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Madcurl's Arch Rival !! by exoticse
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Last post by | : madcurl on 02-10-2009 06:10 PM |
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Nov 9th, 2007
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SAFASTRO Member Posts: 604 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Registered: Nov 2006
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Is it possible to get an upholsterer to reduce the height of the top of those seats by a couple of inches?? ------------------  Choptop Shortened Front Bumper Shortened Rear Bumper 10" Stretch Dubs
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12:52 PM
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rodrieguz Member Posts: 134 From: cahokia IL 62206 Registered: May 2003
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Lower the floor pan 2" under each seat. that's what Lambo guys do to gain headroom in a fiero based replica. Rod
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03:28 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
Curley are you still going to use these seats? I don't know how they are going to fit after you put a headliner in there, unless you can figure a way to lower them. |
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Hehe. Yes & yes to both questions. | quote | Originally posted by rodrieguz:
Lower the floor pan 2" under each seat. that's what Lambo guys do to gain headroom in a fiero based replica. Rod |
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We've have a few ideas brewing, but thanks for your input. I always welcome "ideas." Thanks. Curley [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-09-2007).]
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06:21 PM
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Jake_Dragon Member Posts: 32975 From: USA Registered: Jan 2001
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Being a tall person I have always wanted my seat lower, I have been thinking about mounting the seat right to the floor as far back as possible then making a movable pedal system. When I win the Lottory I will get started.
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06:44 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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I've been busy for the last 3-days retrieving parts for #020. I picked up the rear calipers and seat bladder motor and pump from Cypress. According to Archie's touche'  measurements, I won't be needing them since the seats are really comfortable. I picked up the chromed hat rear rotor from the chrome shop. The weight for the rear C5 rotor is 18 pounds! Compared to the Baer's fronts @13.5 pounds...a 4.5 pound savings. I also checked the extended rear bracket, 14" rotor, and rear calipers were 26 pounds total vs. a 13" stock front Corvette rotor and caliper @ 24 pounds. In this case, the rears are 2-pounds heavier. I also dropped by Auto Sound Lab in Fresno, CA and found some interesting items. I'll have pics of my adventure this week. Edit: pics of my adventures A 18-wheeler with some unique items. It re-eneregised my old idea for the front spoiler...hmm? The front bumber flips and the guy is riding on air bags....wow!  front bumber flips forward for entering parking lots or ground clearance. Sorry no pic of it flipping-up. I was too busy holding my jaw!  Hmm. What if a Fiero's spoiler is made to flip inward? Hmm?  Massive dual smoke stacks (illegal since their over 14 feet)  Gas tanks riding low...dang!  [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-14-2007).]
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06:50 PM
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Nov 13th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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14" Baer rear Corvette rotors/brackets/caliper @ 26.0 pounds compared to 24.0 pound using the front OEM Corvette front caliper and 13" rotor. In my case, using the Baer rear application vs. OEM (but in the rear) I'm gaining 2-pounds.   [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-13-2007).]
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01:02 AM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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My Cypress Auto visit: Corvette bladders pumps and motors  Plenty of good used Corvette seats and even a few new ones too.  I had the shop remove the pumps and stuff. No need for the electric seat motors nor the rails  Assembly of the various parts but not needed since the "Crew" figured it out, hehe.   [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-13-2007).]
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01:09 AM
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Nov 14th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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left over pics from Corvette seat assembly.
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01:45 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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 Hmm. Always re-thinking, re-tweaking & altering pipe dreams.
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07:07 PM
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jmbishop Member Posts: 4484 From: Probably Texas Registered: Jul 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by jmbishop:

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lol, I tried to tell you a while ago.
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07:14 PM
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88White3.4GT Member Posts: 1604 From: Hayward, CA Registered: Dec 2003
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what happened with the vent idea up the sides of the rear window?
