Thanks. I'm still working on the XLR version; will post drawings when I have something. But I am working on a design buck for a new GTP replacement front fascia. It's similar to the one in this photo but without the Sunfire headlights and it's for the stock Fiero.
I like where your going with this , show us more plz. Joe
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pavo_roddy Member
Posts: 4351 From: State with a city named Gotham Registered: Apr 2004
This is what I had in mind for the coupe from my previous drawing. It's a stock '85GT with some bodyline modifications. In addition the drivetrain/cradle is shifted 3" back and a new curved windshield is added. My design goal is to give it a slightly modified look while maintaining a stock factory appearance.
HI all,
Amida is the extended windshield in the above pic installed, or is it photoshopped in?? If it is installed I would love to hear about it, and see some more pics..... Particular interest is cold air return function with the new windshield and wiper mods......
edit: Amida do you have a website?? Also, did you know that the website for your interior is not working anymore??
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Amida Member
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My interior photos were put up courtesy of Jim Dinner. He may still have his build diary webpages but under a different link. I will be putting up a few webpages for my front fascia designs: GTR(512tr), GTP, & GTO. I'll have the 355 interior pics on there as well. It'll save me alot of time instead of having to e-mail pics all the time over a dial-up connection. I've had this bug in my ear to do the curved windshield thing to the Fiero. The image is Photoshopped, but I'm looking into having a few pieces made for me. The wiper mods looks simple enough to do, according to the kitcar guys.
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I think the curved windshield would look awesome on the fiero too, though I am up in arms about how to do the cold air return..... Funnywheels says he figured it out, I guess if and when I can get around to it, i'll just have him write up a tech article about it......lol.....
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Amida Member
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This is just a very rough sketch of the full frontal view. I just needed to get some ideas down on paper. I'd like to start a project like this sometime. My design goal is to achieve a look that is very Pontiac & Identifiable as a Fiero while blending in more current body lines. I'll try to utilize existing off the shelf parts too.
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Amida Member
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A little adjustment to the rear sail panel; much better. Notice that the layout is mid-engine, changed from front engine on the original XLR. I actually think I'd buy it- if it existed. Perhaps it should be called Northstar XLM.
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pavo_roddy Member
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The 3" stretch is mainly to lengthen the look; to give it a more cab-forward bias. I understand that 3" is about the limit for shifting the cradle back & leaving enough room for coil-over struts. No chassis cutting. I suspect that with a Northstar that the towers will need to be notched for pulley clearance.
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I'll put some ideas down for a side profile. I'm thinking a GT rear qtr glass style will fit the lines better on this one. I think it would be nice to leave out the mid-body division line, but that is a major visual characteristic of the original Fiero. I also think the GT style taillight lens may be appropriate as well. Thanks.
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Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
I like your vision Amida. The first XLM looks cool, but I'd pull the nose back a couple of inches. It looks nose heavy. It's kind of funny that you're doing this because I'm doing the same thing, sort of. Since my kitcar dreams seem to be just that, dreams, I started modeling a 21'st century Fiero that keeps the original design alive, but incorporates Pontiac cues. I was thinking of modifying my car once I come up with a final design. And it will use an extended windshield, also (Trevor's or Sebring, etc).
Keep up the good work...
Bob
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Amida Member
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Doublec4, Looks great. Could you draw in the splitter in the front grill? I thought I'd sketch some ideas for the rear view. The main idea, again, is to be able to identify the car as a Fiero. So, I used the GT quarter glass shape & tail lights along with the mid-body division line. I put back in the hot air outlets at the front fenders and continued with the '05 GTP fascia as in the front. I might try a rear diffuser in place of the grill & move the grill to between the taillights. Still needs alot of work, but I really like the glass engine cover idea.
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Amida Member
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It's kind of funny that you're doing this because I'm doing the same thing, sort of. I started modeling a 21'st century Fiero that keeps the original design alive, but incorporates Pontiac cues. I was thinking of modifying my car once I come up with a final design. And it will use an extended windshield, also (Trevor's or Sebring, etc).
Keep up the good work...
Bob
Thanks Bob, Let's see some of your ideas. Were you refering to the XLR drawing on the coupe? I'll still have to work on that one.
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Thanks, thats what I am in the process of building myself :P. It's always nice to see new ideas. I do really like how you are trying to keep it pontiac, its a nice touch. I think you deserve a + for your ideas. Keep it up, don't be shy to ask if you need any tips on actually building this thing.
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Amida Member
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Hey Thanks, you bet. I'm pretty sure with all the expertise on this site that something like this could be built. This rough sketch includes a rear diffuser. I can also visualize a wing spoiler.
Even better. I was thinking the exact same thing as you last year. 1982 Trans Am tails.
Weird how that works isn't it ? . Last years widebody was too... Well fiero ish to pull those lights off.. After I completely re-do the rear end, we will have to see what they look like.... I almost forgot about those. Thanks.
Well, this is kind of what I was thinking. What do you think????
I tried to keep some old school Pontiac, along with the original Fiero lines. I'm partial to Notchies, too. It's preliminary and rough. Feedback welcome.
Bob
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Amida Member
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Looks Good Bob. I like the slant of the bodyline & sail panel. I see the Pontiac style nose vents as well, pretty nice. Maybe add an airdam underneath for ground effect. Cool. I think Custom2m4 is on the same page.
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Amida Member
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I had to finish sketching the rear end before I lose my vision. I've incorporated a Toyota MR2 rear window & Firebird taillights. Cleaned up some of the lines. With both the front & rear drawn on paper, I think I can visualize what a side profile will look like. Next, I'll try to sketch something to connect both ends.
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Well, this is kind of what I was thinking. What do you think????
I tried to keep some old school Pontiac, along with the original Fiero lines. I'm partial to Notchies, too. It's preliminary and rough. Feedback welcome.
Bob
The part I like most about this are those side scoops. Would lookamazing translated to a shaved Fiero, and it wouldn't be too hard to do (assuming you had the skills to shave it in the first place).
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RCR Member
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I agree. My splitters are too small. Maybe I'll bring it all the way across with a stand in the center. Hmm??? I also want to round off the edges of the front fascia to the fenders.
Also, It's hard to see in the pics, but the back pic shows that I'm using Mcaanda's styled rear decklid vents. I need to finish them up and get better models printed.
Bob
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Amida Member
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Bob, your front end reminds me of a '70 GTO. I also noticed you removed the mid-body division line and added a larger side inlet. Your design has a nice chiseled look.
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