I would do this just the way it is. Painted diamond graphite.
A G6 interior Sparco seats LS9 mounted longitudinally (Manual) 15" break upgrade HREs with blacked out centers and crome lip 20x10 rears 19x9 fronts Powersteering to turn the massive wheels 5% tint all around Ferrari head and tail lights Alpine sound system w/ double din touch screen
I think that just about uses 30K.
You got 30K burning a hole in your pocket?
Ryan
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Julian Member
Posts: 515 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Nov 2000
You guys sure know your aftermarket upgrades. And now for thinking outside the box........ I think it would be cool to take the $30k and buy a used Ferrari 308, then I would slap a FIERO or even better a MERA emblem on the nose.
Keep them wondering.
(sorry Curley, I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but I couldn't resist......no hard feellings?)
Hey, how come nobody wants to put a 400hp LS2 or a 430hp LS3 in their Fiero?
And for that matter, if you could wait a year or so, how about one of those nice little 6.2 liter supercharged LS9 engines that cranks out 620hp? (Boy would that be a rush) If only we could get a transaxle that could stand up to the hp and torque.
-Bob (over 25, but only by a factor of 2, + a little)
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AutoTech Member
Posts: 2385 From: St. Charles, Illinois Registered: Aug 2004
For me who has spent over that... I would just have waited for someone else who has done the same, and choose to sell their car and avoid the wait! (1+ years for the interior, 1 year for the motor swap, now around 3 years at Norm's) *Not saying that it isn't worth it, but gas has over doubled since last I drove it!
But to answer your thread, I would do everything that I have done... Norm's front C6 flipper, 12" Wilwood brakes, Held front slalom suspension, 88 rear cradle + suspension, coil-overs, modified 3800 SII SC, custom interior, dietmar rocker scoops, custom side scoops, Mr. Mike's seats, Dakota digital gauges, Ronal LZ wheels with P-Zero's, front mount battery, etc.
Madcurl, Thanks for revitalizing this thread. Still cleverly avoids my initial question, but I didn't really expect an answer!
$30,000? I too would use Arch Rival as the sexy twenty-something starving art student model. She's hot, so from an exterior body perspective, I'd do exactly that! Just wish I knew what's invested!
But since I DON'T KNOW what kind of bite that would be into the $30k budget, I'd have to build it up from my current LS4 project on my 87' GT 5sp Fiero, where I've already got about $17K invested in the following:
LS4 V8 5.3L Engine Ported Heads HPTuning Software Custom Exhaust with C6 Corvette Tips Custom Forced Air Induction
Reconditioned and powder-coated control arms all around Recond' and powder-coated spindles New Front Ball joints and rear & front tie rods Rear HD Sway Bar WCF performance springs and rear coilover kit w/ Koni Shocks and Struts Complete Poly-U bushing kit all around
Mr Mike Leather Vette seats All Interior dash/door/trim repainted to match seats New Black Carpet New headliner and vinyl fire wall 180mph speedo kit DIC computer from Grand Prix Remote Key Start Keyless Entry Kit
So, if I can do the exterior Arch Rival treatment for less than $10,000 (I doubt it!) that would leave $2000 for a Matte Black Satin w/ high gloss black adidas-like racing stripes end to end, and $1000 left to spend in a stereo/sirrus radio upgrade.
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Feb 7th, 2008
nfswift Member
Posts: 82 From: British Columbia Registered: Mar 2006
Wide expensive rubber, as wide as it gets without rubbing or going widebody. Larger rims to accept said expensive rubber. Biiig brakes, as big as said rims will allow. Coilovers all around, something that will lower the car and track/drag race well. Swaybars front and back, for flat performance handling. An LLT swap, GMs 3.6L direct injection DOHC V6, and about 8-10PSI on a Garrett GT. Engine management to handle said tasty V6/turbo. The best standard transmission I could find. A bigger gas tank! Hood vent for high speed foolery. Roll cage for high speed foolery. And lastly a skid plate, for those days you have to rally the car! =P
Everything else is perfect...
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Engine. Which type? LS1 or LSx with lots o mods. maybe even supercharged.
Suspension. Brakes, which size? Corvette C6 brakes.
Exterior body modification: What type, wide-body.... No chop top, sorry. Its really cool but I won't have enough head room. Blacked out taillights, green paint, things i dont know yet.
Rim/tires. Which type, size? Sweet looking rims, 16-17 inches.
