Yep they screwed me.

Once I got there he gave me this BULL Storey about he wont pull a motor until it is paid for in advance. I talked to him on the phone like 3 times and we agreed on price and everything. I called him Wednesday morning and said I would be there to pick it up on Thursday morning. He said great he would have it all ready for me.

We drive the 200 kms to get there only to find the car has not been touched, it is buried behind 2 other cars in the yard, he gives me this line about being busy. I hear him in the background arguing with someone else about not having a part that he said he would have. I guess he must do this a lot.

Oh Well 70 bucks in fuel for the truck and lunch down the drain. I guess I am comming back in a week when he has it done. He said he would call me when it is done.

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[This message has been edited by Fire451 (edited 05-13-2005).]

Well one day of bad, and the 2nd day was Good.

I wanted a little and they told me I could have what I wanted IF I also took the rest.

What I ending up buying.

Complete 50,000 mile 87 4cly motor, on cradle with 5spd.
Included near new Shift Cables, New brackets, Used but near new clutch. this was all on the cradle with rear breaks, CV shafts and everything.
GT Aux gauge pod
and lots of other stuff.

We had to pull the cables from the car and pull the gas pedal cable out.

It even had a complete exhaust. It had a CS Alternator on it as well that I thought was only an 88 thing.

The Trans is dirty but we wiped a small area of it off and WOW does it shine. Like it is still kinda new. The cables do look new.

The shifter is odd to me to look at. I hope someone can confirm that is is the normal 5spd shifter. The ball and socket makes the shifter more really really smooth around in the pattern.

I gave the motor and cradle away with the CV shafts and the breaks and low mileage wheel bearings to a few fellow members.

But I kept the gauges, the shifter the cables and the tranny for myself.

Here are a few pics of my new toys.

Cables

Shiney Tranny

Shifter is it funky.

bump

Well small update.

I went out and bought a pressure washer.

So that I could turn that old trans axle into a nice clean looking piece for my car

I went to the local speed shop and got some dress up stuff for the harness and lines,

10ft Small 1/4" for vacuum lines and 2 or 3 wires.
10ft medium 3/8" for larger vacuum lines and 4-5 wires
14ft large 1/2" for 5-7 wires
5ft jump 3/4" for main harness for 10-15 wire harnesses.

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85GT 4spd MSD Everything, Big Cam and Nitrous. www.captfiero.com

quote Originally posted by Capt Fiero: Well small update. I went out and bought a pressure washer. I went to the local speed shop and got some dress up stuff for the harness and lines, 10ft Small 1/4" for vacuum lines and 2 or 3 wires. 10ft medium 3/8" for larger vacuum lines and 4-5 wires 14ft large 1/2" for 5-7 wires 5ft jump 3/4" for main harness for 10-15 wire harnesses.

I want want want I have to pick of one of these next weekend I will be tearing mine down to see if its clutch or tranny.

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Earl do you have a phone number I can call you at.

I have some questions. Would be much faster to ask on the phone. My nickle of course.

David

They should have everything you need for your 4.9..

http://www.deere.com/en_US/deerecom/usa_canada.html

haha, just kidding dave.. =]

At least my car wont need a tractor to tow it around, HeHe. (inside joke)

whoah, whoah there dave, lets not say things we cant take back.. hahaha..

I am sorry, I take it back. I am just jealous that you have the Nice paint.

[This message has been edited by Capt Fiero (edited 05-16-2005).]

haha, all show, and no go in my case, eh?

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Update

I just got off the phone with Northwest Auto Wrecking. My Motor is ready to be picked up. Yaaa. I cant wait. We are going down very early Wednesday.
I got a set of frame wheels from John so my car is now sitting level on the ground and I can go about swapping the shifter, cables and throttle cable.

So far it is all torn about and just getting ready to start putting it back toger. I have an 88GT shift suround with the dot matrix panel and a 5spd logo that will fit in very nicley.

I will post more pics when I have the engine here.

in my case im going to need one of those tractors to tow mine (broken clutch)

Ps mizers paintjob looks awsome his car looks alot like mine.

Only open this link if you have a strong stomach. I found something really nasty in my car today. Read the thread before you look at the pics.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/033326.html

Well Wish me luck, we are leaving for Seattle in about 20min . Hopefully this time with a 4.9 complete with ECM and Harness comming back with us.

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85GT 5spd MSD Everything,4.9 With Nitrous. Comming Soon! www.captfiero.com

all joking asside dave, im looking forward to seeing this motor in action.

Well here it is.

Bump becuause there was a power outage at the server location today so the pics were offline.

What is the best manifold setup to use on the 4.9 in the Fiero. What are you guys using that seems to work.

P.S. Earl the mounts came in today.

Oh Oh Oh, it came, it came, it came.

LSC Performance Flywheels came through with my NEW not redrilled 4.9 flywheel. Made from billet steel weights 15 lbs is custom made for the Fiero / 4.9 standard trans swap. They are in California.

Here it is, sorry for hte bad pics. But you get the idea of it.

First pic is front, 2nd pic is back.

I have the same flywheel. LSC Performance made mine also.
I sent them my caddy flexplate to have the flywheel made.
Which clutch are you going to use?

It was nice meeting you, FieroChic and Mrs.Fire451.
I see your webpage is back up. Can you share the link to the videos you were trying to show me?

