In his words..."I purchased an abondoned 1993.5 Toyota Supra TT W/ Targa. The DMV said i would be able to get a title going through the town clerk and some other people... After the process was over and i went to the DMV again, they said that the only way i can get the title is through town Auction." Is there anyway to get this title? the previous owner is nowhere to be found and it would be a shame for my brother to have to part this car out. It only has the original 18,000 miles on it and it runs like brand new.
Any ideas guys?

P.S the town already said they didnt want it and said my brother can have it....the dmv says otherwise and wont allow a title any ways around this?

Google "Automotive Title services" and see if those places can help.

I don't know if they do newer then 1980s cars though.

Here is a method that works : http://www.ehow.com/how_492...e-abandoned-car.html

Or this route I have used this one before http://www.broadwaytitle.com/PDF_Forms/boats.pdf

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He needs to get a court orderd vehical title. This is going to be hard because he has the prove the car isant stolen. A bill of sale will also get you good points. But its not easy and sometimes can be more money than its worth.

thanks guys and ill look into all this.
-Frankie

if he has any friends with a shop have them sit it there for a few weeks they should be able to get a mechanics lean on it

If you can find out the name of the owner as stated on the title, (the last recored owner) and or the lein holder, you will be miles ahead. Than find a shop or towing company that will work with you. Ask them what it takes to do a "ABANDONED MOTOR VEHICAL" legal paperwork. You can find the places that can do it by looking in your newspaper "classifieds' under abandoned motor vehicals. It may state the statutes that apply right in the add. It might be to much work.

International Title Service:

http://www.its-titles.com/

Pricey but if the car is not stolen or junked out they will get you a title.
I've dealt with them twice now. Send them all the paperwork as described on the site also send your Credit Card number and about 3 weeks later you have plates and registration to the vehicle in your name! With this you can start driving immediately and can also take the registration that is now in your name to your DMV and request a new title.

Couldn't be simpler.

~Tyler

fyi: the last car i got plates, registration and title for through them cost me $365

could he swap the Vin number from a junk yard car that has a good car fax history?

there maybe a vin numbers on the frame too he may have to grind down

I'm sorry. I guess I'm just really confused.

How can ANYONE come across a MKIV TT with that mileage on it for free - and having it run? Which now knowing that it runs, were the keys just left in it too or he somehow got the keys? (because you can't have a dealer cut a key unless you prove proof of ownership). Something doesn't quite seem right. No one, I mean not even people who don't know what they are, "abandon" a MKIV. If somebody really did do that, they are currently near the top of the list as dumbest car owner in the northern hemisphere.

its an import... its stolen...

Don't be shocked when 2 out of 3 imports you see are stolen..

This car might have been stolen... and then someone else came along and stole it again...

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I've only ever seen one MK.IV Supra in my life (and the guy put a fart can on it ) - nobody in their right mind would abandon one. It's most likely stolen.

The simplest answer is usually the correct one.

quote Originally posted by faalvino:....the dmv says otherwise and wont allow a title any ways around this?

It's been decades since I dealt with the DMV in NY but it probably hasn't changed much. Your best bet is to get a title service that will get you and out of state title then you can title it in NY.

quote Originally posted by Fiero84Freak: I'm sorry. I guess I'm just really confused. How can ANYONE come across a MKIV TT with that mileage on it for free - and having it run? Which now knowing that it runs, were the keys just left in it too or he somehow got the keys? (because you can't have a dealer cut a key unless you prove proof of ownership). Something doesn't quite seem right. No one, I mean not even people who don't know what they are, "abandon" a MKIV. If somebody really did do that, they are currently near the top of the list as dumbest car owner in the northern hemisphere.

lol its completely legit we carfaxed it and everything all that happend was some old guy had it sitting in his backyard and he didnt want it. we found it and took it off his hands =)

quote Originally posted by faalvino: lol its completely legit we carfaxed it and everything all that happend was some old guy had it sitting in his backyard and he didnt want it. we found it and took it off his hands =)

its worth ~$35-40k .... Old guys give that sort of money away to strangers now?

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: its worth ~$35-40k .... Old guys give that sort of money away to strangers now?

EXACTLY! It's a TT with 18k. There are Supra sackriders out there that will give away their nuts for those cars and enthusiasts that will easily dump over 30k for one - if it is as described with that mileage - in original condition.

quote Originally posted by skuzzbomer: I've only ever seen one MK.IV Supra in my life (and the guy put a fart can on it )

LOL! There's a guy here in central AR that owns three!! (He tries to sell two of them all the time on craigslist, but asks way too much for them). And I get to see two, a white one and a red one, daily driven at least once a week and usually more.

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mhmm my brother is on the supra forums and talks to them all the time.....but the older guy thought the engine was messed up because it didnt run....we took it and found it was only the battery and its runs perfectly enigne is 100% mint and interior is ok needs a little love but its great. Hopefully we get this title so all is well =)

quote could he swap the Vin number from a junk yard car that has a good car fax history? there maybe a vin numbers on the frame too he may have to grind down

You can do this if you want to go to prison, that is a big no-no.

xxxx

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quote Originally posted by Turbogoose: you would have to be nuts to pay that much for a supra.. 3500 pound car... It would be cheaper to buy a 1990s miata, stick in a 302cu 5.0 mustang motor, you would be still 1500 pounds liter... and have 100 more HP without using a twin turbo.... and still have 30K or more in your pocket.. and it would still out handle anything on the road... you would have a better chance of picking up girls in a fiero then you would in a Supra... Plus who wants to drive a car that hulk Hogan son crashed... Edit... the car is also as heavy as a Cadillac....

