What a poor attempt at a smoke screen. A squid does the same thing when it's trying to get away. Luckily for me I only need to go to one thread to find all the grand standing and cape flustering to show the hypocrisy behind what you say.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Oh, the shoe isn't so comfortable when it's on your foot. Imagine that.
Actually, I don't own replicas. I own modified Fiero's. Therefore I'm comfortable in my skin with Fiero name/crest on my cars. I have no need to purchase a $600 engine covers to prove I'm apart of a group that can't except constructive criticism when the flaws are bought to the light.
A cheaper version, really.
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Originally posted by madcurl: Actually, I don't own replicas.
I said you own kit cars.
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Originally posted by madcurl: I have no need to purchase a $600 engine covers to prove I'm apart of a group that can't except constructive criticism when the flaws are bought to the light.
Is this your idea of constructive criticism?
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Originally posted by madcurl: ... all other kit cars are stupid
How about the super hero pic? Constructive? Is grinding your opinion into every replica/kit car owners face time and again for 33 months constructive criticism?
No, you're definitely not part of our group, so you should go rejoin whatever group you are in and leave the kit car threads to us, unless you opinion is specifically sought... just don't hold your breath waiting for an invitation.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
No, you're definitely not part of our group, so you should go rejoin whatever group you are in and leave the kit car threads to us, unless you opinion is specifically sought... just don't hold your breath waiting for an invitation.
"Opinon specifically sought"- Sorry Charlie. Your Canadian headship stops at the border. I live in the United States of America, not Canada and the last time I read the title of this thread, "End of Kit Cars?" not "Bloozberry Common Wealth." If your replicant skin is wearing too thin-all I can tell you is to "go pound snow" for your small band of replicants have already attacked the "Choptop Chronicles" gnashing your teeth. Therefore, the evidence supports that you are the person(s) with a serious fiberglass chip on your shoulders.
As for the invitation-no thanks. I drive modified Fieros and I know my identity.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
See I knew it. I tuned in......more came....and I missed NOTHING.
Where is the negativity towards kit / replica whatever coming from.
Do they really have anything to do with your life.
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Well I was by told by 1 member that someone is always right and another member to just to let it go. So Merry Christmas
And one more thing - I guess I don't understand why this is in the construction zone - anyone care to let me in on the secret.
You tell me. The last time I saw your posting it was on the choptop thread.
Moving on. Instead of gnashing your teeth at me. Chew on this.
After all this what this thread is really about replicating the real McCoy and getting it right. Notice the side windows, the front windshield, the roof line, and much much more.
I like my car how it is if it bothers u then o well. Why are you concerned about MY car. You should buy one and do your tweaking to it. I will do whatever whenever to it at my discretion - chew on that. I think you want to change others cars to what is in your head - why don't you stick with your own cars - you've got a lot more work so your efforts are only diminished by bothering with the lowly kit car guys. Peace out hope you are well and good luck with your endeavors.
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Wow, that's news to me. Which ones are kit cars, hehehe. I thought they were modified Fieros. Dude, lay off the Blooz and berry.
It's true you don't own a replica of anything, but I consider the Arch rival a kit car. It's got a Mad-acrh kit on it , it's got as Archie choptop kit in it , it's got mismatched front and rear bumpers on it, a Cadillac engine, Corvette brakes, lets not for get the Ferrari mirrows, Lambo doors....
Originally posted by madcurl: Wow, that's news to me. Which ones are kit cars, hehehe.
Uhh... let's see... the one that doesn't look anything like a Fiero but you keep telling everyone it is one, and that it's 25 years old? You know, the one that shares as much in common with a Fiero as just about every replica does with the car it imitates? Wait, I see where you're confused. Because you've "tweaked" your kit car with such original ideas like Audi LEDs and those other GM parts you've robbed off the shelf it's not just a kit anymore... it's a "one-off kit car". Anyways, to help clear up the confusion among all the cars you have, this is the one I'm talking about:
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Originally posted by madcurl: ...for your small band of replicants have already attacked the "Choptop Chronicles"
What's the matter? You pissed because you didn't "specifically seek their opinion" before they provided you constructive criticism? Funny how that works only in one direction in your world. Your provocations in this thead had nothing to do with it, I'm sure. Go on, kick the hive some more. Bring on the name calling, insult the nationalities, religious beliefs, race, political affiliations whatever you like, just keep spraying that smoke screen all around you. If you really don't want to answer the questions I've asked seriously, here's an exit strategy for you: Start calling us names to force the thread to the Trash Can. That way you can hide all the delightful things you've said in here without blowing anymore smoke.
