Yes, as I look the last time I mentioned it was June 2005, still been working on it. As I continue to gather more data, it is still a grassroots project. For you newbies post 2005, just go to the archieves and type in t-top book. No sense rehashing it here again. But as for the milestone of the 1252 CJB t-top cars produced, I have only 49 Models left to figure out, 104 colors left , that is the good news, but half of the 88 production run of trans. and interior color for the 88 t-tops to go. So keep sending me your 88 t-top information. Many people that I have shown this to are excited, I realize I will not get 100% of the data, unless Pontiac Historic Society gives me access to their records. I would like to have it almost completed by 25th anniversary. with * NA for not available at printing time. Vin#, exterior color, interior color, trans, seat for GT cloth, leather or power lumbar.
As you can see by the original post at the top, I did not have a complete book yet, but I did let some people at the 25th Fiero Show see what I had already and they were pleased Still need to figure out 48 models and 97 colors, so if you have a 88 t-top fiero and can provide the information I am looking for above you can pm me or email podziemj@matc.edu
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007DOUG Member
Posts: 1280 From: Wheeling, WV 26003 Registered: Feb 2000
Originally posted by FIERO JOHN-WI:..........I realize I will not get 100% of the data, unless Pontiac Historic Society gives me access to their records.......
PHS has always been stingy with their records. I've never been able to understand why a "historical society" is secretive about history.
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However...... "Time is the most precious and perishable of my possessions."
PHS has always been stingy with their records. I've never been able to understand why a "historical society" is secretive about history.
That's an easy one to answer .. Jim Mattison (PHS) will provide you with as much information as you are willing to pay for. They are by no means philanthropists.
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
I thought I would bring this post to the top, since if you look at the post it is from feb, 2007 and I know we have gotten some new members that may not know about this or know someone who has a 88 T-topp fiero and just to let you know this is a grassroots project (meaning)in 2007 I needed 49-models, now (2009) I only need 48 models, In 2007 I needed to figure out 104 colors, in 2009 I need to figure out only 99 more colors. as far as transmissions and GT seat I am still at about half way there as well.. So keep them coming. Here is my email if you do not want to post on here. podziemj@matc.edu
Thank you to all that keep sending me your information, some of them I didn't have and some I need more information, I emailed everyone that I need more information from.
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
Hello Fiero T-top (CJB) Owners just wanted to give you a update on: FIERO FORMULA's and what I have left to figure out.
299 Fiero Formulas (CJB) T-top cars produced in 1988
I need to figure out 13 more Formula vin# I need to figure out 37 more Exterior colors I need to figure out 158 more Interior colors I need to figure out 156 more Transmissions
So if you find any more 1988 Fiero t-top cars send me the info: vin #, Exterior, Interior, Transmission heres my email address podziemj@matc.edu
Enjoy Fiero John-WI
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
**************************************** 88 Formula CJB Arrived Finally. #689 of 1252 Time to start Working TONY! There are Two kinds of Fiero's : Notchies and Donors!
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Posts: 1019 From: Gold Canyon, Arizona Registered: Feb 2010
Hi John, I called and talked with you about a month ago concerning a Black '88 GT T-Top car in Bristol, TN. I did end up purchasing the car, and just wanted to say thanks for your valuable insight and assistance with all the questions. You should have most all the info about this car since we covered the VIN on it, but I'd like to converse with you again in the future just to make sure I've got all the facts & dates right about it. I think your T-Top registry and information gathering is going to be a great resource for the entire Fiero community, and I'm glad to say that after 24 years of driving my first Fiero I'm finally an owner myself. I'm really enjoying this car...
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Kento Member
Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
Still not able to get you the codes but here are the basics, White Formula, AC, PDL, Grey int, Cruise, 5 Spd.
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**************************************** 88 Formula CJB Arrived Finally. #689 of 1252 Time to start Working TONY! There are Two kinds of Fiero's : Notchies and Donors!
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
Axdrenalin, your car looks as great as you described it! I am glad you enjoyed all the detailed information I had on your 1988 Fiero T-top. Also thanks for all the kinda words to "everyone" I am glad that my passion for 88 t-top Fieros helps the Fiero Community manintain a piece of valuable history! Plus a special Thanks to N.I.F.E. they just released their latest issue of Fiero Focus, where they published a featured article on the 88 Fiero T-top and a little history on the T-top project, prior to the 88 option. The article I wrote has some great pictures as well (3 pages worth) Thank you to them, it has been a major promotion for me (especially since this has been a grassroots project) and my quest to get this book done. I have gotten 4 new owners that have contacted me with their information, since the issue came out!!! Fiero John-WI podziemj@matc.edu
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Kento Member
Posts: 4218 From: Beautifull Winston Salem NC Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by FIERO JOHN-WI: Plus a special Thanks to N.I.F.E. they just released their latest issue of Fiero Focus, Fiero John-WI podziemj@matc.edu
How does one get a copy of said issue?
