archie chopped imca widebody notchback. w / rich warber PPE style rearend. wingless but a straght over hanging trailing edge. paint would be mirra chrome. staggered fit Axis hiro 18/19 combo, gtr style hood. Turbo LS1 , GT35R, fmic in trunk, cold treated G6 tranny. pisa 355 interior. f430 mirrors, and headlamps.
i dig it.
edit: forgot the 30k thing.. umm.. subtitute mirrors with olds auora mirrors.. and suck up the rest. then loose the savings right back when you add 13.5" vented slotted stainless rotors and 4 piston brembos
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
This could be a dangerous thread! It brings back memories. When I first talked to Archie in 2005, I told him that I was working on a 25,000 budget. But then the "pipe dreams" started add $$$, Then I started chatting with curly ...add $$$. After that I just put Archie’s number on speed dial, closed my eyes and opened my wallet. So what’s the danger ? this thread is giving me the itch to start a new project and my wife just gave me the evil eye.......
What the hay I have a guess room, time to start planning
You shouldn't have never talked to me....I'm crazy. Just ask Archie, hehe. However, at the CTHC I found a few people crazier than me. Motor TV and Tina come to mind (just a few of my "favorites).
I would start out with a 88 coupe, maroon with t-tops. 1. LS7, I don't know if it would fit, but I would try, and hopefully shoe horn that thing in there. 2. Custom BLACK leather from mikes 3. 18-19" chrome five spoke rims (don't want to go too California) 4. Put a small, tasteful spoiler on the rear. 5. 6 speed tranny out of a 4th gen F-body 6. Don't know to much about brakes but...good brakes. 7. 12 disc CD changer AND a plug n' play port for ANY mp3 player 8. Bose speakers with a small (tasteful) sub. 9. Seat warmers/ventilation, remote start, navigation system, lombard, 10. AND heavily tinted window. 11. Almost forgot, complete suspension overhaul, try to at least get it to 1 G on the skid pad.
Yep, thats it, pretty much a sleeper, unless you can hear it
Yeah, I own a little econo Fiero, nothing special really
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NSAN1T Member
Posts: 698 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
I like you're combinations and would spent most of the day viewing it too...especially the SD4 widebody idea. So, you you tub the rear for wider rim/tires? Your first one reminds with blue paint and strips reminds of Rickaddy's Fiero minus the add-ons you've mentioned. It seems you you're leaning towards wide bodies vs. Stock body?
"wider is better"
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
I would start out with a 88 coupe, maroon with t-tops. 3. 18-19" chrome five spoke rims (don't want to go too California) Yep, thats it, pretty much a sleeper, unless you can hear it
Yeah, I own a little econo Fiero, nothing special really
Hmm. A couple of "sleepers" on board. That's the same idea Mr. TV had in mind with his 600+ LT1 (sleeper). Although his rims size is smaller vs. the 18-19 combos. He viewed his car as a 'sleeper" but that was far from it IMO. You could hear him a mile away. Plus it was paited red.
Question. What about your interior, would it be tweeked? Since you've mentioned that it would be tinted.
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fierogt3800 Member
Posts: 1410 From: Keokuk, Iowa Registered: Feb 2006
i just outdid myself.. :P a bone stock 85cp with factory steelies, w/ a built dsm 4G63T swap huge turbo, fmic in trunk, 2.3 stroke kit, forged and treated everything, big injectors, engine managment, stutter box, timer, gears, cams, no exaust. 800-1000HP 4cyl that looks stock and sounds like crap. call all of the rich kids up and tell them your fiero vs. thier supras, f430s, gallardos, what ever. for pinks.