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Originally posted by madcurl: the last time I read the title of this thread, "End of Kit Cars?" not "Bloozberry Common Wealth."
Yes... and the subtitle should read "A Voyage in the Mind of a Hypocrite"
And now for something completely different: another caption from the man who's in denial about his own super hero status (it's a good one):
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Originally posted by madcurl: Gasing up this morning and a guy looking nearly was ran over by a Verizon truck. The man was walking past the chopper and said, "Nice car. What is it?" When I responded he was walking towards the store and was shocked when I said, "Fiero." It was then when the man turned completly towards the car while he walked backwards. I saw a truck coming towards him and yelled, "Watch it!" The driver heard me too and stopped. I guess both of them were looking at the car and both were headed towards each other. The guy thanked me after he came back for the store.
An another from someone who's just your average everyday ordinary guy with no "fiberglass chip on his shoulder":
[Ego Trip ON]
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Originally posted by madcurl: A young lady in her 20's saw me in town. She knows me and has seen me driving 015, 020, and 011 before, so she jokingly said, "You change cars like you change girl friends." I responded by saying, "No. Like underwear. You don't wear them twice."
[Ego Trip OFF]
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
It's true you don't own a replica of anything, but I consider the Arch rival a kit car. It's got a Mad-acrh kit on it , it's got as Archie choptop kit in it , it's got mismatched front and rear bumpers on it, a Cadillac engine, Corvette brakes, lets not for get the Ferrari mirrows, Lambo doors....
Yep that sounds like a kit car to me...
Dude, let me seriously school you for you don't have your facts straight. If you can go out and buy the parts "as-is"-then it's a kit. If you happen to be in a accident and need parts-that's a kit. On the other hand if you can't go out and purchase the parts "as-is"-that my friend is a one-off. If you are in a accident and you can't replace the parts "as-is"-that is/was a one-off part. Kit cars on the other hand are "kits" or replicas to which you can call the company and purchase the parts need for repair.
Lesson II: There isn't a "mismatched front and rear" for there is nothing to which to base the car too. The front is a C6, but isn't. The rear bumper is a Fiero, but isn't. It has a V8Archie choptop, but doesn't look like the other 26 made. The brakes are Corvette, but brakets were specially made by D1S. The F360 mirrors are OEM, but aren't to the original specs and location for you can't go out and buy a set and mount them on.
Lesson III: If you're going to go out on a limb and try to morph #020 as a kit-get the story right, so I won't have to come back to correct you.
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What's the matter? You pissed because you didn't "specifically seek their opinion" before they provided you constructive criticism? Funny how that works only in one direction in your world. Your provocations in this thead had nothing to do with it, I'm sure. Go on, kick the hive some more. Bring on the name calling, insult the nationalities, religious beliefs, race, political affiliations whatever you like, just keep spraying that smoke screen all around you. If you really don't want to answer the questions I've asked seriously, here's an exit strategy for you: Start calling us names to force the thread to the Trash Can. That way you can hide all the delightful things you've said in here without blowing anymore smoke.
Actually, my entire thread is mainly dedicated to others chiming in to offer suggestions as-to where the build should go. As for "you" trying to dictate what a person should or shouldn't say/post in a "thread" that you didn't start-you come off like Dudly DoRight. As for "you" and your replicant crew attacking the choptop thread-then deleting the comment PROVES to everyone reading it you're the person(s) trying to hide the "delightful things you'rve said/or deleted.
