quote Originally posted by Australian: Quite a good idea wonder how much an existing choptop would look.

Like this?
before

After

That top one really looks pretty good!

quote Originally posted by sactodreamer: I did two, one gradual and one not so much.

I'm 6'1... and I fit terribly in a chop. Mostly it is because dual knee surgeries have made it VERY awkward to bend in and out of cars... My head hits on a chop, especially in a seat upright position, which I prefer.

I've sat in several... Great Blue, Taz's, JScotts, and F355's... all of them... it is a ballet of ugliness me getting in and out.

But to the OP, I love that photochop. The GT looks great. Not so sure on the notchy... but if I was modding a GT... and that was easily doable, available. For sure.

I love how it straightens the lines into a tigher wedge. I like angles more than curves. (except in the MR2)... give me 80's Esprit over the Elise... give me Enzo or 328 over the 355. Give me Vector over Viper. Now I am just daydreaming...

Raising the belt line of the car helps, but in my opinion the windshield is too upright on the stock Fiero and it's the laid back windshield that gives the chop top it's distinctive look.

This is a quick photoshop I did in 2005, stock height (no chop) , upped beltline and also dropped the roof sides..it looks the dropped roof sides could add to a sort of stronger look of the top...and a more maffia like window

Its all about proportions and I believe there are many ways to change the look of the Fiero with or without cutting the structure...

quote Originally posted by Fie Ro: This is a quick photoshop I did in 2005, stock height (no chop) , upped beltline and also dropped the roof sides..it looks the dropped roof sides could add to a sort of stronger look of the top...and a more maffia like window Its all about proportions and I believe there are many ways to change the look of the Fiero with or without cutting the structure...

Hmmm, with that front end, and the dropped top sides it does look pretty serious.

Brad

Looks like something Alfa Romeo would build (especially in the mid 90's, referring to above post).

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fyrebird68:

VERY cool.... I passed on a chop top becasue I'm 6' 2". This could work.

Im 6' 4" And i have a 4" chop on my fiero you just mite have to change the height of the seat.

Another notchie

I'm thinking of doing this on my choptop. My car is different than other chops and I think it would look good on my car. Here is a pic of my car.



Maybe someone can photoshop it. I know it's not the best pic to photoshop but it's the best I have right now as I have the doors apart after fitting my glass windows

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quote Originally posted by av8fiero: I'm thinking of doing this on my choptop. My car is different than other chops and I think it would look good on my car. Here is a pic of my car. Maybe someone can photoshop it. I know it's not the best pic to photoshop but it's the best I have right now as I have the doors apart after fitting my glass windows

OK I tried to lighten it up a little so you can see it better?

Hmmm. I think I like that. Thanks for doing that. I'm going to do this to my car

About 4 or 5 years ago I experimented with lowering the glass profile by moving the body up.
I was working on the hood and front fenders mainly because I did not like the wipers showing.
Because of the way I went about it, the hood ended up being to heavy to be practical but it looked very cool.
What I did was add the rear 2/3's of the skin from a hood to the existing hood.
It was tipped up about 2" in the rear and slid back as far as I could and still get the wipers to clear.
It was hollow and I was venting the rad. through the space.
Someday I may revisit the idea using a little bit more creative energy because it looked very sharp.
I try to will post the one picture I have if I can figure out how.
Steve

Yeah I've also thought about doing that. Your photo shop looks very good. Sence your pretty good at it why don't you photo shop it with a wide body like Arches? I think it would be great!

Vinny

If I did this correctly the picture of the raised hood and fender should be at:




I wish I had taken more shots.

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y'know, i'll bet it would look good, if you brought it p all the way so it only had, like, 2" slits for windows. it'd be saweet!

no, really, i'm jk, but could someone post that for a laugh? (i have no photoshop skills whatsoever.)

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Thanks, Danyel, for the graphic.

Here are some pics of my car as it sits. The tape line across the door is where I would raise the beltline to. I'm still thinking about whether I'll go through with this mod. Let me know what you think













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[This message has been edited by av8fiero (edited 07-30-2010).]

Mera's are sort of a reverse chop top. On the inside an additional piece was added to the top of the door panel to hide the higher exterior skin. The back window also appears much smaller on the Mera. This mod would work for us tall guys on a Fiero.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Raising the belt line of the car helps, but in my opinion the windshield is too upright on the stock Fiero and it's the laid back windshield that gives the chop top it's distinctive look.

Actually I think a chop might look better without laying the windshield back, but rather with a smaller windshield at the stock angle. But 3 inches is a lot to lose too. It would be nice if one could move the bottom of the windshield forward a couple inches, to get it raked back, and maybe do a 1 inch chop. The 3 inch shop seems a bit too extreme to me, since the bottom of the Fiero body is still pretty tall. It kind of messes up the proportions too much for me.

But I think a widebody, with a 1 inch chop, and raked windshield, would look awesome.

Looks good. I sold two of my Fieros so now I'm down to only one which is my replica so I will not be doing this mod. I would really like to see one done tho.