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MclarenF1 Member
Posts: 639 From: Kingston, WA Registered: May 2006
fastback 17" 18" magnesium wheels (staggered of course) and low-pro Y-rated tires 14" Brembo brakes widebody to give it an agressive stance fixed headlights (non flippy ones) flat underside with front and rear diffusers and venturi tunnels (functional of course) Cadillac Northstar with VVT and a redline to over 8000rpm with a full titanium exhaust system (dual exhaust) coilover suspension all around Koni shocks and struts tubular control arms Sparco racing seats Sparco suede steering wheel short shifter racing pedals 3" chop with rear glass but with lexan instead of glass Tubular titanium frame replace all windows with lexan Mclaren F1 type doors carbon fiber body panels redesigned interior (similar to a Pagani Zonda F) rear back up camera decklid and hood vents NSX 6-speed transmission poly bushings
Hmm. A couple of "sleepers" on board. That's the same idea Mr. TV had in mind with his 600+ LT1 (sleeper). Although his rims size is smaller vs. the 18-19 combos. He viewed his car as a 'sleeper" but that was far from it IMO. You could hear him a mile away. Plus it was paited red.
Question. What about your interior, would it be tweeked? Since you've mentioned that it would be tinted.
I think I remember that car, one of the most amazing I've seen from a technical stand point. I forgot I was talking about fieros when I said 18-19, its a smaller car than a F-body, so I would have to go with 17-18. Interior? I do like the seats in the fiero, and how the instrument cluster is seperate from the dash, but... I think I would do a Firebird interior, or something like a mix of stock with 3000GT dash, ect. I love the stock fiero look, I don't especially care for a sleeper, I just like stock.
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fieroman87 Member
Posts: 647 From: Lancaster, PA Registered: Nov 2003
Basically, I'd just finish my current plans (some of this stuff is already bought or installed): Body: 355 front Low-Profile headlights w/ HIDs Small hoodvent (haven't decided on what style exactly yet) Shaved trim/door handles Stage 2s with Stage 2 trim Sideskirts- stock or modified PISAs similar to your silver chop Fastback 20% tint on door, back and quarter window glass with 5% strip on windshield Mustang decklid vent Wingless 355 style tails 360 rear with diffuser
Interior: Black 3S dash and door panels with buttons to pop doors Carputer with 7in touch screen in place of cd player Mr.Mike's 355 style black Seats with Harness slots 4 point black harnesses Black Carpet/Headliner (headliner w/ no dome light or visors) JL Audio 10W6v2 behind each seat Components in stock locations Aftermarket steering wheel, peddles, shift knob Autometer CF series guages in stock 3S locations as well as 2 pod A pillar
Drivetrain: Turbo Northstar w/ 6 speed
Suspension: Rear coilovers Front tubular suspension Koni shocks 18x7/19x9.5" HP Racing EVOs wrapped with Falken FK451s 205F/265R (with more money I'd get something lighter)
Brakes: 13" set-up
Obviously there's more smaller details, but that about covers it.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
it'll blow peoples minds, unfortunately none will see it till after the 25th, i very much doubt i'll be able to make that deadline
can say this though, it'll have over 600 hp
Geezs, that suck since the 25th is perhaps the biggest and most important meet for all Fiero owners. I hope you can "get'r done" within 18 months otherwise, you'll have to wait until the 30th.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
17" 18" magnesium wheels (staggered of course) and low-pro Y-rated tires 14" Brembo brakes widebody to give it an agressive stance flat underside with front and rear diffusers and venturi tunnels (functional of course) Cadillac Northstar with VVT and a redline to over 8000rpm with a full titanium exhaust system (dual exhaust) 14" Brembo brakes widebody to give it an agressive stance flat underside with front and rear diffusers and venturi tunnels (functional of course) 3" chop with rear glass but with lexan instead of glass Tubular titanium frame Mclaren F1 type doors carbon fiber body panels redesigned interior (similar to a Pagani Zonda F) rear back up camera decklid and hood vents NSX 6-speed transmission
I think that's everything.
Oh baby! That's some good ingredients . Question. What type of side vents? None?