Mr.mikes seats. Maybe a dash swap. If not i want the digital guages available for the stock dash and beechwood interior.
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build a formula with gt top clip. paint metallic maroon rebuild syspension powercoat frame 11.5 brakes nice 16" rims electric conversion to get 150 miles per charge at 75 mph. no emissions at all!!!! fu kalifornia.
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kevin Member
Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
Ed Pink built Ecotec turbo 6 speed tranny Complete Held suspensioin with Poly 18 inch rear tires/17 inch front 1.5 lower in front /1 inch lower in rear--full coil over with drop spindles Extractor hood scoop Trans Am extractors behind each front wheel 3 piece racing rims (street legal of course) side intakes, custom built from Curly's mold--its the best ones I've seen Toyota dark green paint, highly polished Complete upgraded stereo system Corvette C-5 leather sport seats--with seat warmers and speakers in head-rests Upgraded carpet---the type used in Bently's Corvette brakes all around Front/rear end caps from four.ninefiero (on Pennocks Forum) in Wahsington State Total Cost: $27,898 This will be one beautiful Notchie -----------------------only 5 lucky lottery numbers away
(I think there is a LARGE pickle growing in my pants)
Cordially, Kevin
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alright mad: engine: TT SBC with a 6spd G6 tranny. body: black on black on black on black notchie widebody. (gloss black/ 20% tint/gloss black wheels, etc etc) wheels: 20x8 5 spokes in the back, 19x7 in the front ( all black mind you) Tires: nothin better than the hydroedges suspension: smooth/soft drop brakes: as big as they can get, pref cross-drilled/slotted carbon metallic and 6pots in the front and 4 in the rear, with ONE CALIPER painted lime green INTERIOR: 100% restored level 3 trim (sheepskin/suede) new speakers all around. Digit Dash. for everything. tach. boost. mph. gas. oil. temp. etc flush center console. concealed ported subwoofer. an actual glove box Badges: 100% debadged except for FIERO on the trunk in chrome
to finish it off: a lime green bandana tied to one of the spolier supports
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pacethis Member
Posts: 510 From: Simpsonville, SC USA Registered: Jun 2005
You youngin's... since you "love" you're beloved Fiero so much, what type of modification would you apply to your Fiero if you had say..hypothetically had 30k to modernize the Fiero? I'm looking for comments from those whos ages are between 17-25 yrs old. Please leave the excusses, I'd never change it cause it's a relic, 13" rims are my friend, and K-fed comments at home...stick to the question dang nab bit.
Keep in mind, you have to use extisting Fiero companies and various products that can be used for the Fiero and not some type pipe-dream out of this world ideas. 30K?
Engine. Which type?
Suspension. Brakes, which size?
Exterior body modification: What type, wide-body....
Rim/tires. Which type, size?
Which ones do you think would have the greastest "pop" in giving the Fiero greater exposure? A good exposure IMO was Kooljess's car featured in a upcomming movie and jscott's in Staying Alive. Both cars, although it only reveiled mostly the exterior gave the newbees something to think about.
Okay, if you really wanted to modernize it...and spend 30k, that's a lot of spare change...
I'd probably go ultra custom for modernization and start over from scratch. Probably find a C5 Corvette donor and rework the frame to go midengine (shouldn't be too hard), then dress the body onto the frame as desired. Of course, it's not technically a Fiero any more, but it could be made to be quite convincing. You'd get a lot of advantages in the way of a modern frame, and could keep aspects such as airbags to your liking. You could have modern suspension that would outhandle most sports cars on the road today, with big brakes as well. A suitable donor would cost about 10k, and you could sell a number of parts off of that to recoupe some of the investment. That'd leave you with a sizeable budget still for the build and body, giving a modern interpretation of a mid-engine Fiero...
Sorry, just can't think of another way to spend 30k on a Fiero that really makes sense...Fiero's are really quite heavy for their size (ever pick up a Fiero door vs a modern corvette door?)
