I took the Ogre's advice and installed a bridge rectifier on both front markers. Now the signals flash when the parking lights are off and on. Somehow I never noticed before that the front marker / signals flash together with the front signals when the parking lights are *off* and they flash alternately to the front signals when the parking lights are *on*.....
Here's a short, crappy quality, video from my Blackberry:
Easy to see how bright the marker / signals are with the LEDs now. That loud "THUNK" you hear at the beginning and end of the video is my keyless entry system automatically locking and unlocking the doors with the ignition key...
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Dave E Bouy Member
Posts: 1465 From: Kettle Point Ontario Canada Registered: Sep 2004
Pretty cool video randye ... you didn't mention at the beginning how much spacing there was left once the strip was installed.. that's why we kind of went to far with our version of rerouting the wires through the hole.. ... anyway if I drill a hole in the hood and use duct tape to hold the whole thing together do you think I can run 1 gauge wires to the strip ??? would look pretty beefy sort of Rat Rod !!! J/K
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This might be a dumb question, but I am not that familiar with circuts and wiring. I read the write-up in the Cave about adding the bridge rectifier. I was wondering if the bridge rectifier can be installed in the TLG LED wiring instead of the wiring that goes to the light socket. I would rather modify the bulb side of the wiring that can be removed from the car instead of the socket side. Would it work the same this way? Thank you.
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doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
i'm having a hell of a time getting the markers apart, the heat gun is melting everything but the part i need apart.
The end pieces on the back are the hardest part to get started. Once you can get that side lifted you should be able to lift the whole piece up. Maybe I'll post another vide of JUST taking apart a marker light.
I'm sure it would, the socket and plug adapter are basically just wires, so before or after it should make no difference
The decision has been made to sell the end product with the silicon bridge rectifier already installed in the wiring. This will make the product better and provide for more simple user-friendly installation.
Also, the price will not increase at all.
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zmcdonal Member
Posts: 1681 From: NW, Indiana Registered: Oct 2005
Originally posted by Oslo: The decision has been made to sell the end product with the silicon bridge rectifier already installed in the wiring. This will make the product better and provide for more simple user-friendly installation.
Also, the price will not increase at all.
SWEET!! Sounds like a great idea to me. I am really looking forward to this upgrade!!
I took the Ogre's advice and installed a bridge rectifier on both front markers. Now the signals flash when the parking lights are off and on. Somehow I never noticed before that the front marker / signals flash together with the front signals when the parking lights are *off* and they flash alternately to the front signals when the parking lights are *on*.....
Cool. Thank for the video... I'll put it in the cave.
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This is a wicked cool mod and I dare say will make the car safer to drive. I am definitely gonna do this once they are back in stock. I am going to florida this week so I cannot do anything until I return but this is a must have and the price seems fair to me..... Just a question, in the video the front turn signals are in the corner markers and the front running lights, does the front kit include both lights led strips or just both markers? Nice job guys on a nice product.... peace
Cool. Thank for the video... I'll put it in the cave.
Thank You. This might be the first time in my life that I feel honored to be in a "cave" Also, another thanks to you for "prodding" us to add the rectifiers. I personally think these are the turn signals and markers the Fiero *should* have had.
Originally posted by Camel: AWESOME! Will you have any of your other product for sale there? I am browsing the site now... mostly LED mods...
The products are from TLG-Auto, not me. I'm just the "inventor" of this LED marker / turn signals mod. "Oslo" (TLG-Auto) has taken over the production and sales of them and has also made improvements to them, (the 194 male plugs), to make them easier to install. I have no vested interest in TLG-Auto and I get no % of any sales of the markers. I just wanted these to be available to the Fiero community and figured that TLG-Auto was best positioned to make that happen. That being said, I will have flyers and sales material from TLG-Auto that will be handled on behalf of TLG by JimmyS / Fierofiberglass.com at the Daytona show. There will also be a FREE drawing for a complete LED upgrade set for Fiero from TLG-Auto that will be handled by JimmyS (The upgrade set being given away does NOT include the LED side markers unfortunately. "Oslo" is busy geting them produced and shipped and I imagine there was no time to include them for Daytona) Please stop by and introduce yourself at the Fierofiberglass.com display and enter your name in the FREE drawing. My car will be on display there along with others.
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The response to this product hitting the market was overwhelming and we are finishing up the rest of the ordered marker lights so I apologize to everyone who is waiting on them. It is taking more time than expected to get these all out to you due to the high volume! But I assure you some of the 14 pairs ordered have already shipped and more will ship tomorrow and so on.
Do you have a package deal for all 4 marker lights upgrade? ... also can you tell me if we have to upgrade the flasher unit to an electronic one due to lower resistance which will affect the speed of the flashes? Thanks
I am hoping on getting mine tomorrow (Wednesday 03-31-10) it's what the tracking number say anyway. So hopefully I can make my mods soon after that. Thanks again for posting this great mods. And thanks to Randye and Oslo of course for a job well done.
The response to this product hitting the market was overwhelming and we are finishing up the rest of the ordered marker lights so I apologize to everyone who is waiting on them. It is taking more time than expected to get these all out to you due to the high volume! But I assure you some of the 14 pairs ordered have already shipped and more will ship tomorrow and so on.
Thanks!
Ya, I got my "in stock notice" and wasn't quick enough! LOL I'll be keeping a check on them!