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MclarenF1 Member
Posts: 639 From: Kingston, WA Registered: May 2006
Oh baby! That's some good ingredients . Question. What type of side vents? None?
oops I forgot that. The vents have to be symmetrical. C6 Zo6 type fender vents to allow more efficient front brake cooling, and side intakes similar to a Ferrari F50 but with a little bit of Koenigsegg CCX thrown in there. And some 355 tail lights. Maybe also routing the exhaust similar to a Laraki Fulgara. Boy do I need to win the lottery...
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PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
For 30k, I'd get rid of the fiero and get either a used NSX, jag XK8 or a brand new Miata convertible + a case of beer + a weekend in Vegas with a stop at the Bunny Ranch
After seeing the pictures, I've decided on mine... I'd make my '87 GT into a replica of the '90 prototype. That's what I'd do. Screw ricing it up with, well, I won't point fingers... or swapping for a bigger and less efficient engine... I'd make it into something uber modern! Those pictures of the '90 Fiero car were so refreshing, hold so much potential... it's begging "Build me! Build me!". I was looking for a way to make the interior more modern...
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Jarhead 2m4 Member
Posts: 1849 From: Missouri City, TX Registered: Jun 2006
No, no... there was just one Fiero I saw somewhere on the forum that was so extremely awesome-ified it became nearly impractical. I absolutely love the car... it's just one of those cars that's like "NO, you can't drive it, you'll ruin it! It's not a driving car!"...
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Jarhead 2m4 Member
Posts: 1849 From: Missouri City, TX Registered: Jun 2006
Nope. I didn't. It was a dual-car 30k dream and it tokk more time to look at it, hehe. Here's what I'v noticed.
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30k to spend on what I want in a Fiero? Does it have to be in 1 Fiero? -1986 Fiero SE- Engine: 3.4L DOHC V6 (LQ1) turbocharged. Brakes: Grand Am or LeBaron upgrade all around. Is there a brake upgrade where I can keep the ebrake? Exterior: Repaint the body panels in Metallic blue. I'd try to get some smooth molding on there somehow, yet keeping the Aero Notchback look. I'd probably also get some scoops from Aus. Wheels: 17x7 front and 17x8 rear wheels, in chrome. 225/45/17 front tires, 245/40/17 rear tires. bass speakers from a 4th gen F-body to put in the doors, replacing the mappockets.
1988 Fiero GT: Engine: 4.6L DOHC Northstar V8. 300 hp version. Transmission: 6-speed manual from NSX (West Coast Fieros). Brakes: Corvette 13" brakes all around. I really wish they could keep the ebrake. Exterior: Nothing. Possibly a re-paint in the same color paint, since its old. Wheels: Same 17" wheels that are currently on the car. Same tires.
Hmm. Very nice items on the list especially the N* 6-speed NSX tranny and 13" brakes but, it seems there's nothing to match on the outside of the car? What would you do to make the exterior "pop"? I believe the Aus scoops PRODUCTION has ended? Wheels? Width/size? Anything wider that 8"?
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
No, no... there was just one Fiero I saw somewhere on the forum that was so extremely awesome-ified it became nearly impractical. I absolutely love the car... it's just one of those cars that's like "NO, you can't drive it, you'll ruin it! It's not a driving car!"...
Yep. Someone also did a choptop photoshop that was out-of-this world! Btw, they did some crude measurements of the 1990 concept Fiero at the 20th but nothing never happened.
Hmm. Very nice items on the list especially the N* 6-speed NSX tranny and 13" brakes but, it seems there's nothing to match on the outside of the car? What would you do to make the exterior "pop"? I believe the Aus scoops PRODUCTION has ended? Wheels? Width/size? Anything wider that 8"?
Aus scoops production has ended!? NOOOOOOOOOO! Those were the only scoops I wanted, .
I think the exterior of these cars "pops" enough stock, if painted nice they look very clean and smooth without any mods, IMO. The '88 GT gets plenty of looks as it is, being that its the only Fiero around here I've seen besides my '86 SE. To bring the '86 SE up to date it just needs some good monotone paint (keep the trim black), it needs to have the backs of the glass sailpanels cleaned so the "ghost adhesive" goes away, and it needs its tail lights cleaned.