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Oct 23rd, 2008
hammer18 Member
Posts: 383 From: Maplewood Minnesota Registered: Jun 2007
id go all out performance first. 30 grand. i could do a lot on that..... do we have to include the labor if we could do that ourselves im goin labor free. 327 sbc- pretty cheap(327 had a shorter crank for quicker revs) high perf fuel pump- $300 16" rims-1000 for rims and tires 13" held brakes - 1300 for brakes racing seats-400 supercharger kit-4500 racing fuel cell-300 hei ignition-200 for all ignition componets racing tuned ecm-500 1" lowering springs-1100 1"lowering spindles-200 for total aboult 3" clearance plexiglass side and rear windows-200 weld my own doors tube steel-500for steel and brackets custom water trap-50 larger air box and filter-300 six speed manual-2500 hood vents-100 home fiberglass kit custom paintjob at a vocational center(labor free done by students who want experience)-1000 larger radiator and coolant tubes-450 new headlights dual beam under hood stationary(less wind resistance when at speed) choptop1.5"-i forgot what archie was chargin but i think this would put me at 30k i lost track
nice ride i dont have there right ! .....lol im all out performance. my interior would consist of the stock everything that is completely a NEED no carpet no panels remove the dash keep gauges though. remove the shift console surround all speakers and a/c. remove spare tire relocate battery. keep the heater core and fan. plexiglass windows are power....its actually not too much wheight diff than roll up im dreamin also im 17 and ambitious.. this will be my car someday. edit: oops you said modernize i though you said customize my bad modernizing is a diff story basicly nothing that money can pay for id go work for gm and bring back the fiero as a model of the corvette the "corvette fiero" itd look like a fiero and run like a corvette only faster and more refined than the zr1s
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Jarhead 2m4 Member
Posts: 1849 From: Missouri City, TX Registered: Jun 2006
I still want a supercharged ecotec. The new turbo Cobalts are sounding pretty good with over 260hp. If I knew more about how to properly set up turbos I would be more likely to use one ...or two.
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BabyVet Member
Posts: 1173 From: Kansas City, Kansas Registered: May 2008
lets see id do somthing diffrent with the engine possabley ferrari V8 or ls7 turbocharged interior i dont know because i geuss im a rare kid who actuley likes the fieros interior exterior probabley what im doing now the yellowstone look and a nice set of rims
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
First off I'd finish my 85GT convertible project, and install a turbo Ecotec with an auto in it. I would also like to do an LS4 swap but that might end up being too hard on gas. For body mods something similar to the "perfect union" custom style for my 87 3.4L turbo looks great for my taste. Heck now I'm at $50K !!!!
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Oct 26th, 2008
vortecfiero Member
Posts: 996 From: Toronto Area, Canada Registered: Feb 2002
sell my almost completed project and buy a "previously enjoyed" Porsche or Lotus lol seriously... id look at an Audi V8 or a Nissan 3.5 V6 engine and start all over again
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87 Fiero GT 5sp with Vortec L35 4300 Turbocharged V6 Bully Stage 2 clutch Syclone intake manifold and engine management with Moates adapter and chip burner Air/water intercooler and Devil's Own progressive water/alky injection 50lb injectors, 3 bar map sensor, Walboro fuel pump and Jabasco Intercooler pump LM1 wideband on custom manifolds and 3" stainless exhaust system T31/T04B H3 turbo and a S10 caliper conversion. Murphy's Constant Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics Things get worse under pressure. Arthur C. Clarke "Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
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Nov 30th, 2008
madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
i would start off with a very clean 87 gt v8 archie v8 kit 327 block get custom titanium rods made,forged pistons, stick a big cam in it,aluminum heads,gear drive, vintage crossram with 2 holly's get everything including the heads painted chevy orange while leaveing the aluminum cross ram natural. 8500rpm redline straight 3 inch exaust build 5 speed
exterior i love the imsa kit with standard front fenders no deck lid to see the badass sbc sitting sideways. mold the little fog/marker lights on the front bumper smooth otherwise a stock body 5% tint cragar 15x12 s/s on m&h slicks in the rear 15x7 on 215's paint it gloss black with a little mooneyes(you older guys will know what it is) logo right in front of the doors tinted tails
suspension i cant think of the company if you guys do feel free to add. it converts the front to tubular arms and coils west coast fiero rear coil overs with konis front and rear sway bars
interior neon srt-4 seats with 5 point harness's sun super tach grant gt wheel custom hurst shifter
ill add my new style fiero tomrrow but i would love to see a vintage style one like this done and i will have a cross rammed 327 in a gt someday
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Okay, maybe it's not 30k mod, but atleast somebody is thinking out of the box.
The Mad-Arch wide body w/350Z glass. IMO for a bubble top it's the better of the three styles out there for a Fiero. Why? For starters, the glass is smaller compared to the Finale and it doesn't use the bigger and flatter 300Z glass. Granted, I would've pulled the C-pillars inward for a curvature flow.
