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I'm on a roll...20x11 will it fit? by madcurl
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Report this Post11-04-2003 12:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Okay guys/girls(Tina) how far do you think a 20x11 rim will stick-out with a Archie/IRM rocker kit? My guess is 1 1/2".

Byw, dont worry about the tire size, it will be a rubber band...295/25/20 P nero zero's. It has the same diameter of a 245/35/19. yeah I know its a Caleeforian thing, strickly for the bling, bling in yah, he,he.

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Report this Post11-04-2003 12:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
What is P nero zeros. Is that the same as Pirelli P Zeros. I heard those stick like glue. I bought new tires for my Prizm. I asked the guy at Hibdon what some Pzeros would run for my car. He laughed. Anyway I bet they look sweet. Hope you never have to drive here. You will have to swap to 16" rims LOL.
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Report this Post11-04-2003 01:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OsloClick Here to visit Oslo's HomePageSend a Private Message to OsloDirect Link to This Post
What's this?
A 20" rim on a Fiero? Only legends exist of such a thing...
All this talk, and no pictures?

disgraceful....

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Report this Post11-04-2003 01:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
ask and ye shall recieve.
they were posted a while back




Not only 20s, but HRE to boot!

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Report this Post11-04-2003 03:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
Wow those look 100X better than I thought they would. Mad glad I mentioned your car as one of the nicest FB in that thread. Very sharp.
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i want to know what kind of offsets work if you try it. i have irm's on an 87 with 255/50-16's that kind of just peek out of the fenders. they're on 7.5" rims with i think a 35mm offset. got another car with irm's that i hope to put 17 or 18x8.5 or 10" (got two sets with both sizes) on the rear (84 with 88 cradle set up. 17x7.5 on front), but since it's not together yet i'm just hoping i can pull it off.
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Report this Post11-04-2003 11:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ChopTopSend a Private Message to ChopTopDirect Link to This Post
I believe this is the first Fiero with 20s. HRE are custom wheels, which means these wheels were expensive. Suspension and wheels specs would be appreciated. But I don't believe the owner of this car is on the forum, or may not want to reveal the specs.
There's a tool out called Wheel Mate, basically it's a tool that fit on the wheel hub and allows you to adjust it to figure out the perfect wheel for your application.
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Report this Post11-04-2003 12:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr. PatClick Here to visit Mr. Pat's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr. PatDirect Link to This Post
If you look to the originator of this thread you will see his name is Madcurl They're his 20's

400 woohoo! A I a post whore now? Ive never been in a club before

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Wow, That's a BEAUTIFUL car!
How much is it chopped?

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Report this Post11-04-2003 12:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Hmmmmm......hey Choptop, Its me. I'm your 11th cousin (hint), he,he. The spec's for the fronts are a well kept secret. Just ask for Steve 510 567-1888 however, he's at SEMA dealers part show in Las Vegas so give it a week.

Philphine, you can put 19 x 9's up front with 255/30/19 but you'll have to pump-up pecs/triceps to handle it! Oh yeah, before I forget...I've already have them. Besides their only 1" wider than a 19x8 on 225/35/19.
Sorry no pics...I'll post them next week.

Back to the original question; how far do you guys think it will stick out in front of the rear wheel with 295/25/20 or 345/25/20's with a IRM kit?

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well, like i said, wheel size and offsets aside my 255's just peek out so i'm saying 1.5" for 295's and 3.5" for 345's.

remember too the the irm's only make the front edge of the rear wheel opening wider, the top is still the widest point of the opening. on my longterm project the irms are glassed to the rest of the rear so i'm thinking if i get the wheels on and missing the suspension on the inside, i'll try some kind of fender flare if it stickes out more than i want on the outside. that also means trying to work out something for the part of the opening in the rear that is part of the urethane bumper, but i'm going so slow i don't know when i'll find that out.

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Report this Post11-04-2003 02:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Hey thanks Philphine for your response. I also think w/295's would be 1.5" sticking out. However, for the rear bumper I wanted to use a vented/fiberglass molded onto it or flaring it out at the bottom end. I can always fiberglass the top portion of the rear clip above the tire.

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Report this Post11-04-2003 03:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Smooth 88coupeSend a Private Message to Smooth 88coupeDirect Link to This Post
Damn!! I like those 20's. Think they will fit my car? I would love to have that big of wheels on my car. And I can get a really good deal on them too.
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Report this Post11-04-2003 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SLAMMED87GTSend a Private Message to SLAMMED87GTDirect Link to This Post
Rollin' on twentieesss...with the top down

Sippin' on fortieesss...with the top down

Me and my homies....(These are song lyrics btw)

THey look good man!

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Report this Post11-04-2003 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Offset is critical...

17x9-45 should be about as much backspacing as the suspension can fit. Maybe a little more with 20's...

16x8-25 with 255/50-16 tires on my car lines up perfectly with the fenders with -1.5 degrees camber.

So I'd guess that a 20x11-20 would stick out from the fender by 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inches, and would be set in by 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 inches with a Fiero Warehouse (formerly IRM) widebody, which I've heard gives 3 more inches on each side of the rear.

There may be room for a bit more offset than that. Measure carefully...

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Report this Post11-05-2003 06:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieromadmanClick Here to visit fieromadman's HomePageSend a Private Message to fieromadmanDirect Link to This Post
hey madcurl, i want more shots of your car! How about a thread with all of the specs in it? Are you running a northstar? i thought someone mentioned that you were??
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Report this Post11-05-2003 06:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wildbill86gtSend a Private Message to wildbill86gtDirect Link to This Post
I agree, I think you have the best car out there and I would love to know everything about it!!!
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Report this Post11-05-2003 06:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post

Sorry ...
Don't know a thing about tires
But if yours handles anywhere close to mine (a dumptruck comes to mind)you might wanna invest in a kidneybelt

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I'm working on putting together a page with all of the buildup info on Curley's car. I have all of the old before and during pictures.. It will be up soon...

