With the increased length of the car, it almost seams to be begging for Fender flares for the back and possibly the front. i can imagine them on your car, but dont have the photoshop savy to mock it up. have you thought about flares and wider wheelsbase?
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
with the rear suspension up grade i have planned i may just have to fair the rear .I am in the process of fabbing up a tube cradle for use with vette rear upper and lower control arms and uprights
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Dec 2nd, 2004
bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
time to up the anti again as I have started to build the tube cradle for the vette suspension here are some start pics asyou can see the attaching points for the a arms fully encircle the frame tubes for max strenght, not gut welded on as in this pic you would have to sever a tube completely to brake one of my brackets of these are the uprights that bolt to the lower controll arms this is a un equal length A arm setup short uppers long lowers
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
Very cool. I thought about something like that but quickly shoved it to the back of my mind with my plans for casting my own engine etc. Way to go for actually DOing all of this.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
What size is that tube? Wall thickness? Are you going to bend it? If so, how? This is turning out to be one heck of a project. Where in Canada are you at? I gotta come see this thing when it's done!! Very amazing work.
shop_rat45 1 3/4 by .125 wall the front tube will be curved at each end where it goes into the body mount and cross braced at the suspension points the rear will curve up to the frame then braced back to the center of the a arm attaching points with 1 1/4 inch .125 wall tubing
Toronto
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shop_rat45 Member
Posts: 3271 From: Lapeer, Michigan Registered: Mar 2004
shop_rat45 1 3/4 by .125 wall the front tube will be curved at each end where it goes into the body mount and cross braced at the suspension points the rear will curve up to the frame then braced back to the center of the a arm attaching points with 1 1/4 inch .125 wall tubing
Toronto
What are you going to use to bend it? Some sort of tube bender? That's the size I want to use for my control arms, but I'm still debating on how to bend them. Also, where are you getting the tube from? Locally? Thanks.
Kris
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
shop_rat45 the tubing I get from the Metal Super Market here in Toronto and I have control arm tubing and it is not regular tubing it is a special steel alloy that will resist twisting and I have access to a pipe bender from the Guy,s at RIO automotive and welding here in TO but you can buy pipe benders cheep from Princes Auto in Canada 149 .00 dollars CD from there web site when on sale . I will post a pic of the steel for control arms tomorrow .
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
What a work of art. Kit car, but custom. Still retains the Fiero poise. Beautiful work. Is that a C5 suspension or C6? The longer wheel base will really help at high speeds. I probably missed it, but how much HP is that motor putting out? (did I read that it was a N*?)
wow.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
you did all that to an indy?!? i mean, i like it, dont get me wrong, but an indy!
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Fierobsessed Member
Posts: 4782 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 2001
tednelson83 yes 100% indy but was so bad it was not worth it to simply restore the car and indys with that kind or rust damage are worth nothing when most of the original parts are missing this car was hacked up bad and I dont like scraping Fieros when I still have some hope for them Steve Rossi,s car was just as bad when I rebuilt his to put the 4.9 in it .Most Indy,s in the shape this one was in became parts cars but not this one.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
you did all that to an indy?!? i mean, i like it, dont get me wrong, but an indy!
Settle down it's not like an Indy is going to be worth anything anyway. If your lucky in another 20 years it might double it's original Retail sale value if you have one that's in perfect condition.
Back on topic, like the hidden LCD in the dash good idea.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
Settle down it's not like an Indy is going to be worth anything anyway. If your lucky in another 20 years it might double it's original Retail sale value if you have one that's in perfect condition.
Back on topic, like the hidden LCD in the dash good idea.
The Indy Cars will always be worth good money as there is always a buyer who is willing to pay for a good car in excellent condition and there are quit a few out there I have seen one go for 19,000 US with 17 miles on it and the buyer did not even drive it home he had it trailered so as to keep the milage as close to what it is now and there is another one here in Canada with 6 miles on it and the owner has never driven the car but he also has 5 other pace car replicas from GM in the same condition as he buy,s them for there future value not to drive. The cars he purchased where never driven they came off the trailer right into the warehouse as aranged with the dealer he ordered them from and have never been titled he only has the original bill of sale .They are still know as new cars untill titled .
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
its funny how even on page 24 you have pff regulars coming on this thread and saying how they just found it and cant believe it.i think it took me 8 pages to finally find the thread. its been great ever since.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
its funny how even on page 24 you have pff regulars coming on this thread and saying how they just found it and cant believe it.i think it took me 8 pages to finally find the thread. its been great ever since.
its funny how even on page 24 you have pff regulars coming on this thread and saying how they just found it and cant believe it.i think it took me 8 pages to finally find the thread. its been great ever since.
I never loose it its one of my favorites, page one every time.
WOW nice May I sugest you put a frame mount from the cradle to the space frame at or near the front A arm mount. The cradle is kind of long and seems like it would be a good idea to make it a structural member by adding a few more mounting points. The stock Fiero cradle mounting points are weak. But I am sure you fixed that.
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Fieroking Member
Posts: 2148 From: Coeur D Alene Idaho USA Registered: Jun 2002
This is way kool But have you had it running yet ?? And what do you plan to do with the car Drag it ?? i dont think even with the corvett lower control arms, It wont handle its to long and has a fat Ass
Way to go for actually DOing all of this.
you did all that to an indy?!? 
