WOW that is a nice build! I like the "thinking ahead" bits you did, like putting the gas cap under the rear flipup to keep the body lines flowing and symmetrical. The concave surfaces bring an interesting dynamic to it. Single pictures of this angle or that can't really capture the whole car, it seems to have a bit of an optical illusion to it. Do you have by chance a video of a walkaround of the car? Kudos for having a vision and sticking it out 8 years. It's inspiring
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Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
WOW that is a nice build! I like the "thinking ahead" bits you did, like putting the gas cap under the rear flipup to keep the body lines flowing and symmetrical. The concave surfaces bring an interesting dynamic to it. Single pictures of this angle or that can't really capture the whole car, it seems to have a bit of an optical illusion to it. Do you have by chance a video of a walkaround of the car? Kudos for having a vision and sticking it out 8 years. It's inspiring [/QUOTE
Thanks very much... I'm honoured. Tho the talent ppl have shown on this site has really impressed me too.
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Nov 16th, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
As I won't have time tomorrow morning I'm putting this collection tonite. It focuses on laying down the tinted epoxy primer and jamming the vehicle with the first coats of base.
Cheers.
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Nov 17th, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Well it seems that Rhythm's reputation is growing. The local paper did a feature story on her. People who have been involved in seeing her evolve are pretty excited to see this coverage.
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iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
This vehicle never left the shop for any of the work for 8 years...except for the safety. Design, metalwork, bodywork, paint, and assembly was all done in the one bay you see in the pictures. It would be moved/rolled out once in a while to clean the place up, but never leave the premises.
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Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Driving her for the second time since we started. A basic test drive was done when the chassis and inner body structure was completed over 5 years ago. Here is the second time to test if electrical and cooling system was operational. What a rush! Further, trim work begins.
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Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
Now that would be a fun yet challenging project. For the right price building a modernized all aluminum Fiero could be done by us. Of course it would be left as raw aluminum...hmm thinking... either satin or polished to a blinding finish...be interesting when ppl pull off the road b/c of the arc flash they'd get HA!
Guess it would be something along the lines of the chromed pickups they used for the superbowl a few years ago...
Thanks for the thumbs up!
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Nov 21st, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Focus is on the aluminium polished grill with fishnet grill inlayed. Also, some fabrication of the molded wheel centre caps - profile curvature of the cap reflects that of the ANSEN rims.
Alum is too easy :P No, I'm kidding... we choose to make it out of stainless...then brush it. It has a more elegant appearance when brushed than aluminium. Ever try bending stainless steel sheets?... loads of fun
I'll upload some interior fab pictures sometime this weekend.
Cheers,
Nick
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Nov 22nd, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
This picture set focuses on the last assembly details and getting the car safetied. In the final image you can see that from top view of the side profile she looks like a fighter jet.
Cheers
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iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
I've made the executive decision to tuck Rhythm away under her little blanket for the winter. She might get some exercise on a few nice days, but until Feb/March - when the Autorama and Performance World are on, she's been put away. I guess its better to get a project car completed just before the end of spring so you can enjoy driving it more during the summer months.
Now it's time to begin my next one...
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Nov 23rd, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Outstanding workmanship, but really out-there style-wise for me. Perfect example of love it or hate art. Coming at ya fast, some may think it a one-off jaguar. Going away, hey was that a T bird? Side view, a sculptured 60 buick on striods?
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Nov 26th, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Thanks Francis! I get second and at times even third takes of the car from people anywhere we go - with the biggest question - "What is it?" People try to guess and even argue with me that it wasn't built by hand...hahah.. and I'm the one that fabricated it - it's a lot of fun!
In regards to workmanship - thanks again. People in my area are approaching me "challenges" - to recreate or fab parts that are no longer available for their vehicles. Mainly body panels and trim. It's pretty interesting to see some of the stuff that comes in.
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Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
This set focuses on several of the detailed parts. Also, anywhere you look on the car...there are no visible fasteners - and most things are fastened in such a way that if you remove one bolt/screw there is a sequence that the pieces must follow to come out. I love puzzles.
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americasfuture2k Member
Posts: 7131 From: Edmond, Oklahoma Registered: Jan 2006
Outstanding work and creativity, my respects, but a terribly ugly design IMO.
