I didn't bother reading pages 2-5, cause I'm lazy, tired, and exhausted. So if someone mentioned this, I'm sorry.
If you're going to stretch the frame by 12", why not do a longitudal engine conversion? You know, instead of the engine going sideways, have it go front to back. You could get a Porsche transaxle (AND MOTOR!!!), and work from there. Held motor sports has a cradle to mount those, maybe you could get that and modify it.
Just a thought.
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
been in ruff shape since Xmas have done little work on the body but have finished the ignition plat and now working on the trans adapter but slow no heated garage for me have to bear the cold and snow will try to get some pics as soon as I can stand long enough Joe
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Master Tuner Akimoto Member
Posts: 2267 From: South Florida,USA Registered: Jul 2003
as you can see here have started to make up the trans adaptor out of 3/4 6061-T6 aluminum in this pic you can see where the stock fiero slave has been mounted to actuate the porsche clutch arm finish trimming of the adaptor will be completed when all the nessesary components are mounted space is a premmium with the water pump so some minor trimming was requiered Bob and I spent the last 2 days getting this far work is slow but I will be getting there soon
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STRATOHACKER Member
Posts: 820 From: Columbus, OH U.S.A Registered: Jun 2003
Maybe this isn't your point, but I don't see that you're going to be saving a lot of money with the new ignition front mounted. The distributor is going to be about +/- $300, you need to fab the gear to the intermediate sprocket, billet timing cover, (the one pictured is $160 from CHRFab), mod that for the distributor, then you have to address the fuel delivery.
If you want to go carb, the only carb intake I know of is from CHRFab and that's $525, then you have to by a carb for another $200. I don't know what the machining cost of the components would be (for someone to have it hired done) but I know that $250 doesn't go very far for precision work like this. That makes the total cost around $1435.
You can buy the Holley Commander system, Plug and Play, from CHRFab for $1,495.
I certainly understand if you're doing this just because it's fun and you want to, more power to you, but I saw a couple of posts talking about this being an economical alternative and I don't see it being one (not to mention I can't imagine the distributor front mounted fitting in a transverse installation anyway, but it could be made to run off the WP drive possible).
John Stricker
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
as you can see here is the front drive dist cost for every thing $400 can. as for the fuel system i made my own manifold and set it up with DELLORTOS thats one carb per cylinder as dellortos are 2carbs with a common float bowl as each carb has its own settings for each barrel cost $400.can CHFAB these parts would cost me (manifold 650 US thats 990 can. ignition HPV! 600 thats 940.can. by the time I get them so I have saved plenty and to use Design ! Nstar setup thats 3000+ no thanks
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Nashco Member
Posts: 4144 From: Portland, OR Registered: Dec 2000
Even if there were cheaper routes, I still think that four carb setup would be worth it. It looks SWEET! I'm not much of a fan of carburetion, but no self-respecting gearhead can't show appreciation for that much complexity.
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jstricker Member
Posts: 12956 From: Russell, KS USA Registered: Apr 2002
I hope you didn't take my comments wrong. I certainly understand why you did it the way you are. First off, you have the capability and the tools to do the machine work, and there's a busload of it in the quality work you've done. Second, you're not daunted by having to fabricate things. Believe me, I know where you're coming from. I was told that I couldn't use the late model Northstar Throttle Body on the early, magnesium intake manifold, but I have it done and ready to go.
My point was that for OTHER, more human (as opposed to superhuman ) hobbiests, it wouldn't figure out to be very cost effective, I don't think.
Whatever *I* think about it's cost effectiveness, you're doing some beautiful work and it's going to be a unique transplant (not to mention the rest of the car). I'm enjoying the thread immensely.
John Stricker
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jstricker
as you can see here is the front drive dist cost for every thing $400 can.
as for the fuel system i made my own manifold
and set it up with DELLORTOS
thats one carb per cylinder as dellortos are 2carbs with a common float bowl as each carb has its own settings for each barrel cost $400.can
CHFAB these parts would cost me (manifold 650 US thats 990 can. ignition HPV! 600 thats 940.can. by the time I get them so I have saved plenty and to use Design ! Nstar setup thats 3000+ no thanks
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virii01 Member
Posts: 515 From: Lincoln, NE, USA Registered: Mar 2003
just finished the shifter fore the porsche trans axle will post pics tomorrow night . Have more to do tomorrow will have all the pivcs taken then so you will have a recient update
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fierodustin_86 Member
Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
Just a little curious and I dont know if anyone else has asked or if I'm just ignorant, but does engine turn the right way for the trans? Will it all work? I actually have NO idea and would just like to know for furture reference. dd
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bubbajoexxx Member
Posts: 1630 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2003
as you can see here have started to make up the trans adaptor
space is a premmium with the water pump so some minor trimming was requiered
Bob and I spent the last 2 days getting this far work is slow but I will be getting there soon
hahaha
86 Fiero SE