This thread prompted me to grab some masking tape and try to figure out how to achieve something close to that effect without changing the mirror position. This is the angle I've come up with, something very similar to what Archie did to Curley's car.



It could be done without any major structural changes to the door steel, just some fiberglass work and, again, changing the quarter window slightly. I like the droptop look but also have a cabin height issue with them. I'm only 5"7' but only have a couple inches over my head because the Caddy Catera seats sit up higher than the stock Fiero ones and I like having power seats so I'm not likely to change them.

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What you guys are doing is just like a Ferrari rebody. Check the upper door skin door angle in my pic. The rear of the door skin is a good 2 to 2 1/2 inches taller than a stock door skin, the front is almost flush with the hood line.

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well I've decided to go with the reverse choptop raised beltline on my car [tape line in previously posted pics] I already have the top metal door structure pieces I need to add to my doors and will be starting on this soon

Cool, I can't wait to see your progress.

ok started cutting on the passenger door, here are some pics

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This belt line raising nonsense could just about be the solution to the problem I've seen repeatedly with notchbacks that have been turned into convertibles - there's always that gap where the sail went once the roof is missing...

It looks kinda cool... will be keeping an eye on this.

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I just welded in the new raised top outer dew wipe supports / top door rails. it looks pretty good. I'll post pics soon

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I think ill be taking a stop by with the gt chris yup its done! I want to see your progress on the doors!

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quote Originally posted by sactodreamer:

i guess im the only one, but i think this looks AWESOME. Kinda like a cop car from a futuristic movie...like something a Judge Dredd like person with less testosterone and more suave would drive lol. i like it a lot. if the rear wheel was an inch or two bigger even, it would give it ever more aggression and badass-ery

quote Originally posted by sactodreamer: Like this? before After

I agree with faaaaQ (Q not G) I think this car screams get the f**k out of my way. Who's car is this, and where do they live so I can go steal it?

quote Originally posted by sactodreamer:

For me the look just don't work well with a notchie. It makes the car look like the roof/passenger compartmant were an after thought that was just stuck on top of a flat body. Kind looks like you could just unbolt it to make it a comvertiable. I think it blends ber stock or bette still with chop top.

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I too did not like the look of the sail panel. Maybe its a good thing I am not able to PS right now I act Shelly went out and played around with the real thing Good thing the paint is crap! What if they were fiber glass Bolton’s make the door piece and put it with a wide body kit? Or make some Bolton’s for the rear that are not too wide but enough to give it a line to match?



Next time I will fill up the tire before taking the picture

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quote Originally posted by 85SEnochie: I too did not like the look of the sail panel. Maybe its a good thing I am not able to PS right now I act Shelly went out and played around with the real thing Good thing the paint is crap! What if they were fiber glass Bolton’s make the door piece and put it with a wide body kit? Or make some Bolton’s for the rear that are not too wide but enough to give it a line to match?

The problem with a bolt on door piece is what do you do with the outer dew wipe. You could leave it where it is and you can make it work this way but then you would have to leave a gap between the door panel top edge and the door glass due to the way the window moves as it travels up and down in it's tracks. As the window rolls down the top kicks out. That is why I choose to move my upper dew wipe up with the door panel. I changed the pivot point of the glass so I have no gap between the panel and glass and my dew wipe will ride the glass and look like a factory installation

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quote Originally posted by av8fiero: The problem with a bolt on door piece is what do you do with the outer dew wipe. You could leave it where it is and you can make it work this way but then you would have to leave a gap between the door panel top edge and the door glass due to the way the window moves as it travels up and down in it's tracks. As the window rolls down the top kicks out. That is why I choose to move my upper dew wipe up with the door panel. I changed the pivot point of the glass so I have no gap between the panel and glass and my dew wipe will ride the glass and look like a factory installation

Good point I saw that when I was putting it on there but did not think much about it until you said dew wipe and now I wonder how much water it would hold? You could make a channel for it, like you said to make it work. It looks like you raised the mirror mounts too with the way you are doing it

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[This message has been edited by 85SEnochie (edited 08-27-2010).]

Here are some more pics. I was playing with the outer door skins today. Sorry for the blurryness, I'm fairly digitally illterate

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quote Originally posted by sactodreamer: Like this? before After

Is this your car? I love this car. I need to talk to you if it is.

Same chop top as above, latest update with reverse add on...

This really isant anything all to new. They do this alot with nerer sports cars.. Everyone wants that low looking roof with the tiny window's to make the car look more sporty with without loosing head room in the car... for instance. They did it in my eclipse... it looks nice but when it comes to rolling with the window's down and trying to roll with one arm chillin out the window... forget about it....Its uncomfertable and the top of the door is around my neck area. Another prime example is the chrysler crossfire it lookes really small and dinky but inside it is somewhat roomy with huge doors.

quote Originally posted by Car-Lo: Same chop top as above, latest update with reverse add on...

Not my car. Looking good though. Both of these.