While I must agree that chop top Fieros look really great; I would say that for us guys 6' and up we would have to shorten our necks to fit in there. My head nearly touches the headliner right now!
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I would say that for us guys 6' and up we would have to shorten our necks to fit in there. My head nearly touches the headliner right now!
Not really... My seat is lowered about an inch, and I could probably lower it another inch if I removed a layer of foam from the seat cushion, combined with a "gansta lean" and you would fit perfectly.
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8654 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
If all Fieros were chop-tops, I'd probably be driving a Miata, or an MR2. I wouldn't like having my head almost touching the roof. Not only is it annoying, but it's a safety hazard.
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Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
Fellas, Is it true that Pontiac originally design the Fiero with a 1" lower profile? My understanding is they had to raise it up a bit to allow for a wider diversity of drivers. A shorter profile would have turned away the demographics Pontiac was aiming at. Was this true?
Cordially, Kevin
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If all Fieros were chop-tops, I'd probably be driving a Miata, or an MR2. I wouldn't like having my head almost touching the roof. Not only is it annoying, but it's a safety hazard.
Well I sit short... I have at least three inches above my head in the chop top.
I don't know if the Fiero originally had a taller roofline, but the angle of the windshield is the one thing that dates the fastback.
A chop top looks 100% better in my opinion.
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Jakezilla3 Member
Posts: 80 From: Minneapolis MN Registered: May 2008
Well I sit short... I have at least three inches above my head in the chop top.
I don't know if the Fiero originally had a taller roofline, but the angle of the windshield is the one thing that dates the fastback.
A chop top looks 100% better in my opinion.
If I remember my Fiero reading. There's a paragraph in the Fiero (Gary Wizenburg) book saying the car was originally designed 2 inches shorter, until the head honcho (6ft 5) sat in, and engineers/designers found out, you don't build cars the CEO can't sit in. But I agree, the Fiero greenhouse should be about 2 inches lower. But I also remember hitting a pothole in my chop and it felt like someone kicked me in the bum, and knocked me on the top of my noggin
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Hmmm.... a lot of nice photoshop work on here. Apparently the majority (if not everyone) seems to to be in favour of the chop top look. Just curious, but is there anyone out there that prefers the original roof line to the chop? I think that chopped, the roof line looks out of proportion to the rest of the car. ...all a matter of preference I suppose. Regardless, it's still neat to see what a lot have accomplished here with a bit of imagination and know how.
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85SEnochie Member
Posts: 2081 From: Tri-cities, WA Registered: Oct 2007
I have two problems with choptops that is why I would not do one and they do look cool,I am a big person 242 lbs at 6' and clusterphobic,I hate the plastic windows and the distorted vision duye to the angle of layback.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I have two problems with choptops that is why I would not do one and they do look cool,I am a big person 242 lbs at 6' and clusterphobic,I hate the plastic windows and the distorted vision duye to the angle of layback.
Actually that's three reasons, but who's counting.
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85SEnochie Member
Posts: 2081 From: Tri-cities, WA Registered: Oct 2007
Could you not do a t-top conversion after the chop?
Maybe, but it wouldn't (couldn't) be by the book because the roof is now too short for all the measurements to work. The trailing edge of the glass is going to be about 2 inches aft of where it's supposed to be. The "B" pillar reinforcements are going to be in the wrong place, and the structural part of the roof is going to be about 2 inches shorter.
Not that it can't be done, but keeping the t-top glass and the windshield glass stock is going to be very difficult.
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whodeanie Member
Posts: 3819 From: woodstock,Ga.,USA Registered: Jan 2008
If all Fiero's were choptops I would own 10 or more! ha ha! I have tracked what the choptop cost to do because I have so many other things I am also doing to the car. and I realy dont want to know what the car will end up costing. I just add to it as I can afford it. I have tacked what I have spent on the car since the day I got it but I don't want to add it up because it might make me want to quit while I am behind. what ever it ends up costing does not matter to me what matters is it will be Cool! and one of a kind the same way all of my projects are.
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85SEnochie Member
Posts: 2081 From: Tri-cities, WA Registered: Oct 2007
If all Fiero's were choptops I would own 10 or more! ha ha! I have tracked what the choptop cost to do because I have so many other things I am also doing to the car. and I realy dont want to know what the car will end up costing. I just add to it as I can afford it. I have tacked what I have spent on the car since the day I got it but I don't want to add it up because it might make me want to quit while I am behind. what ever it ends up costing does not matter to me what matters is it will be Cool! and one of a kind the same way all of my projects are.
Just what is a ballpark on what it would cost to have this done to a Fiero? Start to finish.
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8654 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by Blacktree: If all Fieros were chop-tops, I'd probably be driving a Miata, or an MR2. I wouldn't like having my head almost touching the roof. Not only is it annoying, but it's a safety hazard.
Agree. IMO won't even consider chopping a Notchback, looks squashed.
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Originally posted by exoticse: Time to stir the pot again, hehehehe. Can somebody do a chop on Clay's widebody ?
a few different angles.
Without the chop that side view looks like a Datsun IMO.
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Originally posted by exoticse: I think archie charges around 4K.
Well if you are a DIYer than F355spider will walk you thru the choptop process (webcam) and you will get a great deal with glass windows too.
I like the look of the chop-top but I'm glad not all Fiero are. If they were I couldn't own one like the Mini I wouldn't be able to fit in it. My head is already touching the roof as it is.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
While I must agree that chop top Fieros look really great; I would say that for us guys 6' and up we would have to shorten our necks to fit in there. My head nearly touches the headliner right now!
agreed. 6'6", and stock height is an issue. iv tried to think of a way to drop the seat to be an inch or 2 shorter before, though never any real hard thought... hmm...
iv tried to think of a way to drop the seat to be an inch or 2 shorter before, though never any real hard thought... hmm...
When Archie chops a car he does lower the seat by about an inch by removing the cross support and bolting the seats directly to the floor.
Also when I recovered my seats I scooped out about an inch of foam. The inch of foam didn't lower by an inch because it's compressed when you are sitting on it, but at least it dropped between 1/4" and 1/2"