Both cars would probably look a lot like sleepers. I might put a single vent in the hood on the '86 to draw air out of the radiator and to relieve air pressure up there at high speeds. Everything else body-wise I want stock. That way both cars will still look like sleepers .
Wheels, I don't want to go too extreme since I'm trying to stay realistic. Now that I think about it though, the 235 width rear tires on the '88 probably can't hold the N* to the road. I'm probably want to go up to like 275's with 18x9 rear wheels, while keeping the fronts at 225 with 17x7.5 wheels. The '86 I'd probably do the same, but with different color/style wheels.
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Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
i'm 27 but i would buy the car from this thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/062900.html choptop targatop it and custom make a body that almost looks like a fiero with collapsable gullwing doors. i would recess the front headlights inside a custom front bumper similar to yellowstones. ( but with the headlights behind the grill). the lail lights i would use a very fine wire mesh, or metal screen over the lenses but painted the color of the car... as for the color... that's what would set the whole thing off... almost like dupli-color's ice kit mirage paint. i would paint the entire car that color and i would get black 17' front rims and 18" rears all deep dish... then i would have the rims painted only on the lips with the color of the car. that's just the outside look but honestly i don't have time right now to go into the interior, engine or suspension.... maybe later if i have time to kill... i have the whole car mapped out on paper with a price tag to go with it... when i was done it would be about $28,000. it would be a crazy looking car, a real head turner.
Originally posted by madcurl: Nothing really but, sometimes [the yougin's] due to they're age (unbreakableness), no-safety restants, and endless $$$ while living at home (no kids, morgage), they have the oppertunity to venture into areas that other folks [like us] tend not to venture or exposed to.
"endless $$$ while living at home" I wish this was true for me, my budget is so tight that, OH WAIT, I have no budget, I need a job.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
i'm 27 but i would buy the car from this thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/062900.html choptop targatop it and custom make a body that almost looks like a fiero with collapsable gullwing doors. i would recess the front headlights inside a custom front bumper similar to yellowstones. ( but with the headlights behind the grill). the lail lights i would use a very fine wire mesh, or metal screen over the lenses but painted the color of the car... as for the color... that's what would set the whole thing off... almost like dupli-color's ice kit mirage paint. i would paint the entire car that color and i would get black 17' front rims and 18" rears all deep dish... then i would have the rims painted only on the lips with the color of the car. that's just the outside look but honestly i don't have time right now to go into the interior, engine or suspension.... maybe later if i have time to kill... i have the whole car mapped out on paper with a price tag to go with it... when i was done it would be about $28,000. it would be a crazy looking car, a real head turner.
Nice. So you'd basically would have a streched Wide body Fiero? Cool.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Wheels, I don't want to go too extreme since I'm trying to stay realistic. Now that I think about it though, the 235 width rear tires on the '88 probably can't hold the N* to the road. I'm probably want to go up to like 275's with 18x9 rear wheels, while keeping the fronts at 225 with 17x7.5 wheels. The '86 I'd probably do the same, but with different color/style wheels.
18x9's? You'll get no arguments from me.
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4-mulaGT Member
Posts: 1210 From: Somewhere beetween raisin' hell... and saving grace. oh... and MN Registered: Jan 2006
Hmm. So taking bit and pieces from various cars and continued tweeking on those items is the way to go for you? Question, how would you install the NSX headlamps using existing Fiero bumper?
With the items you've mentioned, how wide would your tire/rim be?
Well since I would have a custom front bumper, most likely fiber glass the installation probably would go a lot like on troy boys ride. The existing bumper being urathane, I can see an installation being very trickky to make it clean. The tries wouls be 18x8 in front and 18x8 ir 19x8.5 in rear with 225s up front, and 255 in the rear. the stagger would look great but the unsprung weight doesnt sound to good.