Curley, Have you decided to come down for lunch on Saturday yet?

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D@MN!
Only one thing I cant say...
Bling!¡

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Report this Post11-05-2003 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Hey Songman, is it possible to make a map and post it at the other thread? I will try to make it, but it cant stay too long, just long enough to win a free 3800SC install, right, ha,ha.

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Report this Post11-05-2003 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ls3machSend a Private Message to ls3machDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by SLAMMED87GT:

Rollin' on twentieesss...with the top down

Sippin' on fortieesss...with the top down

Me and my homies....(These are song lyrics btw)

THey look good man!

Not even close LOL . However it is very fitting.

Madcurl I love that car. WOW

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Anyone here have high res pictures of that car?
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Report this Post11-06-2003 03:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
On the Vegasfest thread 8/2/03, only 3-4 pics.

Okay I'm going with 295/25/20 tire on a 20x11. 20x11's are exactly 1 1/2" out from my current 20x9.5 This should give the rim a mirror finish. I might go 345/25/20 tires later, although, they look good on the Sellen 7. 295's only weigh 21 Ibs v. 345/25/20's @ 25 Ibs.
The fronts are 255/30/19's on 19x9 with Corvett's 13" brakes on all 4's.

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Report this Post11-06-2003 08:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Will a 345 properly fit an 11" wheel? That's a 3 inch width difference on a very short sidewall. I'd want a 13" wheel for a 345.

Do you know what offset your front 19x9's are?
What about your 20x9.5's?

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In all-n-all i have no clue as to the exact size of the 19x9, 19x8, 20x9.5, and 20x11's offset. I'm joking about it being secret, I would like to share all of mine info on them. Thats what HRE is getting paid for.

However, Steve @ Custon Auto does have the spec's on them. Several members did call and when he got the specs from HRE(I guess they don't like to give out their specs voluntary), the persons never called back.

I didn't think that nobody else would be a mad/crazy to get on a Fiero. But like ever thing else (LT1,LS1), somebody will get around to doing it.

As for the 20x11, all I need to do is call, because of the previous 19x9's or 20x9.5's the exact specs can be based on the two sets.
Which, for example; I need a 20x11, add 1 1/2"to the outer lip, based on the 20x9.5 rim specs previouly ordered.

Will a 345 fit on a 20x11? Yes.

A 345 tire fits between 11-13.5" That's why I'm going with 11" that way if I change my mind later, I can switch. A 12" would cause the tire to appear straight w/the rim. 11" will cause the tire to bulge a little. 13" would require a lot of body work. The kit I'm hopping to get is about 1 1/2" out from the body.

Anyway, thanks for you guys comments on the original question.
Thanks Curls.

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You can send your old tires & rims to me since you don't need them any more! Seriously, what are you going to do with them or where are you going to sell them. I love your car!!!!

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Report this Post11-06-2003 05:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
What wheels/rims wildbill86?

I have several cars. The only tires that I don't need for now are the (2)245/35/19's and some old Borbet rims (4)15x7.

The 245/35/19 I can put those on the import or just wait until the others ware-out.

P.s. 245/35's look good, but not on the front of a Fiero otherwise one would need a bigger side/wall tire in back.

When I see Songman I will ask him to take pics.

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I was talking about the one's on your car in the sig. I asume ( make a ass out of U&ME( me anyway!) These are the 19's, but I would want all four if I could afford them.
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Oh those!!!

Those on the sig are Borbets (4)17x7.5's. I use those when I'm roll'n in unchartered lands or when the cars are in the shop.

Rims are like Fiero's you start off w/one next thing later...you have 4-5 different sets.

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so are we going to see a thread on your car soon or what? ehh buddy??
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i never though 20" rims would look soo bad @ss on the fiero. im going to start saving for a set for mine.

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Darn it! I'd sent back the 22's back to the Tire rack.

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Thats what a fiero is supposed to look like folks- who needs a rebody or even a real diablo with cars like curls and chesters...

Drop n chop!

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Report this Post11-09-2003 04:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2Fast_FieroClick Here to visit 2Fast_Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to 2Fast_FieroDirect Link to This Post
MadCurl...I have a question. Look at the picture of the car, I love how the rear wheels and tires look. But the fronts...the offset is different, the tires look like rubber bands. If you used the same offset and tire size in the fronts but on 19's...would it be much different? Cause I like the way the rear end looks, but not the front.
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Nahhhh.....2Fast_Fiero. Yes the offsets are different. I wanted a "stagger'd look." Bigger lip in the rear. To get the same outer lip f & r, the fronts would be sticking out past the front spoiler. This problem is evident in all stock 88GT's. GM made it "better" but screwed-up the look.

Also evident in some after market wheels. Me...I like the 60-70's look where the rear tires are big or like todays Viper, NSX, Porsche, and Prowler.
The tires though, are just about the same in over-all height. Rears 3.2 and Fronts 3.1. So for me I can't "visually" tell the difference in height, but hey...Both are rubberbands. THanks for comments
curls

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Hmmmmm......talk is cheap. I do have pics, hehe. Songman must be out of town. Who can post them? Need your email address.
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Hmmmmm......talk is cheap. I do have pics, hehe. Songman must be out of town. Who can post them? Need your email address.

Send them to me and I'll post for ya. renee.rob@fewpb.net

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Here are the pics, hot off the press! Very nice!!

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Tire Rack's 305/25/20 are out of stock. I may have to wait
3-4 wks. However, I will have Songman post some pics of them on the car (thats if Songman is around town).

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