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Anyone out there still do throttle body boring? by Kitskaboodle
Started on: 09-27-2010 03:54 PM
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Report this Post09-27-2010 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KitskaboodleSend a Private Message to KitskaboodleDirect Link to This Post
Just wondering if anyone out there bores the stock throttle bodies for the 2.8?
I know the Fierstore sells them but they're too much. (in my opinion)
And yes, I know Darrel Morse used to do them. (wish he still did!)

Would prefer to send mine out for machining to avoid the swapping & core charge stuff.
Also, I do have a concern about throttle plate mismatching since I have read a thread or two
about the Fierstore's Big Bore throttle bodies having the wrong size or misadjusted throttle
plates which had caused some to have high idle issues.

Thanks, Kit
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Report this Post09-27-2010 04:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
Member "Dawg" on here does them.

See this thread. I think he bores them for $120.00
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/051596.html
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Report this Post09-27-2010 04:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rick 88Send a Private Message to Rick 88Direct Link to This Post
katatak has one for sale at the moment ready to go.
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Report this Post09-27-2010 09:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakDirect Link to This Post
Probably belongs over in the Mall but I have a bored TB - my cheap digital caliper says it's 55.93mm. It is off a running/driving 88 2.8. Comes complete with the TPS and IAC. No high idle issues, motor ran great! - painted black. Make me an offer!




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Report this Post09-28-2010 10:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bowrapennocksDirect Link to This Post
I have a FS throttlebody and like it was mentioned above, the throttle plate was the wrong size. The car idled at 2500 until I replaced the throttle plate with one that I cut down from a larger blank. Several folks in our club recently purchased bored throttle bodies from:

http://www.throttlebodys.com/FieroTBs.htm

These are bored more than the FS version and appear to be well done.
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Report this Post09-29-2010 05:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Francis TClick Here to visit Francis T's HomePageSend a Private Message to Francis TDirect Link to This Post
If you're using a stock intake, even ported one, you won't see much if any gains in power over a stock TB.

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Report this Post09-29-2010 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for carnut122Send a Private Message to carnut122Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Francis T:

If you're using a stock intake, even ported one, you won't see much if any gains in power over a stock TB.



Yep, Darrel Morse used to port the upper intake too at a much more reasonable price. Why did he quit doing these?
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Originally posted by Francis T:

If you're using a stock intake, even ported one, you won't see much if any gains in power over a stock TB.



If you were doing a 3.1 stroker or 3.4 conversion, this would make sense though?
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Report this Post10-08-2011 06:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mattwaSend a Private Message to mattwaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by USFiero:


If you were doing a 3.1 stroker or 3.4 conversion, this would make sense though?


Not if you have the stock intake. The bigger displacement, the worse the stock intake becomes. It's just barely acceptable for a 2.8 IMHO.
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Originally posted by USFiero:


If you were doing a 3.1 stroker or 3.4 conversion, this would make sense though?


You still have the bottle neck known as the fiero manifold. If you matched the upper, middle and lower along with the TB, ported the exhaust manifold and cut up the Y pipe and did some port work there you will yield about *6-10HP on a good day.
*Results may vary.
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Report this Post10-08-2011 08:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Francis T:

If you're using a stock intake, even ported one, you won't see much if any gains in power over a stock TB.


I know a guy who built a 3.4L with the ported intake and the oversized Morse TB and he claimed that it worked well. If he switched over to your Truleo manifold would the difference be that noticable?

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Wasn't the throttle body bore on the 3.4 F-body the same size as the stock Fiero 2.8?
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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
I know a guy who built a 3.4L with the ported intake and the oversized Morse TB and he claimed that it worked well. If he switched over to your Truleo manifold would the difference be that noticable?



I believe it would. With the bottleneck in the stock (even modified) upper intake, the engine will run out of steam at ~5000.
Doesn't matter what else you do. Cam, porting headers, etc. It's all limited by the upper manifold.

The Trueleo made the rest of the mods on my 3.4 worthwhile. Before I did that, I was looking for another engine to swap in.
A larger TB, in addition to the Trueleo, will help even more. Someone (don't recall who) was doing 63mm throttle bodies.

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