Hey everyone im new to this forum and i want to mount a sub in the center console! im just not sure how to go about it, so any information would be great! i had no luck with the search, so any help please!!
Nice to have you along. The easiest route is to buy a kit. I dont have their subwoofer kits, but the owner is a member and contributor to the PFF community. Take a look at:
yes there are many kits for it. my only concern would be the sound quality / getting it stolen...it's a good temp fix though. Everyone I have seen installed ( pictures ) looks fantastic. Welcome to the forum!. Also many people ( including myself in the future ) put them behind the seat(s).
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Australian Member
Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
What is wrong with stock location it is actually the best place for it subs should go up front cars have it backwards due to room so why do it if you don't have too.
Thnigs like mechanical noise are a problem with a center mount sub you can hear the coils working on a sub when driving at moderate levels of bass, and you also get the one ear louder effect because the bass is being directed past one ear which is also not good for your hearing even at low and consistent volume levels for long periods. No loud sounds are but thats another topic. Bass is omni directional so its location unless totaly occluded it is relative to space and prefrence. The sub enclosure sold by oslo is a good product, but it still suffers from the same thing the under dash enclosures suffer from which is limited space unless you get crazy and build a custom one. I prefer the under the dash set up as it is less obvious and with the right amp and speaker it can hit hard. I have a comp vr8 in .29 cuf enclosure with an mtx 801d driving it. If it were to punch you in the face you would have to fight off the strong urge to thank it.
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Originally posted by Macs86GT: Bass is omni directional so its location unless totaly occluded it is relative to space and prefrence.
I'm sorry, but this is just a common myth. In a good quality system, position of subwoofers does matter. The only way it wouldn't matter at all, is if audio waves were omni-present, which is physically impossible.
It however, doesn't matter for most people, as most people just want really loud bass, and don't much care about anything else. Under the dash in the Fiero, really is the best place for a subwoofer, though. Beyond that it's just getting the right enclosure, and amp, so the sub operates at peak efficiency.
Besides, how many concerts have you been to where they put the speakers in the back?
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Hockaday Member
Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
for myself personally...I like my subs in the back for the physical feel of the sound waves rumbling your gut. I don't imagine puting a dual 12 inch subs under thr front bonnet would give you that...but im no sound guy.
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Tony Kania Member
Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
Here is what you can do with the TLG 8" sub box...
I am running an 8" Pioneer, and while it is not a set of 15's pounding down the road, it is quite nice to add bass to the Fiero. The box is sealed on the inside to keep air from escaping, and the build quality is excellent.
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taps Member
Posts: 111 From: Kitchener, Ontario Registered: Aug 2010
I'm sorry, but this is just a common myth. In a good quality system, position of subwoofers does matter. The only way it wouldn't matter at all, is if audio waves were omni-present, which is physically impossible.
Thank - you! This myth has been circulating since at least the 80s when I would read it in audio magazines.
The under the dash stock sub is a good start because that space is unused anyway. With a little ingenuity you can squeeze an 8" sub under the dash and they sound great.
Having said that you can still put the center console sub in and get even more bass.
Here's mine... (I was trying to find a picture, and the only one I could find was a screen shot from the movie)
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I'm sorry, but this is just a common myth. In a good quality system, position of subwoofers does matter. The only way it wouldn't matter at all, is if audio waves were omni-present, which is physically impossible.
It however, doesn't matter for most people, as most people just want really loud bass, and don't much care about anything else. Under the dash in the Fiero, really is the best place for a subwoofer, though. Beyond that it's just getting the right enclosure, and amp, so the sub operates at peak efficiency.
Besides, how many concerts have you been to where they put the speakers in the back?
While true your now well into the realm of psychoacoustics which is a subjective science at best. Bass waves are slow cycle sounds which is what cuases them to fill a space easier then the upper range frequencies which is why i mentioned occlusion of the waves ability to propagate through a given space. The only time such precision realy matters is in a designed space such as a studio and control room or a listening space, or a research facility. There are ways to attain the most optimal presence and sound stage in a normal room but you need to be able to alter material, placement of furniture and take into consideration composition of material found in the room is it tile, carpet shag or berber is it hardwood is are the walss covered in gypsum are there curtains; at this point your treading into designed space teritory. In a car you realy do not have much control over design or material within reason. I aggree thet they are not truely omni directional as many would believe. They do not require as precise positioning as do mid and hi range speakers in a real world scenario.
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Originally posted by Macs86GT: I aggree thet they are not truely omni directional as many would believe. They do not require as precise positioning as do mid and hi range speakers in a real world scenario.
The mids and tweeters don't really need that precise of positioning either. As long as you put the left channel on the left side, and the right channel on the right side, it really doesn't matter much how precise or accurate the positioning is, unless you're designing the space. A single sub can usually be positioned pretty much anywhere inside the cabin, because it's running both left and right frequencies below whatever cutoff, into a mono output. If you are installing 2 subs though, and split the left and right channels between them, then behind the seats is probably the best place to put them, in the Fiero.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I aggree thet they are not truely omni directional as many would believe. They do not require as precise positioning as do mid and hi range speakers in a real world scenario.
I think that's the point. When you put a sub behind the seat the bass sounds like it's coming from behind the seat. If the bass was truly omnidirectional you could close your eyes and truly not be able to tell where it's coming from.
Having said that, although bass coming from behind you is totally in contradiction from the real world musical experience that is what I've gotten used to in a car and front bass sounds "unnatural" to me.
I can't help any further with the sub info. Just wanted to say welcome as well. ....I'm only an hour or so up the road from you. (London). Hopefully we'll see you at some cruises.
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taps Member
Posts: 111 From: Kitchener, Ontario Registered: Aug 2010
actually...sorry for being new...lol but im not sure how to put up pictures!
We were all new at one point. ....There's a blue box at the bottom of the screen that says "pennock's image poster" Just click on that and follow the instructions.
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Aug 19th, 2010
taps Member
Posts: 111 From: Kitchener, Ontario Registered: Aug 2010
Here's what i did. Made my own console out of wood in the exact dimensions of the original one. I know a thing or 2 about sound. Done hundreds of installs. And yeah, she bounces.
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Tony Kania Member
Posts: 20794 From: The Inland Northwest Registered: Dec 2008
Absolutely no interferance with the Fiero computer. I am pretty much OCD, so I would notice anything instantly. As a matter of fact, my 3.1 just got 34 mpg to and from Fiero Fest. Even with a short blast to 120. She must be running good.
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taps Member
Posts: 111 From: Kitchener, Ontario Registered: Aug 2010
do you guys have the map pocket glove box conversion?
My cars have the stock GT map pocket on the dash right now. I'll be building up a custom dash and door panels for my 87 (and will put a glove box in). And for the 85, I'll probably be putting a G6 dash in it, when I get around to doing that build.
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The box is sealed on the inside to keep air from escaping, and the build quality is excellent. 
....There's a blue box at the bottom of the screen that says "pennock's image poster" Just click on that and follow the instructions.