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11:31 PM
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Kaleb Member Posts: 240 From: Gadsden, Alabama Registered: Jan 2007
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last time i saw the arch rival in person it was in the condition that is shown in the picture two posts above..and it was still very impressive=) i couldnt imagine what it looks like in person now
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11:48 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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Nov 15th, 2007
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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12:02 AM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
When a design point finally gets approved, it really doesn't take too long to make some progress. Next we need to encourage Curley to finalize what he wants to do with the front end, so we can get this thing somewhere closer to done.
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Hehe. I'm a stickler when it comes to tweaking.  The Dells comments (which btw were the best and the honest) allowed me to retweak old idea. Granted, most PPFs' already knew the correct direction to take. The Dells comments just comfirmed it, hehe. The guy (standing on the far right), he's the one whom, I based my finally decision on, hehe.  Notice him holding his chin....hmmm  ?  [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-01-2007).]
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02:09 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
Granted, most PPFs' already knew the correct direction to take. The Dells comments just comfirmed it, hehe. |
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Nice to see it progressing...even nicer to see it finished... I'm hoping we can drive out of Archie's at the same time...
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02:16 PM
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exoticse Member Posts: 8655 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
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Looks good, but help me out what exactly did they do with the rear side panel ?
Was it reshaped or the ledge/hip widened out ??
Looks great just tying to figure out what just happened.
The venting on the side of the rear window looks awesome.
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02:45 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by exoticse:
The venting on the side of the rear window looks awesome. |
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The screen or mesh wire isn't the actually mesh that will be used. The "chicken" wire was for mock-up usage only and will be removed later for a stylish mesh that Troy let me have.
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03:07 PM
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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looking good!
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07:19 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:
what happened with the vent idea up the sides of the rear window? |
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Currently, the idea is on hold.
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08:21 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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You'll recall that we originally built up Curley's wide rear fenders from scratch using Fiero front fenders, fiberglass & sweat. Later we took molds of off the rear bumper, rockers, door caps & rear fender caps. We replaced his rear bumper & the originally fabricated rocker panels with parts out of the new molds. We resently decided that the car would be better & the bodywork would last longer if we also replaced the "hips" with new parts out of the molds. That's all. Archie | quote | Originally posted by exoticse:
Looks good, but help me out what exactly did they do with the rear side panel ?
Was it reshaped or the ledge/hip widened out ??
Looks great just tying to figure out what just happened.
The venting on the side of the rear window looks awesome. |
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08:27 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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 Hehe. 2/19/07 | quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
[my own homebrew renderings]

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The Dells visit: continued rendering perfected. Desired pipe dream:  I'd say we're on track. [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-17-2007).]
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08:44 PM
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Nov 16th, 2007
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
We resently decided that the car would be better & the bodywork would last longer if we also replaced the "hips" with new parts out of the molds.
Archie
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Good decision...it will definitely last longer with the fiberglass bodywork.
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Good decision...it will definitely last longer with the fiberglass bodywork. |
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Besides, on the Mad-Arch widebody kit the fender caps bolt to the rear bumper & to the rocker panels which will keep them perfectly lined up forever. On the original build of this car those pcs' didn't bolt together. Archie
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08:24 PM
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Nov 18th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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The "Planned Vented Area."  [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-19-2007).]
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04:51 PM
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Nov 19th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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 [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-20-2007).]
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12:34 PM
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rogergarrison Member Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
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Ive never seen this thread before. Thats some suburb work. Thats about the best body mods Ive seen done on a Fiero. My hats off to you for an excellent job, both in idea and workmanship. Keep it up. That makes a 1000% improvement on the overall Fiero look.
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03:27 PM
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Austrian Import Member Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
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Curly, if you're willing to spend $1400 each on seats. I found seats that would just look gorgeous in a Fiero. They are Recaro seats, and look really close to the European version of Audi R8 seats. (that option doesn't exist in the U.S. version, as Audi thinks most Americans won't fit those narrow sports seats.) I'll dig out the picture of both if you're interested. (Or you can go to Recaro.com if you're impatient. They're 2-tone) -M [This message has been edited by Austrian Import (edited 11-19-2007).]
