I was DEAD-SET on designing my own dash/door panel's and center column not to mention all new custom iterior piece's.... NOW... I am really concidering on making this my next winter's project...
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I just wanted to pass along a picture and a big THANKS to Fred (RAREW66) for the fantastic piece of artwork. And what a pleasure to deal with. Pure polished stainless steel. I'm going to mount on my new computer cover. What do you think? Way Cool, huh?
Here's a picture of the computer cover from a little farther away.
Okay. How do we contact Fred? That would look too sweet on my sub grill.
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rynelson85 Member
Posts: 2178 From: Wichita, KS Registered: Aug 2002
Okay. How do we contact Fred? That would look too sweet on my sub grill.
Blade_69, I sent you an e-mail
------------------ Fred Bartemeyer Chairman Heartland Fieros http://www.heartlandfieros.com 86 GT 4spd 26k miles 87 GT 5spd. Blue 37k miles 88 Silver T-Top Formula 266,000 miles 87 GT 5 spd Annette's Sunshine Driver 88 GT 5 spd Annette's Daily Driver
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
will that cluster work if run by a delco N* or short* computer? Or do you do some type of coversion for dig. gauges to run off of analog sensors. I am new to this and you may have answered this!
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
All of the gauges in the Firebird cluster work off of the stock Fiero analog senders, with the exception of the gas gauge. It is looking for a digital signal from the powertrain control module, which the Fiero obviously does not have.
The solution Roy did was to replace the gas gauge with an older analog version. I hope that helps.
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PBJ Member
Posts: 4167 From: London, On., Canada Registered: Jan 2001
I'm not surprised the older gas gauge works fine. My service manual states that it's a analog gauge in one section and digital in the other. So I fgured it changed somewhere along the way.
But I have the digital odometer and the more modern gauge overlay so I still like the one I have better.
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Rickady88GT Member
Posts: 10648 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
what about the tach, can you adapt a v8 tach to a v6 is it hard to do, and wich one has a higher red line? are the speedos the same top speed or do they differ? I do realy like what I see and look forward to doing one of my own, do you have pics of the finnished car or is it not done yet?
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PBJ Member
Posts: 4167 From: London, On., Canada Registered: Jan 2001
PBJ's picture of course shows a metric speedo. Mine is from a 3800 V6 and therefore did not need to be converted. I have no idea how to convert a Firebird speedo or tach.
My speedo maxes out at 120 MPH and the tach redlines at 6,000. The actual redline for the engine is stored in the ECM so it doesn't matter what's printed on the tach.
I still have about a dozen little things I need to finish.
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Jan 11th, 2003
mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
Our 94-95 cluster with non digital odometer seems to work the fuel gauge the same as fiero.
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That's interesting. Mine had to be replaced with an older gauge to work correctly. One thing I didn't try was to remove the resistor that was on one of the traces. Perhaps that would have removed the factory bias and allowed the gauge to regester properly. Not really a big deal. I already had the replacement gauge and it only took about an hour to install it.
PBJ -- Does yours register "full" when energized? That's waht mine did. I only had 1/2 tank of gas so I know it was wrong.
Roy
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PBJ Member
Posts: 4167 From: London, On., Canada Registered: Jan 2001
No it reads 3/4 of a tank, thats what the fiero one read too and is the amount of gas I have in there.
Well, maybe the 1/2" of water that the cluster was sitting in when I found it had something to do with my in-op gas gauge. I know it works now, I ran most of it out yesterday on a round trip to Mr. Mike's.
Roy
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
is the steering wheel in the all the way up position?can u drive it in that position and see all the gauges and the road,or are you going to move it down some?
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
It must have taken a month for the "Fiero smell" to go away after I stripped out my interior. Unfortunately I went with used carpet and seat covers so I didn't really get the new car smell. I plan to get new carpet and Mr Mikes leather some day. Then I will really have the new car smell.
For those that don't want to cut and weld, here is the final dash placement that I ended up with. Compare the gap over the steering wheel with the one earlier on the page. You can see how I squeezed the dash closer to the column. Also note that the cupholder is deployed!
I am still waiting to get my replacement gas gauge so the cluster bezel is not installed. The people I bought the gauge from have been stringing me along for almost a month now. I should have just gone to the junkyard
Anyway I am starting on Phase I-A and that is the entertainment system...stay tuned
- Jonathan
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Jan 15th, 2003
BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Here's a couple of pictures of my finished door panels. What do ya think?