In the words of my brother...

"I love your opinions and you make a good point about the weight but, my 1993.5 Twin Turbo 6spd MKIV only weighs 3100lbs. The previous generation (MKIII) is around the weight you mentioned.  Maybe you're confused? The 2JZ-GTE engine compared to a 302cu is no comparison. You're talking about an engine with stock HP and torque that is almost 100 less than that of the 2JZ. Not saying the nice little combo you mentioned is crappy, and the weight reduction into a miata sounds nice, but a 2JZ motor with minor bolt-ons (exhaust, cold-air intake, DP, etc) is capable of 400HP at .8 BAR easy. Also, i think you have your facts wrong because the 302cu (out of the SVT/SVO correct me if i'm wrong) will never produce 100 more HP than a 2JZ without a boost application. I feel like your only angle is weight and if that's the case you'll find yourself behind any MKIV you come across."

P.S he means no harm with this... just friendly argument about his car =)

quote Originally posted by avengador1: You can do this if you want to go to prison, that is a big no-no.

Not really.... it has to do with intent.

If you take a car that you know to be stolen and you swap VINs that is a felony.

If you own two cars and you are in the process of restoring one and using the other for parts you have a choice as to which VIN plate you use for the final project. I've had the DMV advise me as much. So it's all in the context.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Not really.... it has to do with intent. If you take a car that you know to be stolen and you swap VINs that is a felony. If you own two cars and you are in the process of restoring one and using the other for parts you have a choice as to which VIN plate you use for the final project. I've had the DMV advise me as much. So it's all in the context.

Does this apply in NY? if so all we need is a car we can deem for parts and swap the vins?

Ok again, who gives away $35,000?

quote Originally posted by faalvino: Does this apply in NY? if so all we need is a car we can deem for parts and swap the vins?

I have no idea if this is true in NY. And even if it is you need another 1993.5 Toyota Supra TT W/ Targa that you have clear title to and from what I understand they are fairly rare.

I meant to say earlier that it has to be two identical cars.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Ok again, who gives away $35,000?

Well like i said thw old guy didnt really know what it was worth....we explained it to him and he was like "well it dosnt run and im not going to do anything with it" so my brother and i carfax it etc, found out it was clean and towed it to our house.

Nice find, wish I could get lucky like that.
Kinda makes me want a targa on my fiero now....

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* 97 Olds Cutlass DD
* 86 Mustang SVO Rear Ended, R.I.P

* 86 Fiero GT, Soon to be Northstar

F^#^*&^ Some people have all the luck. Is it stickshift or auto?

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quote Originally posted by Turbogoose: Its possible it is stolen.... the story sounds strange,,.. I want to see a video of the car and a CLOSE UP OF THE VIN NUMBER... I suggest try the supra forum.... but if its stolen he is running the risk of someone spotting it.... . I suggest he seek free advice from a Lawyer... or a Mechanic or someone who works in the Auto field.. I also suggest everyone to let this thread die.. I am done here.

If he ran it through the DMV and it came back clean that its not stolen.
Things like this do happen. Every day? no but they do happen. Hell there is a member on here who got an older Roles Royce for $500. That is a once in a life time thing.

In NC you would need a title bond for the value established by 3 licensed dealers. If someone comes forth with the title, one of you gets the car and one of you gets the money. I tried to get this done with a '63 Mini but the dealers wouldn't help me at all. I sold the car with no titla and a blank VIN plate. Who knows what the new owner did.....

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: F^#^*&^ Some people have all the luck. Is it stickshift or auto?

The car is limited edition 6 speed.....And my brother is a active memeber on the supra forums...they have seen it and agree to it being legit and legal.

I would just sell it for the ~$35k and go to college... No reason to try to drive it.

Just file a mechanics lein on the car and as long as it is not stolen thereis no problem,I had an almost new Infinity J30 that was not paid for by the previous owner owing almost $18,000 $25per day and he left it at my house where it sat for 2 years.I did file a lein on the car for storage

It took about 3months but I got a new title sa it was cheaper for the finance company to sign the title over than pay for storage

quote Originally posted by Boogaloo: Just file a mechanics lein on the car and as long as it is not stolen thereis no problem,I had an almost new Infinity J30 that was not paid for by the previous owner owing almost $18,000 $25per day and he left it at my house where it sat for 2 years.I did file a lein on the car for storage It took about 3months but I got a new title sa it was cheaper for the finance company to sign the title over than pay for storage

Well in order to do that we will need a mechanic willing to put a lein on it right? Its not just something they do commonly correct? or is it just like you said we can "file for it"?

Probably easier to spend your resources finding the prior owner and getting them to sign it over.

Um ya that car was not "abandoned", and my ex-wife's father in-law had no right to sell it (crotchety old bastid)!! I will be contacting you via PM so we can get this straightened out, that car is worth 20,000+ easy and my ex PITA andfather in law both know it Just because I am 8 months behind with alimony does not give them a right to pursue "cowboy justice"..

This is all fine and dandy but what does it have to do with the Fiero? Note the title: General Fiero Chat - not Supra Chat.

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