i noticed just now when the lights are up, the tilt of the lids make it look sad. has anyone done a custom hood, probably with wings like an old corvette, that reversed the tilt of the headlight doors so they went from "sad" to "angry"?

No, but that gives me an idea - have them tilt up from the center of the hood, instead of from the back.

You'd have to have 2 lights, smaller one in the inside.

I'm sure you can custom mount the lights, for a stock but mean look, just have them (headlamps) raise up more on the outer edge and less on the inner edge. Instead of flipping open, they would raise up. get it? I don't know. Potentially expensive mod for something so little. Good idea though.

quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: I'm sure you can custom mount the lights, for a stock but mean look, just have them (headlamps) raise up more on the outer edge and less on the inner edge. Instead of flipping open, they would raise up. get it? I don't know. Potentially expensive mod for something so little. Good idea though.

i like cheevers idea better. thats something id actually like to have on my car. my idea is just something i wanted t osee

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quote Originally posted by faaaaq: i like cheevers idea better. thats something id actually like to have on my car. my idea is just something i wanted t osee

I'm not sure what he means by that. Sorry. I'm sure what ever you do, it'll look good. Throw mud at a Fiero and it'll still look good.

quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: I'm not sure what he means by that. Sorry. I'm sure what ever you do, it'll look good. Throw mud at a Fiero and it'll still look good.

you know how a split hood opens from the middle? i THINK thats what he means. like the headlight doors would hinge on the outer edge of the car and lift open from the center

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: you know how a split hood opens from the middle? i THINK thats what he means. like the headlight doors would hinge on the outer edge of the car and lift open from the center

Wouldn't that make it look sad-er? Since the edge of the headlight door would be leaning outward, expressing low-self confidence and fragility whereas the edge leaning inwards would look for confident and pissed off.

quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: Wouldn't that make it look sad-er? Since the edge of the headlight door would be leaning outward, expressing low-self confidence and fragility whereas the edge leaning inwards would look for confident and pissed off.

(brace yourselves, sov3rn drove me to it for the first time in weeks) LOL. yes it would, but i think it would be unique enough to still be awesome

I don't want to ever see the head lights. I like the doors closed. Do we ever look at each others cars during the day with the lights open?
I wouldn't think you would ever see light mods driving in the dark

quote Originally posted by Australian: I don't want to ever see the head lights. I like the doors closed. Do we ever look at each others cars during the day with the lights open? I wouldn't think you would ever see light mods driving in the dark

There are times that aren't pitch black that require lights on. And im pretty sure people would notice if the doors opened from the center. Nobody sees the engine bay unless you show them...so how is that different?

I did a photoshop where I switched the doors side to side but I cant find it.
Tonight I will do another. The thing is its going to be pretty hard to pull off. Its the angle of the door hinges and the shape of the doors.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: I did a photoshop where I switched the doors side to side but I cant find it. Tonight I will do another. The thing is its going to be pretty hard to pull off. Its the angle of the door hinges and the shape of the doors.

I don't think its overly dependent on the angle of the headlight door hinges. When I did my slim pop ups, I noticed that it was the shape of the headlight buckets that made them look like that. When I cut my buckets down, I cut them so that the headlight door would sit horizontal and not on an angle. It worked.



Stock on the left, cut buckets on the right

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the only answer I see to this is to put a 2nd hinged area on the door itself, at the very front, tapered so it is narrow near the inside & wider on the outside, and hangs downwards when the lights open. tho this will minorly shade some of the lamp - but it will look like a scowl.
this will give it the \ / instead of the / \ look

quote Originally posted by faaaaq: i noticed just now when the lights are up, the tilt of the lids make it look sad. has anyone done a custom hood, probably with wings like an old corvette, that reversed the tilt of the headlight doors so they went from "sad" to "angry"?

Here's an angry look

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quote Originally posted by jscott1: Here's an angry look

hahahaha I've never seen my car so pissed off before.

Looks like its about to transform and whoop some a**.

I would use a lower degree. That's a little too fierce, looks a little funny IMO.

google "BMW devil eyes"

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quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: I would use a lower degree. That's a little too fierce, looks a little funny IMO.

That was done at 30 degrees for comical effect.

I like that a lot, Jake.

quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: I like that a lot, Jake.

I'm not sure...looks kind of feminine

quote Originally posted by bmwguru: google "BMW devil eyes" Dave

I do like those. I do believe they are illegal in NY, though [the red lights resembles and emergency vehicle].

quote Originally posted by jscott1: Here's an angry look

On second thought... nevermind. Not as cool as I thought it would be!
Thanks for showing it to us however.

quote Originally posted by doublec4:

Looks like it's saying, "Huh?"

quote Originally posted by SOV3RN: I like that a lot, Jake.

I looked into it a couple of years ago. The work it would take to make them look right wasnt worth it.
It could be done but it would take reworking the buckets and the hood.

Now what I have thought of doing is having the head lights lay flat with the hood when off and then rotate up when you turn them on.

Something like this

Only angry lol

Flushmount it it makes it look pretty pissed off..... well some cars it does.. it makes mine look like lightning mcqueen

I like the look of them only 1/2 to 3/4 way up. Like Doublec4 did. I never remember to turn on the lights when Im washing the car, so the lights and inside mechanisms are usually dirty. Last time I washed I remembered to open and clean them. I was playing around with turning them on, and then off quickly stopping them at 1/2 open. Looks good, but lights dont work properly that way.

I think a lot of the sad look stems from GM designers making the forward edge of the headlight cover parallel to the edge seam of the hood. If they had made the forward headlight cover straight across (perpendicular to the centerline of the car) instead, it would not have the sad look when opened. I'm sure that the leading edge seam of the headlight cover could be modified if desired. We should just be glad that our cars are not the Buick Reatta, they look much worse than ours when open.

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Or you could do something like this.


Austin

Vendetta,
#1 Very nice car.
#2 A question for you. Are those the Dual 90mm Hella headlight modules, or something else? Details would be appreciated.

Thanks, and again, a very nice car, looks GREAT.

~ Bob

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quote Originally posted by FieroBobo: Vendetta, #1 Very nice car. #2 A question for you. Are those the Dual 90mm Hella headlight modules, or something else? Details would be appreciated. Thanks, and again, a very nice car, looks GREAT. ~ Bob

Thanks for the compliments. They are RX7 flush mounts that i retrofit to fit the fiero pop ups. They were originally done by a member here name FieroKing. And i just went off of his and did a few things a little differently. I bought the lights off of ebay. I'm not sure if they are still available or not.

Thanks again,

Austin

havent figured out how to do it yet but this is the eventual plan for mine. it will need different size lenses for the inner and outer and of course a from scratch housing and lift assembly but ...

quote Originally posted by wolf63: havent figured out how to do it yet but this is the eventual plan for mine. it will need different size lenses for the inner and outer and of course a from scratch housing and lift assembly but ...

FINALLY someone posted a visual of cheevers idea...

i think if you attach the entire mechanism to the hood and have two crescent shaped pieces (big one for the outter part, smaller for the inner part so it lifts the outside part more) used to raise and lower the door and lights somehow (maybe raised using gears?) it could work. get what i mean?

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Hmm... butterfly headlight doors... interesting idea.

Some of the images and comments in here are hilarious.

BTW, do my headlights look sad?

Your car looks seriously depressed heh...

Uhh... OK... LOL