Once again let me make sure you got the fact Dudly Do Right:
1. You followed me over to the Chronicle thread. 2. You deleted your delightful comments. 3. You're hating me for commenting on items that are lacking with some kit car builders-comments that you have already made. 4. Pictures I've posted on this thread has mainly come from other threads, but were reposted by me (here) and now Dudly Do Right has a problem with that.
"Failure is no accident."-Dr. Phil McGraw
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Uhh... let's see... the one that doesn't look anything like a Fiero but you keep telling everyone it is one, and that it's 25 years old? You know, the one that shares as much in common with a Fiero as just about every replica does with the car it imitates? Wait, I see where you're confused. Because you've "tweaked" your kit car with such original ideas like Audi LEDs and those other GM parts you've robbed off the shelf it's not just a kit anymore... it's a "one-off kit car". Anyways, to help clear up the confusion among all the cars you have, this is the one I'm talking about:
Dudly, you said "kit(s)" meaning more than one. I thought you were talking about the other one-offs, hehe.
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Dude, let me seriously school you for you don't have your facts straight. If you can go out and buy the parts "as-is"-then it's a kit. If you happen to be in a accident and need parts-that's a kit. On the other hand if you can't go out and purchase the parts "as-is"-that my friend is a one-off. If you are in a accident and you can't replace the parts "as-is"-that is/was a one-off part. Kit cars on the other hand are "kits" or replicas to which you can call the company and purchase the parts need for repair.
Lesson II: There isn't a "mismatched front and rear" for there is nothing to which to base the car too. The front is a C6, but isn't. The rear bumper is a Fiero, but isn't. It has a V8Archie choptop, but doesn't look like the other 26 made. The brakes are Corvette, but brakets were specially made by D1S. The F360 mirrors are OEM, but aren't to the original specs and location for you can't go out and buy a set and mount them on.
Lesson III: If you're going to go out on a limb and try to morph #020 as a kit-get the story right, so I won't have to come back to correct you.
Dude the only thing you are schooling anyone on is the fact that you are now offically the Shaunbag of the kit car owners on Pennocks
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Originally posted by madcurl: Actually, my entire thread is mainly dedicated to others chiming in to offer suggestions as-to where the build should go stoking my ego with my every exploit in my cars.
And the name calling begins:
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Originally posted by madcurl: Dudly DoRight.... Booze.... Charlie....
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Originally posted by madcurl: 1. You followed me over to the Chronicle thread. 2. You deleted your delightful comments.
Yes. I made one comment on 12 Dec 2011 and deleted it the same day. I answered cornersonrails question asking "What's up with all the hate", to which I replied with a link to this thread. Go ahead. Ask him. Edit to add: The reason both of us deleted our posts was out of respect for your thread at the time. Thank you for acknowledging your ignorance.
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Originally posted by madcurl: 3. You're hating me for commenting on items that are lacking with some kit car builders-comments that you have already made.
No. I'm mocking you for mocking others indescriminately. But I do find it interesting how your brand of constructive criticism feels like hatred to you when you're on the receiving end of it.
Now then, back to our discussion about the difference between a kit car and your car, to which you replied "QUALITY". Let's have a look at your definition of quality shall we? Apart from your dash, do you remember this?:
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Originally posted by Bubbajoexxx: that is the wrong way to install that caliper it is a floating caliper and it has 2 groves one on each side for the floating bracket the way you have it mounted will ware the front shoe off in no time look in my thread and you will see how it is suposed to be mounted shame on you
Did you fix it? Uhh... no.
Maybe the quality you speak of is hidden in the details, like the entire rough finished fiberglass of the under hood surface:
Or the hidden quality in these pictures:
And what's that rusty thing you're hiding behind those big brakes? Is that the quality we should all be striving for?
I can see how the level of detail of your car justifies all your rhetoric.
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Did you fix it? Uhh... no. I can see how the level of detail of your car justifies all your rhetoric.
Wow Captain Obvious, you must be experiencing selective viewing for I was clear as-too what my intentions regarding the E-brake were. Dude, stay off the Boozeberry for your rhetoric is starting to make no sense.
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After talking with Chris he suggested two options. One was to use Brembo Viper e-brake kit. They're pretty and should stop a car on a dime, but they are not cheap.
