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Building a tube frame fiero by gusshotrod
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Report this Post02-25-2005 02:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for gusshotrodSend a Private Message to gusshotrodDirect Link to This Post
I'm guessing that's the front of my imsa?

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Wow, that looks pretty close thanks Norm www.normsfiberglass.com

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Nice! I forgot you mentioned having a "normal" Fiero too

I thought maybe it was the front clip for this car. I couldn't tell whether that was tires or deeply flared wheel openings on the sides.

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The front suspension so far. Should have this wrapped up tomorrow.




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WOW!!!!
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Amazing... You make it look WAAAAYYYY too easy. If I keep following this thread, you're going to make me think I should try something and it's probably not going to look pretty when I'm done...Can't wait to see it thru.

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Wow, this is impressive. Reminds me of the days of building IMCA and NCRA chassis.

There's a guy in Austin Texas that purchased some parts from me that built a tube chassis with C5 running gear. Here is the link to his site.. http://www.lambobuilder.com/edb/Chassis/Index.htm

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Originally posted by gusshotrod:

The front suspension so far. Should have this wrapped up tomorrow.




did you add crush sleves where bolts go though the tubing and why did you use square tube not DOM for the lower control arm as DOM is alot stronger and is avalable in 1 inch OD with 7/16 ID
your work is progressing great and it is a very nice job and desine

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once the first one is done you can take measurements of all the lengths of tubing and sell the plans
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See.... here I am trying to find a bummed Fiero to buy and fix up. And here YOU are building one by hand... this sucks... welp, time to do what i should have done a long time ago... hang myself... thanks guy. Lates

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Yeah, crush sleeves on all bolts through tubing. I used square tube on some of the lower a-arm pieces because of the bending loads from the shock and sway bar. Square tube is stonger in bending.

All the A-arms are done and I mounted the sway bar.

There is five degrees of caster built in. I think you can see the anti-dive built into the upper a-arm brackets.

RIght now I'm trying to decide if I want to run the coil-overs inboard or outboard. I have it designed both ways. I'll drag this thing outside this week end and get some overall pics.

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I've got measurements on everything. Sample of part of dwg:
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Originally posted by gusshotrod:
All the A-arms are done and I mounted the sway bar.

You did leave enough room for an axle to go through, right?

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You did leave enough room for an axle to go through, right?

DOHH!! (Doing my best Homer Simpson )

Actually, I think this is the front end and I don't think's it AWD.

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Originally posted by gusshotrod:

I've got measurements on everything. Sample of part of dwg:


since you have the rear chassie stretched why not go with side mounted rads in series as I did no need for long cooling tubes and mount a front fuel tank

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Originally posted by gusshotrod:

Yeah, crush sleeves on all bolts through tubing. I used square tube on some of the lower a-arm pieces because of the bending loads from the shock and sway bar. Square tube is stonger in bending.

All the A-arms are done and I mounted the sway bar.

There is five degrees of caster built in. I think you can see the anti-dive built into the upper a-arm brackets.

RIght now I'm trying to decide if I want to run the coil-overs inboard or outboard. I have it designed both ways. I'll drag this thing outside this week end and get some overall pics.

inboard would be the best if you dont mind building the bellcranks and going F1 style with the right coilover for the left wheel and the left coilover for the right wheel it would keep a lot of weight of the lower control arm

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Do pullrod actuated shocks, too... not pushrod
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I've decided to mount the coil overs outboard. The difference in unsprung weight is minimal. Inboard would look trick but I don't think it's going to make enough difference in handling to notice. The radiator is going up front because of the 406 engine, which can be a bear to cool. I also don't want to worry about a tire shreading at speed taking out a radiator.
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i was just looking through a magazine article about the new zo6. it is supposed to have a completely aluminum frame!
aluminum . . . you say we might be lucky enough to get a copy of those plans?!
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Fasinating build.

Just out of curiosity, for those of us who might try a similar project (once your plans are realeased ;> ) are you mig welding everything, or have some of the welds required tig?

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Originally posted by gusshotrod:

I'm guessing that's the front of my imsa?

Norm, are you still thinking about doing this? Remember me if you do.

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About the welding: It depends on what material you want to use. I used Mig on everything. Some of the radius rods need pre-heat and slow cool because of the Moly ends. If TIG was used you could bypass this step. You could substitute moly tube for most of the car if you wanted which would then have to be TIG welded. The sheet metal could be TIG or MIG, whatever you are comfortable with.

The front suspension is finished. I didn't like the rear upper a-arms so I am redoing them, then I will get it outside and get some good pics (maybe tomorrow).

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I bought a power steering tank off EBAY and it came with this weld at no extra cost:

Sleeves welded into rear a-arm brackets:

Finished front suspension:

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wow. amazing. stunned. I don't know what else to say.

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WOW... that is simply amazing!!!
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Just one more:

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Purdy! What do you think she weighs?

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Have you thought about welding up some upper and lower control arms for sale to help you finance this beast?
It looks great

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I don't know what it weighs, but I can lift it. As for making parts for sale, right now what I need is more time. Lots of sheet metal work coming up, also headers. Still got a few things to finish on the frame also. At least I got the garage cleaned up (a little).
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Originally posted by gusshotrod:

I can lift it.

wow, can you guys picture me lifting a stock frame!? would it weigh maybe 500 pounds?

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very nice
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ricreatr:

wow, can you guys picture me lifting a stock frame!? would it weigh maybe 500 pounds?[/QUOTE

Just the space frame with everything removed I bet you could lift it.

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Dude..... If we ever get to a track day together I got an idea ..... I'll take you for a ride if you take me for a ride!

What a work of art! (Right click ..... save ........right click.....save.......)

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Deal! Right now I've got to go out in the garage and make engine noises.
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ok ill give you all i got......like $7 and some odd change... deal? c,mon you dont need that cluttering up your driveway! i go plenty of room to keep it and ill even put it to good use with my SBC!!! I SWEAR!!!!

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I see in one of your last sets of pics you have the frame in front of a Fiero, any chance we could see it along side of the Fiero for comparison?

Nice work by the way.

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Some helpful links I've done
How to remove inner door panels, with pics.
How to remove outer door panels, with pics.
How to make rear coil-overs using factory struts, with pics.

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quote
Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ricreatr:

wow, can you guys picture me lifting a stock frame!? would it weigh maybe 500 pounds?[/QUOTE

Just the space frame with everything removed I bet you could lift it.

Im a bodybuilder/weightlifter/powerlifter and I cant lift a stock space frame up by myself, just one end or the other. Of course it is too bulky to get to the center of gravity in order to try to lift it completly off the ground. Regardless, it must weigh at least 800lbs. Gusshotrod, that frame is a work of art

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Originally posted by Erik:

it must weigh at least 800lbs. Gusshotrod, that frame is a work of art

YEOUCH! i wonder how much weight was saved in those alcan aluminum frames that were stamped from the fiero molds? sure like to have one.

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