badges. I'm sure Andrew takes the complaints as a personal attack and this is his retaliation for being treated so badly.

He deserves every personal attack he gets. I didn't even buy one of these badges, but no amount of "surprises" would make make up for his failure to even so much as respond to the people who sent him their money.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Treated badly? How is any of this worse than theft?

I'm not saying it is, just saying what I believe his reaction and rationalization for his actions is.
I believe he will feel attacked and persecuted because people have said not nice things about him and his reaction will be to delay or not give them the badges they've paid for. I think he'll feel justified in this because he feels victimized or attacked by the people who've complained.

A depressed person doesn't have the same rationale as someone else. Compounded by a lack of self esteem, any complaint is taken as a personal attack which further lowers the self esteem. That makes the depression worse and the person wants to avoid the situation. He craves attention. You can see evidence in his posts. Much like the class clown who wants to be the center of attention, he wants to be the center of attention and for everyone to like him. If that doesn't happen, he feels rejected and worthless.

He'll also think I'm trying to destroy him by saying this. I'm not. Depression is a horrible thing to deal with. It can destroy your life, and your business - as it's pretty much destroyed Andrew's business here. I hope he gets the help he needs and makes good on his committments. He's shown talent, and while I don't expect anyone here to trust him, he may have success in other endeavors - but only if he gets his depression under control and mans up and takes care of his obligations. One of the best things he could do for his self esteem would be to churn out those badges, as distasteful as that task may seem to him, and fulfill all of his orders. That would give him a sense of accomplishment and worth that I think he could use right now.

WOW! i have been gone for a while.

Seems to me this guy isn't ill, just has no morals. And for lack of better

words, has a pretty good scheme going. Gets together a bunch of people

to send him money for "badges." All the money gets received, spent on

personal things, and when one or two people go far enough to complain

where he could get in serious trouble, throws a couple badges in the

mail and the problem is deterred for another few months. He won't get

banned because people want to keep in contact in hopes of getting

their product. He has himself a nice safety bubble. I really hope you all

get your product eventually, or your money back. I was scammed of

$300 of my own money from someone I thought I could trust. I know the

feeling. It is morals like F-I-E-R-O's that makes me lock my doors at night.

quote Originally posted by leppy_89: It is morals like F-I-E-R-O's that makes me lock my doors at night.

He is absolutely right. Throw a couple of badges and all of a sudden he's walking on water again. How can you guys so quickly forget what has happened here? He deserves no less than to be thrown in jail. He's just a common thief.

I'm surprised Cliff has not done him in yet. He hasn't sent any hardware in a long time. Maybe someone HAS done him in....and are keeping quiet about it.......

Looks over both shoulders.......

Not me!