Giving the situation I'm in (N* automatic and to pass inspection) -I think I'll use the spot e-brakes for now. It's not like inspector is going to drive my car off and go power sliding or drifting in the parking lot to pass. As Chris mentioned the e-brake bracket grade of material should be made of thicker material, but since the clapping power is so weak it surely won't come close to bending the bracket. However, it would be nice to have a e-brake system that can stop on a dime. Just to add; I also reviewed the e-brake for the Lamborghini on Ebay. They want $400 per side-I don't think so.
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madcurl Member
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Maybe the quality you speak of is hidden in the details, like the entire rough finished fiberglass of the under hood surface:
I can see how the level of detail of your car justifies all your rhetoric.
You tell us Dudly BloozeRight. Do fiberglass parts normally come with a rough underside? The last I saw Norm's, V8Archie, and Dan in Fl all have rough surfaces on the backside and the exposed side is typically not paint ready. The 350Z hatch back underbelly too has a rough surface. I've talked to my painter regarding it and guess what he suggested?
In the meantime, if your that overly concerned you should inform all venders that they should prep the underside of their products. I'm sure you'll get a quick response from them. While I'm briefly on the subject. Do you know that the original F40 outer body isn't smooth to the touch. The car body was left "as-is" to reduce weight. I learn that on from Top Gear.
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Originally posted by madcurl: Wow Captain Obvious... Dudly BloozeRight
I can't wait to see what you call me next.
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Originally posted by madcurl: I was clear as-too what my intentions regarding the E-brake were.
Yes you were, you considered three options and chose none. Perhaps you base the quality of something on the number of things you consider.
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Originally posted by madcurl: Do fiberglass parts normally come with a rough underside?
I was searching for the quality you were talking about earlier that supposedly set your car apart from the pack. I can tell you my "stupid" 308 replica has inner and outer shells for both the front and rear lids, and my "stupid" 355 replica has an inner shell for the front lid.
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Originally posted by madcurl: if your that overly concerned you should inform all venders that they should prep the underside of their products
You see? There you go again putting words in my mouth. I'm not concerned about what venders do, or what the F40 is like, only what you say you're doing to your car which raises it above and beyond the level of a typical kit car. It's all about "tweaking" as you've said time and again.
So, have you talked to cornersonrails yet to confirm what the nature of my post in "your" thread was? And now after falsely accusing me all you can do is keep up the school yard tactics? How big of you.
Here, let me help you come up with another derogatory name for me: I'm French, Canadian, white, balding, conservative, and Catholic. That should help you out.
Yes you were, you considered three options and chose none. Perhaps you base the quality of something on the number of things you consider.
You said, "Perhaps" and this is what you're going with. So you're trying to be Dr. Bloozeberry of the Mounties, hehe.
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After talking with Chris he suggested two options. One was to use Brembo Viper e-brake kit. They're pretty and should stop a car on a dime, but they are not cheap.
Giving the situation I'm in (N* automatic and to pass inspection) -I think I'll use the spot e-brakes for now. It's not like inspector is going to drive my car off and go power sliding or drifting in the parking lot to pass. As Chris mentioned the e-brake bracket grade of material should be made of thicker material, but since the clapping power is so weak it surely won't come close to bending the bracket. However, it would be nice to have a e-brake system that can stop on a dime. Just to add; I also reviewed the e-brake for the Lamborghini on Ebay. They want $400 per side-I don't think so.
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Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
Originally posted by Bloozberry: Maybe the quality you speak of is hidden in the details, like the entire rough finished fiberglass of the under hood surface:
Or the hidden quality in these pictures:
And what's that rusty thing you're hiding behind those big brakes? Is that the quality we should all be striving for?
I can see how the level of detail of your car justifies all your rhetoric.
So Dudly, what you are trying to say is my car is completed and therefore all of the areas that have rust are to remain as-is. Wow! I didn't know you knew may thoughts and were car is headed. Amazing Captain. Amazing. You should've been around when it had 8" rotors with stock brakes and when the backend looked like a hearst , hehe.
Let see the transformation process:
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I removed the rust.
Now, that's purdy.