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87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress
Custom LED Notchback Tail Lights

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Well did some digging around today on the motor. Pulled off a few more things that needed to come off, was on the phone with LSC about the miss drilled bolt hole. Talked to John and he is coming over tomorrow to help me with the wiring and see about the mounts for the motor. I am on my way to his place now to drop off the valve covers to get blasted so I can get a good coat of red paint on them. From what I am told they are magnesium and cant be sanded. They are light as heck though. I was amazed at the valve train set up in this thing. Really kinda neat.

I did some more working on the interior today. She is all ready for the new trans and motor now. Has the correct throttle cable and the correct shifter and cables. I need to clean everything now that it is mostly back together. Here are a few shots from Today.

about that mis drilled hole.. if its only 30thou out, dremel it so it works and then get the flywheel reballanced to componsate?

well the amount that it is miss drilled vs the amount that I need ground is only about .010. I am going to get it buzzed out. He has asked me to please send in the enforcement ring off of my Caddy flex plate so he can figure out why this happened and make sure it never happens again. He really wants to help the Fiero community out. His price being only $245 shipped. Is the best deal going for a brand new billet flywheel.

Well

Update as well

I went to johns last night. He took my valve covers from me, I think he wanted to hit me for trying to paint them myself.

He put them into a solvent tank and cleaned off most of my red paint.
Then sand blasted them, that did not work to well.
So he hit them up with heavy duty air craft stripper.
Then back to the sand blaster
Then put a scotch Bright looking thingy into an air grinder and polished them.
Then some sort of cleaner
Then paint, and heated with a heat gun then more paint.

WOW. They are RED Bright RED. He said he was going to sand the tops of something so that they would look like the Fiero ones. This is gonna be so cool.

I got a clutch. I am kinda cheeping out on the clutch and installing a STOCK V6 clutch into the car for the time being. First off I don't even know if this will fit into the Isuzu bell housing and 2nd because this Isuzu may only be for a short while as I am still looking for a 3.32 gear set to put into the Muncie 4sp and re-install that.

I am off to the parts store today to check on and buy a few things I will be back later.

David

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Question on the two last photos if I am looking at it right are those bolts holding the pressure plate also the center hole that goes over the crank shaft snout it looks too big or is it my eyes if the bolts that holds the pressure plate are long they will jam the flywheel against the engine so the have to be cut off....just an observation.

Bonus Points for you. Yep, the new flywheel uses larger 5/16 metric bolts in it. He told me 5/16, 18 pitch bolts. I was not sure what lenght to buy so I just grabbed 1". Looks like I am going back and grapping .75" bolts. That will bring the tails in enough that it wont catch. To be honest, I dont think it would catch even the way it is. The flywheel is spaced far enough away from the inside of the engine block.

But good eye for catching that.

quote Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: Question on the two last photos if I am looking at it right are those bolts holding the pressure plate also the center hole that goes over the crank shaft snout it looks too big or is it my eyes if the bolts that holds the pressure plate are long they will jam the flywheel against the engine so the have to be cut off....just an observation.

I have a clutch, YAAA. I have a new water pump, I have 8 new spark plugs all installed. John is 90% done with the wiring.
IT GOT HOT TODAY. We put up a tent to stay out of the sun. I am going to try and get it on the cradle tomorrow. Oh I cant wait.

Well here are the pics. John is the guy with the shirt off doing the wiring.

See Clutch

Exhaust that needs to be made into a Y-Pipe with the side dump welded shut.

Our Mini Fiero Hut Tent. Thanks to the Easterbrooks.

Fiero Hut John Working Hard at my Harness. I really want this for Arlington. He has been taking time away from the shop to come and help me. He does call himself the Fiero Doctor I wonder how much these house calls are going to cost me.

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Edited because I didn't read the whole thing, now........What kinda clutch is it?

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I ended up cheaping out on the clutch for the moment.

It is a stock V6 DynoPack clutch kit. The DynoPack's held up to my 100hp nitrous shots fired at 1200rpms. It held up to 2 years of extreme street and track racing. So it is only fitting that I give the DynoPack's another shot. They are cheap clutches up here. But seem to have good bang for there buck. There is a long story on this clutch. It was installed in a car, ran for 2 months then pulled out because he blew his tranny. (cracked the case) He needed a new throwout bearing and the shop did not have one and would not take a clutch kit apart and sell him just the throwout bearing. So he had to buy an entire clutch kit for just the throwout bearing.

He took his near new clutch out boxed it up and was saving it. Well along comes me going to buy a V6 dynopack clutch but I don't need a throwout bearing because I need the Isuzu Throw-out bearing.

He offers it to me for "Free"

How could I turn it down. All it has to do is last 6 months or until I find the 3.32 gear set to put into my later model case, and then I want to install a puck clutch.

any updated pics capt????????? come on you know you wanna post them.... lol

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86 SE 2.9L
Best ET : 14.9 @ 90 MPH

I really did not take any pics today. Maybe I will sneak down and take a few quick shots.

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85GT 5spd MSD Everything,4.9 With Nitrous. Comming Soon! www.captfiero.com

What was wrong with the mounts from Earl...??? Got any pics of them..??

I am not into bashing other members. They just were not what I was expecting or wanted.