-Brent
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zigaroo Member
Posts: 361 From: Frederica, Delaware Registered: Aug 2009
Boo, I never got the notice in my email. But I have been checking the site a few times a day and still never saw they were in stock. Oh well, I'll wait.
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Originally posted by Oslo: The decision has been made to sell the end product with the silicon bridge rectifier already installed in the wiring. This will make the product better and provide for more simple user-friendly installation.
Also, the price will not increase at all.
Original price when I first looked $23.00, price when I looked at the website to order today $30.00. Did I misread something? Are you including shipping in the new price. -Jason
Back in stock... however the price has made a noticeable jump... anyhow, ordered mine any ways!
Brent
Sorry guys, the price did increase a little bit, but the first dozen orders that were placed were at the original price of $24, and after they sold out the decision was made internally to bring the price up to $30 per pair. This is because we found out exactly how time consuming this product is to make. Each set of four takes about 1 hour to assemble, and at $24 per pair plus the cost of materials it's not even worth producing. Sorry for not advertising the slight price increase.
Original price when I first looked $23.00, price when I looked at the website to order today $30.00. Did I misread something? Are you including shipping in the new price. -Jason
Shipping is not included, and the comment about the price not going up was referring to the difference between the front and rear pairs. There is extra time and money put into doing the front pairs, with the included rectifier, and the price is still the same between the front and rear sets to make them more affordable.
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Tom Slick Member
Posts: 4342 From: Alvarado, TX Registered: May 2003
yes please do...i'm to the point of paying/trading someone for a set of disassembled marker lights.
thanks...
Sorry to hear that you're having such a tuff time getting your markers apart. I made my conversion using the reproduction GT markers from Fiero Store and they came apart quite easily. You might try using a Xacto knife and making repeated light cuts along the glue joint until you can pry the backing plate out without breaking them. "whodeanie" has also done this modifiction with, (I believe), original OEM GT markers and he didn't say he had any major problems that I know of.
The ribbed molding style markers on the Notchies are going to be harder to do, as they are glued together differently as Oslo discovered, but as evidenced by his video, it can be done with a little effort.
Maybe you could contact Oslo and see what he might charge you if you sent your markers to him and had him install the LEDs and return them to you ? Just a thought....
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sabooo Member
Posts: 859 From: Lehigh Valley, PA Registered: Aug 2006
If you are having a real nightmare getting them apart, most hobby shops sell a Contact Adhesive (CA) Debonder. It works chemically to soften the glue and ease separation of the pieces. This may or may not help in this case, but I've used it with good results in other applications.
I have a set ordered, and I have some CA debonder at home, so I'll let you know how it fares when I'm separating mine. I need to be extremely delicate with mine since they are paint matched to the body.
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Fierofreak00 Member
Posts: 4221 From: Martville, NY USA Registered: Jun 2001
Shipping is not included, and the comment about the price not going up was referring to the difference between the front and rear pairs. There is extra time and money put into doing the front pairs, with the included rectifier, and the price is still the same between the front and rear sets to make them more affordable.
PM Sent. -Jason
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zigaroo Member
Posts: 361 From: Frederica, Delaware Registered: Aug 2009
I ordered a pair for my Formula the other day, and expecting them any day now. I'll also let you guys know what I run into in taking apart the markers.
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kooljess Member
Posts: 1135 From: FIEROS WEST USA Registered: Jul 2004
Well, I finally received my markers with the rectifiers installed for the front pair and the rear markers.
I too bought the side lenses from Fiero Store in order for me not to break my original 88 GT lenses. I used xacto knife to break apart mine. You just have to have a little patience. I spent approximately 10-15 minutes for each lense. After that everything is plug and play. I have not glued back the lense yet but I installed them to see how it looks. Pictures or the videos just doesn't do justice. You really have to see this in real time to truly appreciate it. Thanks again Randye and Chris for a coming up with the idea and putting the product together for all of us Fiero owners to do this to our pride and joy. I know my club members will be doing this mods too.
Well, I finally received my markers with the rectifiers installed for the front pair and the rear markers.
I too bought the side lenses from Fiero Store in order for me not to break my original 88 GT lenses. I used xacto knife to break apart mine. You just have to have a little patience. I spent approximately 10-15 minutes for each lense. After that everything is plug and play. I have not glued back the lense yet but I installed them to see how it looks. Pictures or the videos just doesn't do justice. You really have to see this in real time to truly appreciate it. Thanks again Randye and Chris for a coming up with the idea and putting the product together for all of us Fiero owners to do this to our pride and joy. I know my club members will be doing this mods too.
Thanks again, Kooljess
PHOTOS!! WE NEED PHOTOS!!
Anyone else complete their side marker mods yet? Let's see 'em!
Glad you like the little upgrade Kooljess. Pretty simple to do for such nice results huh? I may have a coupe more nifty little ideas coming up soon
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Tom Slick Member
Posts: 4342 From: Alvarado, TX Registered: May 2003
Originally posted by randye: I made my conversion using the reproduction GT markers from Fiero Store and they came apart quite easily.
i order the reproduction markers from the Fiero Store, hoping they come apart easier than the factory ones. this way i'll have an extra set incase i ruin one.
thanks...
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kooljess Member
Posts: 1135 From: FIEROS WEST USA Registered: Jul 2004