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Originally posted by madcurl:
I've been working and #020 is running a bit behind, but Steve was still putting in some time fabricating CAT/CAPS.
As you know, the original caps are shot and rusted out. I'll have the outer layer removed, drilled and replaced. When I purchase the car I didn't know that the cats were rusted until my arrival at V8Archie's.
The fit just fine and I'll have them chromed later on.
Dudly please continue. I like hearing from you all of the various items that need to be corrected on my car. I won't be offended, hehe.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Actually with a CAI system, ported exhaust manifolds, Hypertech chip, hollowed out cat w/ stock exhaust and slow shifts at 6000 rpm, it is not too difficult at all!
Dude, let me seriously school you for you don't have your facts straight. If you can go out and buy the parts "as-is"-then it's a kit. If you happen to be in a accident and need parts-that's a kit. On the other hand if you can't go out and purchase the parts "as-is"-that my friend is a one-off. If you are in a accident and you can't replace the parts "as-is"-that is/was a one-off part. Kit cars on the other hand are "kits" or replicas to which you can call the company and purchase the parts need for repair.
Lesson II: There isn't a "mismatched front and rear" for there is nothing to which to base the car too. The front is a C6, but isn't. The rear bumper is a Fiero, but isn't. It has a V8Archie choptop, but doesn't look like the other 26 made. The brakes are Corvette, but brakets were specially made by D1S. The F360 mirrors are OEM, but aren't to the original specs and location for you can't go out and buy a set and mount them on.
O where to start Do u remember posting the day u got pulled over and said---- "The officer thought #011 was a Lotus when I first came down the hill. Hmm, I don't know why. He was somewhat puzzled about it being a custom kit-kar by DMV."
Looks like u just called it a "kit-kar". There realy is nothing KIT about building one.You have to do more fabricating than can be imagined,and yes that means more than you fabricate or "build" on any of your cars, I use the word build loosely in your case,and have u ever realy stoped and read-looked at your own postslook at me,look at me? And what company can I call for a part for my Replica??? Where as u can buy the Vette brakes on E-bay.Like most of the other cobbled together parts,your so proud of. And "let me seriously school you" when u have a wreck theres not a lot of cars from Lambos to Fieros that u can just go buy the part and bolt it on. Now u do have a problem with the shortcomings in your life,and to compensate it seems you have a quest to always strive for something you cant acheive.The need to reach out to other people and to beleive that u r the better person and all will strive to agree with you is a farce and a goal you can never achive. Although you might not want to admit it,it is OK not to be the center of attention. The comment made earlier about your dash and people not saying anything is true. But things like that has only reinforced the coated haze of your own self intrested world. The hate and dissent you have inside for any one who disagree with you is hard to let go. IT CAN BE REACHED THOUGH. Also when you end your posts with "hehehe" you appear to be as smart as a 9 year old child
3. Wiith all of us (including Curly) deleting our disrespectful comments.
Curly can do as he wishes, but I suggest that to all the kit car and replica owners out there, that we remove option 1 from the table by no longer specifically replying to Curly's constructive criticism, or at all for that matter. I believe everything that needed to be said has been said more than once:
That leaves only only two possible outcomes for this thread:
1. Archived and untouchable forever (which I believe would serve us kit car owners well), or
2. The willful deletion of the "constructive criticism" starting with the one who began it. Everyone walks away with their own opinion and the hatred stops.
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So anyone have plans to build anouther kit car? I still want to build a 288 GTO. I am also looking at the profile of a 350Z and the V12 Vantage. Once I finish the wife's Fiero.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
"It's easy to find some poor sap who thought they could enjoy the attention of a Ferrari while driving around a Fiero with some extra fiberglass. But this conversion was clearly done by someone with an eye for proportion and detail; at speed, you'd be hard-pressed to spot the fakery as long as the top's not up or the owner slows down enough to let the plastic wood inserts shine."
Just another reason togo with your own design for many of the public are fully aware of fakery.