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www.yellowfiero.com 17" DEZENT T wheels with 215/40 tires front and 235/45 rear, KONI shocks, EIBACH lowering springs, drilled/slotted rotors, SS brake hoses. PU dog bone, all bushings and engine mounts, K&N air and oil filters, Rebuilt&blueprinted V6, BORLA exhaust. Mercedes SLK yellow paintjob, Mr. Mikes leather seats, door skins, shift and e-brake boots. MP3 deck and custom subwoofer behind passenger seat, F355 style front, Aus' Stage 2 side scoops, "Fie Ro" extractor front scoop. Fiero Store rear swaybar, strut tower brace, black carpet, air intake. Rodney Dickman's competition short shifter, SS vacuum lines and deck lid strut. Billet aluminum dash kit from Kitcarman.
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Nov 27th, 2008
Francis T Member
Posts: 6620 From: spotsylvania va. usa Registered: Oct 2003
'Buildbook' interior set # 5 - the last of the build pictures.
Hey look! Some Fiero parts did make it into the interior: the E-Brake handle with a redesigned e-brake system; the HVAC control panel; and French seamed seats rebuilt for extra lumbar and side support - we 'deep sixed' the seat speakers...not quite sure what Pontiac was thinking when they installed those. As for the dash, people are surprised that there is no Tac installed - there is space for a Tac if I move the speedo over to the left and go down to a 3", however having grown up driving stick I don't find it a necessity...i listen to the revs of the engine.
Cheers.
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Nov 29th, 2008
ktthecarguy Member
Posts: 2076 From: Livonia, MI USA Registered: Jun 2007
Well, I guess I am the only one who doesn't like it - the design, I mean. As for the craftsmanship, wow! Obviously beautifully put together. And the interior is quite beautiful. I just don't care for the overall look of the exterior. To be specific:
- the grille and headlight treatment is more neo-classical, a look I have never cared for (sorry Zimmer afficianados!)
- the overall length and size of the front is overbearing to the midsection of the car
- the hood scoop doesn't flow with the other established character lines of the car
- The wheels and wheelwells appear a bit small on such a large car
- The cabin glass appears too small, again due to the larger nose and rear
- the rear wheel air scoops might look better upside down
- the alum. strakes seem like too much of an add-on; not enough other alum. on the car to provide balance
- the air intakes above the large intakes seem like overkill, and would anyways probably look better reversed as well
- the rear air outlets add too much detail to the rear
- same with the rear reverse scoop on the trunklid
- the lines to the tail seem to round down and in, but the trunklid juts up - kind of incongruous
My overall impression is that the details are too busy - it just overpowers the basic look of the car. As I said, the craftsmanship is obviously outstanding, I am quibbling about the design details. And I realize that would change to whole look of the car - that's my point.
Feel free to disagree, but keep in mind iNVisionPROTOTYPES invited comments here, both good and bad.
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iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
Well, I guess I am the only one who doesn't like it - the design, I mean. As for the craftsmanship, wow! Obviously beautifully put together. And the interior is quite beautiful. I just don't care for the overall look of the exterior. To be specific:
Feel free to disagree, but keep in mind iNVisionPROTOTYPES invited comments here, both good and bad.
Now this is some interesting feedback - more useful than one word descriptors to iNVision as well as others who are into building/modifying cars . Thank you very much - that's great!.
The theme of this vehicle took influences from many places including the SR-71 Blackbird, classic muscle and classic supercars and by combining these elements and proportions leaves some people scratching their heads the first time they see it - something we expected.
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Dec 14th, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
It's been a while since I've been on! With new projects presented to me its hard to find any time for the good things in life...like sleep.
Anyway, just wanted to throw out to anyone who's familiar with the Old Autos publication(cover classics and customs) that they did a feature article on Rhythm...outlining her influences, fabrication, and detailing.
Cheers.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Now this is some interesting feedback - more useful than one word descriptors to iNVision as well as others who are into building/modifying cars . Thank you very much - that's great!.
The theme of this vehicle took influences from many places including the SR-71 Blackbird, classic muscle and classic supercars and by combining these elements and proportions leaves some people scratching their heads the first time they see it - something we expected.
Cheers
Unique craftsmanship to which lends it to a movie car (such as "Batman or some type of gothic-seedy movie). IMO I think the color should have been flat black (go along with SR-71 Blackbird) with deep-dished DUB rims and less sidewall.