Roy
Roy, its amazing to think we were talking about this swap while I was down visiting JR. I am soooo gonna come down to FLA and kidnap you and your car and not release you till you put that interior into my car! WOW!!!!!!!!!!
You da man!
Steven
------------------ 88 Fiero coupe 2.5 5 speed, Custom IHI RHB6 turbo equipped, gutted and track abused 88 Coupe Project "F-88" has begun....Classified TOP SECRET 87 Fiero GT 14.9/ 89mph **4.9 PFI swap in progress** 87 Fiero Coupe 91k miles **3.4TDC swap in progress** 87 Mazda RX-7 SBC v8 5.0L/700R4 ---FOR SALE 88 Mazda RX-7 'vert SBC v8 383/T-5 84 Fiero 2M4 T-top, Turbocharged and tons of extras! SOLD 87 Conquest TSi 406 SBC V8! SOLD **I am Looking for 88 coupe w/ auto trans near Va...PM me** Always have engines, fiero parts and accessories for sale. Custom engine swaps and chassis modifications are available.
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
the need for speed -- It's a tilt column and in the picture it's in the full "up" position. When it's in the driving position, I have an unobstructed view of every gauge.
Smoooooth -- Like you've never had an original idea . We're bound to see a LOT of Smooooth-isms on other peoples' cars.
seadog -- Well, come one over!
BV Motorsports -- Maybe we can make a deal... I mount the dash in your car and a 3800SC motor in mine and you can wire both!
To everyone, Thanks. Roy
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OH10fiero Member
Posts: 1541 From: struther OH Registered: Jun 2002
Roy, jscott1, beautiful work you two, also a big thank you for making my job on this project a lot easier . I have not gotten as far as I would like to on my Fierbird dash conversion but I have been working on the Targa for a local show that occures here in Ohio, I spent 11 hours alone removing the seats out of the car, they were rusted in that badly, lol. But rest assured I will be in close contact with both of you when I get stuck somewhere on the dash project.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
BV Motorsports -- Maybe we can make a deal... I mount the dash in your car and a 3800SC motor in mine and you can wire both!
To everyone, Thanks. Roy
Hmmmm what about the door panels and center console? But it if thats all you want (38sc wired) consider this a cyber handshake!
Really, Roy, you made it look better than I ever dreamed of. Thats awsome!
Steven
------------------ 88 Fiero coupe 2.5 5 speed, Custom IHI RHB6 turbo equipped, gutted and track abused 88 Coupe Project "F-88" has begun....Classified TOP SECRET 87 Fiero GT 14.9/ 89mph **4.9 PFI swap in progress** 87 Fiero Coupe 91k miles **3.4TDC swap in progress** 87 Mazda RX-7 SBC v8 5.0L/700R4 ---FOR SALE 88 Mazda RX-7 'vert SBC v8 383/T-5 84 Fiero 2M4 T-top, Turbocharged and tons of extras! SOLD 87 Conquest TSi 406 SBC V8! SOLD **I am Looking for 88 coupe w/ auto trans near Va...PM me** Always have engines, fiero parts and accessories for sale. Custom engine swaps and chassis modifications are available.
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Blade_69 Member
Posts: 394 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Jul 2002
Here's a couple of pictures of my finished door panels. What do ya think?
Roy
*prints out pick, picks up, looks at it, slowly carries it to the bathroom, shuts and locks door...*
haha, you dash and door panels look really awsome, i wish i had half your talent!
------------------ --Adam-- 1987 Blue GT 5-speed IM AOL: GTFiero Fiero mods almost done...i know that because im running out of possesions to sell for money
This is sorta the same thing I mentioned way back in the first couple of pages of this thread. Except my idea was to cover the entire back section and make it look like a C5 Corvette Roadster. Nice work!
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Jan 16th, 2003
JanusSolSumnus Member
Posts: 98 From: Clermont, FL, USA Registered: Nov 2002
I had a question, I think it was already mentioned but I'm not sure so I shall ask again. I plan to use a 2000 Grand Prix GTP interior when I start my Fiero project. However I am not sure it(along with doors and console) will fit. The dash for the Grand Prix GTP is 54 1/2".
Here is a qoute from a guy off ClibGP's forums: "I stretched my tape measure over the dash between the A pillars and saw 54.5" - note that this was with the tape measure resting on the highest portion of the dash."
Is this accurate to what I need for the Fiero?
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