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Jermz238 Member
Posts: 1637 From: Newark, California Registered: Jan 2006
For 30k, I'd get rid of the fiero and get either a used NSX, jag XK8 or a brand new Miata convertible + a case of beer + a weekend in Vegas with a stop at the Bunny Ranch
that would be a VERY used NSX, as i havent seen a running one with under 150k for any less than $35,000
XK8, i hope you have another 30k to keep it running :]
the third thing sounds pretty good tho, although i wouldn't pick the miata probably
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Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
I don't know if this would actually make 30k or more but here we go.
1. Pay someone to fit the 3.6L DOHC with the g6 6sp auto in it. OR pay someone to fit the new G6 6sp auto to a N*
2. Fashion a proper tapshifter like ryan.hess has
3. HMS slalom suspension ( fender flares too)
4. Koni coilovers in the rear... 88 car
5. flushmount headlamps
6. twin nostril vents on the hood
7. The mad-arch fender over quarter rear flare system.
8. Widest tires i could fit with split spoke rims
9. Stage 2 side scoops
10. spoilerless or small rear lip
11. power steering with a quickener
12. small 13 or 12 inch wheel with flat bottom
13. relocate the batt, strut braces, hunking sway bars, 3 point harness, mr. mike's leather etc
Basically I want to exploit the fiero base to it's fullest potential while still keeping original lines and look and accentuating what I think the designers would have done if their hands weren't tied by budget.
EDIT: I'm 23
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($12k)Engine: Supercharged NorthStar - A 4.4 L (4371 cc/266 in³) supercharged Northstar is used in the 2006 Cadillac STS-V and Cadillac XLR-V. The bore was reduced for increased strength. Variable valve timing is used on both the intake and exhaust sides. The STS-V engine produces 469 hp (350 kW) at 6400 rpm and 439 ft·lbf (595 N·m) at 3900 rpm with 9.0:1 compression and the XLR-V engine produces 443 hp (330 kW) at 6400 rpm and 414 ft·lbf (561 N·m) at 3900 rpm .
(frontrear$2k)Wheels: BBS RXII Powder coated black with a 21 on rear 19 on front. (They don't make a 20 inch version) And make them the widest I can to match the widebody.
Exterior: (do it yourself for cheap)-Hood - Evo Like hood
($40 scoop cost then do it yourself) -Reardeck Lid - Mustang hood scoop fiberglassed wider to fit the rear from vent to vent.
($150 -Rear quarters - Fiberglass in some boxster looking quarters
(price?) -Widebody -1inch-1 1/2inch on both sides. But while making this find a way for the rear sail panels to flow back into camaro style rear wing.(that make sense (see picture)) ($3k) -Choptop -via Archie (price?) -Suspension - Air ride on all 4 corners. (price?) -Brake -13 inch vette brakes (price?) -Paint -Black with a red pearl
Interior ($649 per seat (leather)) -Black leather Corbeau VX2000 Seats with 5 point Racing straps
(price?) -Firebird dash leather wrapped by a interior shop. (price?) -CNC aluminium bezels and surrounds -TTops
I'm 21
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NSAN1T Member
Posts: 698 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Originally posted by Silentassassin185: Engine: Supercharged NorthStar - A 4.4 L (4371 cc/266 in³) supercharged Northstar is used in the 2006 Cadillac STS-V and Cadillac XLR-V. The bore was reduced for increased strength. Variable valve timing is used on both the intake and exhaust sides. The STS-V engine produces 469 hp (350 kW) at 6400 rpm and 439 ft·lbf (595 N·m) at 3900 rpm with 9.0:1 compression and the XLR-V engine produces 443 hp (330 kW) at 6400 rpm and 414 ft·lbf (561 N·m) at 3900 rpm .
HEY!!! you took my engine idea you better whatch yourself!!!
j/k thats a kickas engine though put it with a 6speed trans and ouch