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05:24 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Austrian Import:
Curly, if you're willing to spend $1400 each on seats. I found seats that would just look gorgeous in a Fiero. They are Recaro seats, and look really close to the European version of Audi R8 seats. (that option doesn't exist in the U.S. version, as Audi thinks most Americans won't fit those narrow sports seats.) I'll dig out the picture of both if you're interested. (Or you can go to Recaro.com if you're impatient. They're 2-tone)
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Thanks, but I'm in love with the Corvette seats and I've been eyeballing them for nearly 4 years https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...050410-1-045381.html ). I finally found the Corvette set (ones in pic) for $450 vs. the capitalistic expensive high baller ones on Ebay. | quote | Originally posted by rogergarrison:
Ive never seen this thread before. Thats some suburb work. Thats about the best body mods Ive seen done on a Fiero. My hats off to you for an excellent job, both in idea and workmanship. Keep it up. That makes a 1000% improvement on the overall Fiero look. |
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Thanks for the compliments, but the suburb workmanship goes to "Archie and the Crew." My goal is to bug them...relentlessly, hehe. [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-19-2007).]
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05:39 PM
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Austrian Import Member Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
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Yea, after I posted this, I noticed that you seemed dead set on the Corvette seats. :-) I'm sure they'll come along great.
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06:07 PM
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Nov 20th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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The "vent" continued. 
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Nov 21st, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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Nov 26th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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Thanks Archie and Troy. I recieved the F430 tri-pieces and D1S's C5 front adapters...it's 13/14" brake time! Also, the NRG kit arrived. Sorry. I forgot to take pics. Edit: Hey Archie, I got a few new ideas for the rear clip. I'll call you on Tuesday. [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 11-26-2007).]
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07:06 PM
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Nov 30th, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by 88White3.4GT:
what happened with the vent idea up the sides of the rear window? |
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I'm still working on it. After trying to draw out the darn idea I reviewed it and noticed the vent need to be a little more back (to the right), smaller, and I need to get the vent angle corrected.  [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-01-2007).]
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12:12 PM
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member Posts: 2410 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
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Thanks Madcurl, I am glad you liked my imput at the Dells, as we both know Archie did not want to here it! HeHeHe Hehe. I'm a stickler when it comes to tweaking. The Dells comments (which btw were the best and the honest) allowed me to retweak old idea. Granted, most PPFs' already knew the correct direction to take. The Dells comments just comfirmed it, hehe. The guy (standing on the far right), he's the one whom, I based my finally decision on, hehe. Notice him holding his chin....hmmm? I am glad you came to the Dells and the car is looing good I see the vision. Later Fiero John-WI [This message has been edited by FIERO JOHN-WI (edited 11-30-2007).]
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01:36 PM
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Dec 2nd, 2007
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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Custom2M4 Member Posts: 4414 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada Registered: Sep 2004
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Always looking spectactular there bud!
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01:31 PM
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Scurvy Member Posts: 865 From: Richmond, Va Registered: Nov 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl: I'm still working on it. After trying to draw out the darn idea I reviewed it and noticed the vent need to be a little more back (to the right), smaller, and I need to get the vent angle corrected.

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Why not just push the vent forward a bit and have it be a half moon vent matching the radius of the quarter window.
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05:58 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Scurvy:
Why not just push the vent forward a bit and have it be a half moon vent matching the radius of the quarter window. |
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I tried that too, but I erased it cause it didn't look that good either (or maybe?). I'll lick this in a few more days...which ever way it goes; up, down, sideways, curved, rounded,...hehe.  [This message has been edited by madcurl (edited 12-02-2007).]
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09:11 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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| quote | Originally posted by madcurl:
I tried that too, but I erased it cause it didn't look that good either (on paper). I'll lick this in a few more days...which ever way it goes, hehe.
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Whatever you do, try to remember that we have to make it symmetrical from side to side, so don't make it too complicated. Pick out a shape like a Meguairs bottle if you want it perfectly symmetrical.  Better yet, go to the hardware store & the local dollar store & find an egg separator or a toilet bowl brush holder or an ashtray that has the shape you want.  Archie
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