As noted on #020 I would ramp-up the sail window (smaller window) for a sleek flow backwards. No need to leave no stone left unturned. ------------------
"Friends don't let friends drive stock"
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JesseM Member
Posts: 576 From: Lynchburg, Virginia Registered: Aug 2007
well i guess i'll go now? im 19 i have a 1987 3.8 sc GT in reality my fiancee (<--- yes im 19 and getting married ya i know im nuts) hates my car and i cant spend a dime on it.... so ill fantasize here first i would buy the new cradle Dave held ROCKER cradle for a longitudinal swap, next would be the Transmission i would either use an Audi or a Porsche trans but it would have to be Hardened everything top notch, then the motor, i would get a 3.8 sc however the block would be bored .20 over with forged pistons, i would have ported aluminum heads, electric water pump, maybe a custom cam for my motor set up or an xpz with 1.7 roller rockers, i would like to keep my ported Gen 3 blower but because you said current and my top secret project is still under wraps until done I'd go for 2 T-70 turbo tectonics turbo's for a Twin Turbo motor upwards of 700 WHP baby, now over that beast of a motor i would do a stretched W body fiero maybe the aftermarket Vette looking nose or a custom creation, then to stop the car i would go with 13 in vette break upgrade, Rims TSW light weight spoke rims, interior uhh well has to be on the market now then, the pisa wrap around dash. reccaro racing seats and a momo steering wheel with a 4 pt role cage
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Australian Member
Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
Indy style wide body, custom nose and lights, S/C 4.3 4 speed, done by Ryan Glick, Mr. Mike's leather, Vette tail lights, and custom dash and console. Who gets to pay for all this?
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Hockaday Member
Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
integrated nose / fender paintball guns...to shoot out those blimey headlights at MY eye level...and spend the est on buying out the cops so i have a free pass while driving....
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katore8105 Member
Posts: 1519 From: Upstate NY US Registered: Dec 2009
engine: 3800 l67 with t70 turbo, zzp aluminum heads, new rockers, lifters, springs, w/w ic and a/w ic, xpz cam, elec wp, perf cp conversion, among other engine mods pushing about 700-750 hp. 17" profile crome wheels (not sure which design yet) 3000 gt dash conversion with digital guages porsche brakes 88 RRC conversion w/ 275 coilovers T tops archie rocker pannel / side scoop conversion with a custom front and rear bumper. front / rear sways 4t65E-HD rebuilt w/ all hardened parts
If I think of anything else, I will edit.
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Now that my poor GT has a gas leak, I've gotten more restless. The F40 6-speed tranny is on order and should be here soon. And it looks like I'll be getting an LS4 and either going with DoD if I can reprogram the chip to handle it properly, or going with another LSx intake, no DoD, and the appropriate LSx PCM programmed for manual.
As soon as I get my S10 back in commission, I'll be shopping around for a wrecked GP GXP, or associated pieces of, and start tearing the Fiero down to get ready for a total rebuild.
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82-T/A [At Work] Member
Posts: 24136 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
Well, modernizing a Fiero would really change it from being the "Fiero" that we know.
But if you're just talking suspension / mechanicals... then I'd probably start off with a fully loaded Formula.
Then I'd upgrade it with a Solstice 2.2 Turbo engine and a 6-Speed manual from the G6-GTP. I'd pretty much keep a relatively stock 88 suspension, but I'd go with tighter springs and slightly softer shocks. I'd also upgrade the brakes to something just a little bit better, but I wouldn't go crazy... just something that compared with say a Solstice GTP brake setup.
That would pretty much be it. I might make the rear window roll down, and maybe add heated seats and lumbar support (which I know came optional on 88 GTs)...
I wouldn't change too much in terms of the look and feel though... I would like to see something that looked like factory fog lamps though.
$30k you say??? hmmmm, not that I'm that young anymore. but I'd either make a Lamo Mucielago replica with some form of turbo'd v8.
or make an 88 chop top fast back (wide body kit) with a 5-speed or 6-speed manual transmission and an LS1 engine with a mild came, fully ported heads and custom headers with some nice exhaust. probably add lambo door hinges, 13" brake upgrade, aftermarket sway bars, tubular control arms, and have a Trans Am/Firebird Dash put in, but make my own center console. Also, either a removeable or electric roll down rear window. 18 " black wheels with chrome/polished lip. My color of choice for the car would be a gunmetal Silver with Silver Flake Clearcoat. oh and some low profile custom headlights too.
so who is going to write me a check ????? HAHAHAHA
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