I haven't been on here too much lately, but when I saw the threads, I went back and read it all...
After reading your story, we feel as if we knew you even if just for a little while. Rest in peace Tyler, and our sincerest sympathy to the Shipman Family.
Bruce and Sheryl Kirby
Donation sent
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09:26 PM
Misery Member
Posts: 172 From: Noblesville, Indiana, USA Registered: May 2005
Synthesis I do understand but with all due respects ... without PFF this would of remained an unfulfilled dream ....and if I'm reading this right we are collecting funds from THIS site for the flowers... and PEGASUS is not known as related to the Fiero as you may think .... just google search Pegasus and you will see ....
Danyel
There is nothing worse/tacky than shouting 'look at us' during a time like this...
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I agree, but it could have been said a bit nicer...
Danyel, I see your viewpoint as well.
I don't think we need to have any recognition for this. We did what we did not to get pats on the back, but to give something of ourselves. In the process, we gained so much more than we could have expected.
I just think in this particular case, simpler is better, and everyone, and I mean EVERYONE will know that we sent it from our community of car lovers for the family of one of our own.
There are more people than just PFF donating for the flowers, and to the Benefit fund to help defray costs. Many of those people did not know who Tyler was, until we did the build and garnered media attention.
So, back on track. Yes, I agree we should have either a small card, or, as I envision (and we do not have to choose this), a small Pegasus plaque attached that simply means "From our family to yours" without having to use any words. A poignant gesture full of meaning.
I agree with Chris
If not for the Pontiac Fiero, none of this would have taken place for Tyler.
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DIY_Stu Member
Posts: 2337 From: Republic of TX Registered: Jun 2007
John and I were speaking of this last night and figured just a simple tag that IF LOOKED FOR would read "With Love, Your extended Fiero Family." That's it. If someone wanted to know who sent it then they could find out. If not let's not shove it in their face. Just an idea.
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11:26 PM
Synthesis Member
Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
John and I were speaking of this last night and figured just a simple tag that IF LOOKED FOR would read "With Love, Your extended Fiero Family." That's it. If someone wanted to know who sent it then they could find out. If not let's not shove it in their face. Just an idea.
Just to make sure all understood the sense of what I was writing I guess must of been the "Frenchy Thingy" that made the sense came out wrong for some people ... I only mentioned this because it should only be a card ........no logos or what not............ I did not say a banner just a large card with the PFF logo saying something like from your extended family. I am not the type of person who would commercialize someones death ... if that what was understood than you really don't have a clue to who I am or what I have been doing. Tyler has been a source of inspiration to me and many ... I devote over 10 hours of work per week to maintain and upgrade tylerstoy.com (Total hours so far OVER 560). I will always make sure his site is up and running so all can remember who Tyler was...... financial gain = $0.00 USD. Like I said one day --- " what one person writes on a forum can be interpreted 1000 ways "
OOHHH by he way still have some T-Shirts left
Danyel site admin tylerstoy.com
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Hulki U. My-BFF Member
Posts: 5949 From: Back home in East Berlin, PA Registered: Apr 2008
Now is not the time for internet bickering, so let's ALL put our drama away for a little while. I agree with Stu and John 100%. I just wish I could be at the service, but it is impossible. Chris, Stu, John, or anyone else who may be at the service, please express to the Shipman family my condolences, as well as my gratitude, admiration, and respect. Tyler was truly an angel well before his name was called.
As a guy who grew up in far northern Wisconsin and who later survived serious cancer myself (they gave me 18 months to live), this story really struck me when I first joined this forum a couple months ago. Many thanks to all you guys who helped Tyler and reminded the country that love is still on the move. Contribution sent.
I am not very good with words at times like this because I don't think there are any words that would make a difference right now. I am so very sorry for your loss Mr. and Mrs. Shipman. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.
To All Parents by Edgar Guest
"I'll lend you for a little time a child of mine," He said. "For you to love the while he lives and mourn when he is dead, "It may be six or seven years, or twenty-two or three, "But will you, till I call him back, take care of him for me?
"He'll bring his charms to gladden you, but should his stay be brief, "You'll have his lovely memories, as solace for your grief, "I cannot promise he will stay, since all from earth return, "But there are lessons taught down there I want this child to learn.
"I've looked the wide world over in my search for teachers true, "And from the throngs that crowd life's lanes I have selected you. "Now will you give him all your love, nor think the labor vain, "Nor hate me when I come to call to take him back again?
I fancied that I heard them say: "Dear Lord, Thy will be done! "For all the joy Thy child shall bring, the risk of grief we'll run. We'll shelter him with tenderness; we'll love him while we may, And for happiness we've known forever grateful stay.
"But should the angels call for him much sooner than we'd planned, "We'll brave the bitter grief that comes and try to understand."
Our prayers for the Shippman family, from the Muller family.
Tyler, we owe you so much, you brought us all closer, you gave us so much to be happy about, to cheer about, to cry about, you inspired us, we will always remember you, our lives were so much better for knowing you.