The "Rhythm" rear-end reminds me of the retro Thunderbirds (last production) and the front end looks more "Jaguar-ish" IMO (okay, that's the easy definition). Everything else is a mixer of new /old and is confusing in some areas to which intrudes upon the "theme" of the car. I can "see" the vision, but is hard trying to pen it down. This is why I'm viewing the Rhythm as "a movie car."
Jaguar like front end
Thurderbird like rear end
The center section doesn't match the front and rear theme of the car. The 2-chromed veins need removing and the big side vent is "odd." Granted, the front and rear wheel opening are way too small and tires and rims are out dated.
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"Friends don't let friends drive stock"
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Dec 18th, 2008
iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
If each car I brought home for a project could tell a story...I'd have some really interesting stories. In regards to the Feiros...someone had at one point tried to jump her. The front spindles were both bent, the front substructure had collapsed, even tho the front gap looks good...the back edge of the door is an inch more forward at the bottom than it should be, front glass popped out on the D/S and the rear stucture was higher on the right than the left. Wonder if he thought he was driving Eleanor?
This is one of the fiero's I obtained that donated some of her HVAC parts and steering column...She didn't need much to certify for the road...but it was so difficult to find a fiero with the parts I was after...that were still in working order. Therefore, Blackie went under the gas knife.
After some time this was what was left. The fiero community in my area i guess benefitted from her demise as well. The remainder of the shell was cut into 5 pieces so that we could fit them in the back of our truck and hauled to the scrap yard.
If anyone in the Niagara Falls area is looking for some front fenders, the grills that go on the rear deck, automatic trans, rear cradle with drive axles I can help u out.
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Feb 12th, 2009
Fiero2m8 Member
Posts: 1928 From: Niagara, Ontario, Canada Registered: Feb 2006
Hey, I stopped by today to see if you had a spare Fiero rear window. Your Dad helped me make a cardboard template off the 85GT so Speedy Glass can make me one without rear defroster lines. He showed me the latest plans for your project - very cool! I'd never seen one of those up close in person before, I hope you keep tinkering and get it to work. I won't spoil the surprise but hopefully you post some progress pics as you go as there's a lot of interest in that setup on this forum. You would get a lot of support from others that have tried it too. Maybe I've said to much...
Your skills, workmanship and talent are obvious. You did a great job on the car. However, I must say it is not my cup of tea in the looks department. I'm not hatin, just being honest. Hey, some people think Lambo's are ugly, but those people are stupid.
Jim
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iNVisionPROTOTYPES Member
Posts: 93 From: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2008
No worries man! Sorry I missed you...had to take care of some stuff up in TO. I thought we did have a Fiero rear window at one point that I was saving...however we did a pre-winter cleanup and more than likely got rid of it. That template should get you on your way though.
Yea, in regards the "new" project you saw today...I was getting bored and the gears started turning so to speak. Until I get the SBC350 things won't really get moving but what you saw there was a few hours of just mocking things up and determining the quickest way to install the unit. Should put the reverse rotation concept on a whole new level without affecting 'handleability' nor adding much more weight...oops I let a little more slip out . As time permits and I get the engine I'll try to post some updates. It's not that I'm not happy with the V6's performance...cough cough...but completing the body was my primary concern and an engine swap was planned for a later time.
Btw...did you happen to see the next - more modern - version of Rhythm up on the wall? Still working on a few areas but the concept is much tighter (not late '60's retro based this time) and rolls on 19's in the front and 20's in the rear. Can't wait to start the real deal.
How did it feel to get your ride out and about last weekend? Almost perfect weather conditions - I thought about it...but still a bit too much salt on the roads.
Cheers,
N.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Btw...did you happen to see the next - more modern - version of Rhythm up on the wall? Still working on a few areas but the concept is much tighter (not late '60's retro based this time) and rolls on 19's in the front and 20's in the rear. Can't wait to start the real deal.
Hey, I heard that! A good choice for your car.
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Fiero2m8 Member
Posts: 1928 From: Niagara, Ontario, Canada Registered: Feb 2006
Originally posted by madcurl: Hey, I heard that! A good choice for your car.
Nic - you should start a new concept prototype thread and let us all help you design and envolve the new theme idea (very cool) - it would be in my Favorites!
MadCurl - sometimes I think you use the search feature and type in "20's"