Also you mentioned that only 299 Formulas were T-Tops, I know mine was 689 in the run but what # Formula was it?
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
Kento, I have been working on that as well for the book, I think people would find it to be another great feature in the book, but still working on figuring out 47 more vin# (and it is not as easy as one may think) But I am glad us T-top owners think a like!!!!!!!!!!!
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Axdrenalin Member
Posts: 478 From: Mountain City, Tennessee Registered: Mar 2011
I've been bitten, and I'm very interested in learning a lot more about the history behind the Fiero. Ever since I brought my car home, I find myself browsing the forums here (and the web) wanting to learn more. I'm already talking about getting a second one, and have found several I'd like to have. I think that I'd like to get one that needs some TLC just so I can get together with my 12 year old son and start working on it together. Then I wouldn't feel so bad about taking panels off a nice looking car and replacing them with modded ones!
Let me know on how to obtain a copy of that issue you've mentioned...
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
A quick 2012 UPDATE on the 1252 CJB Fiero T Top cars: still need to figure out 47 Models, 90 more Exterior Colors Thank you to the people that continue to send me their information and I "really Thankful" to the fiero owners that don't own a 88 T-top fiero by find one and send me all the information on them. Here is what I'm looking for, should you come across one: vin# exterior color interior color transmission: 5sp or auto And if it's a GT the seat option: just cloth, leather or cloth with power lumbar
Should you not have a pen or paper to write this information down, Cell phone picture of the vin# & exterior & interior picture will work and Trust me I have a gotten a lot of them this way and everyone we find helps!!!!
Please let me know if you had this Fiero in your records. Thank you!
------------------ Now new owner of a Black TTop 88 Fiero GT and owner of a Silver 88 Fiero GT. Also a second time owner of an 85 Fiero GT. Bought my first fully loaded Red Fiero GT new in 1985. Fiero's are Fabulous, Fix'em and have Fun! Note, Avatar picture is Mr. Bean (not me, ha ha).
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40935 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
This is a bit of a tangent for your purposes, but check out the 88 GT T-top that recently sold in the mall. It was not an original car. It was painted mint green, but looked very good in the pics.
The really special thing about this car is that it did not have the black plastic trim pieces between the T-top glass and the rear clip. The glass extended all the way back to the rear clip.
I have only (maybe) seen pictures of one other car that had this setup. Looks to be a very early production kit, that was retrofitted. Wish I could have picked up the car.
Jackshaw Pontiac Inc. Lakewood ohio Final Assembly Point PONIAC,MI U.S.A SOS=2 optional equipment AF9 seat-inflatable drivers bucket 125.00 B34 mats,carpet front floor 24.00 CJ8 No charge C49 defogger,elec rear window 145.00 D80 spoiler,rear deck 269.00 L44 2.8 liter fi v-6 engine no charge MX1 automatic transmission,3-speed 490.00 UQ6 speaker system-subwoofer 150.00 UX1 am st/fm st etr radio system 160.00 w/cass,graphic equalizer & clock VK3 license plate bracket,front no charge 1SA option package-#1 Consists of: C60 air conditioning 775.00 D34 visor vanity mirror 7.00 K34 cruise control 175.00 AU3 power door locks 145.00 DG7 power mirrors-dual 79.00
81U paint-bright red-primary no charge total price delivered 19319.05 Factory T-TOPS added date 10 may 1988 I am second owner I have window stcker and bill of sale working on restoring as soon as I get better Liver transplant in april of this year.
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FIERO JOHN-WI Member
Posts: 2408 From: GREENFIELD, WI, MILWAUKEE Registered: Jun 2001
Ill have to look at my dads T-Top. its an 87 but has the "factory" sticker for it. i just don't remember what it said.. I also saved a t-top roof from being junked too. it wasn't from a factory car. well i didn't pull it off one. but it still coulda been..
FIERO JOHN-WI, would you know who the previous owner was of my black T-Top 88 Fiero GT VIN 1G2PG1197JP210413 as noted earlier in this post with pictures? Thank you again for hooking me up with Wayne Kitzerow for my silver 88 Fiero GT. Best regards, John
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hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6091 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