To the Dream team: Thank you, you are each incredible human beings.
To PFF (Cliff Pennock): Without you none of this would have happened, you formed this site and this community, thank you.
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10:29 PM
RUNDLC Member
Posts: 802 From: Elk Grove, California Registered: Jul 2005
Rest in Peace my friend. Your memory will be with the our community forever. I has been an honor to be able to help you realize your dream. The experience has taught us a very important life lesson.
Donation sent.
Fred and Annette
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10:40 PM
fieroguy123 Member
Posts: 1523 From: Indianapolis Registered: Sep 2009
My donation is on going i am hosting the website http://www.Tylerstoy.com and I am asking everybody to link to this website. It is Tylers official build site. The more hard links placed will increase its popularity so if you have a web site or fiero page place a link.
This build shows the world a great Fiero build up but it also shows people do care for one another we may share a passion of a late model car and a love of life. I know there have been some life long friendships created out of this but this build shows more. It shows that we may have restored some plastic but Tyler showed us how to restore faith in humanity. RIP Tyler. http://www.tylerstoy.com
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fieroX Member
Posts: 5234 From: wichita, Ks Registered: Oct 2001
The flowers have been ordered. (Donations are on going, and very much still welcome). The flowers were ordered from "Flowers by Val" in Detroit Lakes. They are very familiar with the build that took place and the entire story of Tyler's battle with cancer. They are doing an arrangement that would normally cost $300 or more, for $200. It will be a standing spray, Done in all yellow. I asked them to go heavy on yellow roses. She assures us that they are going to do a "very special arrangement."
This is an image of the 2 x 3 card that will accompany the flowers. DIYSTU came up with the wording, and myself, Hulki, and many others agreed that it was nice, simple and appropriate.
When the arrangement is completed, they are going to take a picture and email it to me, and I will post it here for everyone to see.
Please keep the donations coming in, as the rest of the money, minus the $200 for the flowers is going to go in the form of a cashiers check directly to the family. I spoke to DIYSTU last night, and we things this is a good way to do it. Putting the money into the Benefit fund, would largely go unseen by the family, and go directly to cover bills on their behalf from what I understand. Giving it directly to them, will allow them to use it in any way that they wish.
Again, the flowers have been ordered, as they have to be ready for tomorrow, but donations are still being accepted. I can not wait to tally the final total of donations in a couple of days, and DIYSTU and I will share the total with everyone!
Many heart felt thanks, goes out to everyone for the kind words, prayers, and donations.
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i'm at work wiring an alarm panel. Luckily i'm in a small configned area alone cause i just spent the last 20 minutes recomposing myself. The desire i have to just get in the car and drive up there is overwhelming, i seriously doubt the car would make it. But i will be there in mind.
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mptighe Member
Posts: 3321 From: Houston, TX Registered: Aug 2009
I haven't posted in the Tyler threads, mainly because it hit a little too close to home with me. Aside from my personal losses, I can tell you this...
Before I took over the school, I worked at MD Anderson doing massage for cancer patients. While they were going through what I can only describe as something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, my job was to go in and comfort them and do whatever was in my power to make them feel better. Most of them told me stories about how they had gone to get massages but had been turned away like lepers because the massage therapists mistakenly were taught it was a contraindication (not good) to do massage for people with cancer. Schools teach that it could cause the cancer to spread because of the influence on the circulatory system. MD Anderson has not only proven this to be an outdated belief, but they have therapists at most of their sattelites.
These people were having beams of energy burning into their tissue or having a toxic substance running through their veins. The treatments made them ill, tired, experience pain, and sometimes worse. While everyone else poked and prodded at them, I was able to treat them with dignity and tell them they were still worth human compassion. It was some of the most rewarding work I have ever done or will ever do.
What I'm trying to say here, is you did what I was doing. You made a HUGE difference to Tyler and to his family. Many people die alone and without knowing this type of compassion. You should have seen how many patients have to go through this alone, with no one there to comfort them. I felt guilty for not being a part of this, as it's my nature to serve others, especially when they are so in need. I am proud of everyone here, regardless of the bickering that is bound to happen on online forums. You showed the community and the world that we are all still humans and worth effort.
My thoughts and prayers go to the family. There is no way to make words comfort for such a thing. My only wish is that time be kind to them, and allow them to heal as much as can be expected. Thanks to everyone and thank you to Tyler for allowing us to be humbled by your presence.
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2.5 Member
Posts: 43235 From: Southern MN Registered: May 2007
Rest in peace Tyler, I thank God for taking your pain away. I'll continue to pray for you and your family.
Let us all be sad for ourselves, but be happy for Tyler because I truly believe that he knows only a bright and cheerful but calm, relaxing, peaceful and painless loving existence now. Nothing in this world could ever be hoped for better.
God bless, and hopefully someday I'll see you in your awesome yellow Fiero on that twisty road to eternity.
-Steven
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Bry73 Member
Posts: 114 From: N. St. Paul, MN Registered: Sep 2008