Dude, let me seriously school you for you don't have your facts straight. If you can go out and buy the parts "as-is"-then it's a kit. If you happen to be in a accident and need parts-that's a kit. On the other hand if you can't go out and purchase the parts "as-is"-that my friend is a one-off. If you are in a accident and you can't replace the parts "as-is"-that is/was a one-off part. Kit cars on the other hand are "kits" or replicas to which you can call the company and purchase the parts need for repair. .
sorry I have stayed out of this thread for a while, madcurl I have always respected you for your build and think you have done a great job with your car but with what you are saying I disagree completely. If I take a fiberglass murci body and modify it to where it is a little different than the way it was bought you would not consider it a kit but a "one off"? reason I ask is because just about every aspect of the body on your car can be bought from Archie or Norm but since you have made small changes it is not longer a kit but a "one off".. I have owned couple " kit cars" and several stock body fieros, I think your car looks great but really no different than a " kit car". you took fiberglass panels made by a couple companies modified them to look somewhat different than they come and call it a "one off" call it what you want bash all the so called " kit cars" but at the end of the day there is no real difference in your " one off " and a " kit car" if it helps every one get along how about just go back to the old term of rebodies
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I also got the notice in the mail about KIT CAR, the writing has been on the wall for some time as a majority of the articles have been based on Cobra replicas. Don't get me wrong I love the Cobra kits, but I have an keen interest in the Fiero based kits, which have been lacking in coverage the last few years save for an occasional Diablo kit now and then. With the loss of KIT CAR where will someone like me turn for info on Fiero based kits? I know some here may think it blasphemous to cut up a Fiero, but I have owned 4 Fieros and loved and continue to love the car, but it was the magazines such as KIT CAR that opened my eyes to Fieros at a young age. Just seems like an end of an era. Is this the end of Fiero based replicas as well?
LET ME SAY FROM THE GET GO> I DIDN"T READ THE 8PAGES ad it was a pissing match on the last page....
MY take is this ALL CAR MAGS are going away.. the internets news right here right now.. makes most NEW tech or stories, old by the time the mag hits the newsstand or your mail box.. as the volume goes down. their cost goes up per copy.. with tablets and smart phones.. paper media is all but dead.. as far as the KIT CARS themselves.. the fiero based ones are going as the base car is getting harder to find.. cheap.. no one wants to buy a 5k car to rip it apart.. KIT cars are not dead.. FFR is proof they have a cobra, a daytona ,a 33 ford . THe company that sold street beast.. did no one any favors.. and lastly the commies that tell you what you can and can't do on your own land.. HOA are nazi's and way tomany new 'hoods have them in place.. kit cars dead.. na.. today is easier than EVER to build one.. want a 427 hp lsIII it's only a stop at your local g.m. dealer the economy killed allot of companies... and kit cars where no different.. It be nice if some of the older kits,when the economy get back on it's feet. and do like FFR and build the chassis so the donor only needs to be had for it's parts not the whole car.. the trend of the rat rod also.. somewhat made the car hobbie cheap to get into for allot of people.. not talking the pro build rat rods.. the guy that buys a junker and builds a quick and dirty build.. and drives it.. really wish that TREND and the pantina tread came 15 years earlier. as I'd have driven the wheels off my 70 chevelle instead of try'n to restore it.. and ending up selling it without it ever turning a wheel under power.. kit cars are not dead.. the economy just isn't there for them to thrive.. someone needs to make a kit of the holden iffe
I have no need to purchase a $600 engine covers to prove I'm apart of a group that can't except constructive criticism when the flaws are bought to the light.
Sorry Charlie. Your Canadian headship stops at the border. I live in the United States of America, not Canada and the last time I read the title of this thread, "End of Kit Cars?" not "Bloozberry Common Wealth." If your replicant skin is wearing too thin-all I can tell you is to "go pound snow" for your small band of replicants have already attacked the "Choptop Chronicles" gnashing your teeth. Therefore, the evidence supports that you are the person(s) with a serious fiberglass chip on your shoulders. 
While I'm briefly on the subject. Do you know that the original F40 outer body isn't smooth to the touch. The car body was left "as-is" to reduce weight. I learn that on from Top Gear.
Do u remember posting the day u got pulled over and said----.JPG)
