Dean just called me. Had some personal concerns to attend too and major issues with Verizon so the no internet and the old number is gone. New number is (AT&T) 770-893-8540 business hours only. He did mention everything is fine and he has been working on the cars. Should have photos by the end of the week if the Internet is installed by then.
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GADJet Member
Posts: 1466 From: Star City, AR, USA Registered: Sep 2010
Dean just emailed me. He had to get a new phone, he will be in touch with all of you ASAP.
Dr. W.
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GADJet Member
Posts: 1466 From: Star City, AR, USA Registered: Sep 2010
You didn't just ask that question? There is a thing called smart phone that lets you access the Internet, if not take your laptop, netbook or tablet to a coffee shop.
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How is he emailing people if he doesn't have internet? Weird
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joshua riedl Member
Posts: 1426 From: watertown wi USA Registered: Jan 2004
I don't get it, you are the one that said he had no internet and now you are saying he had internet the whole time? Smart phones can post videos right to youtube, how about some updates?
Yep I use my iPhone all the time even without a wireless router. I don't have a dog in this fight but I think you should be questioning B V he's the one acting suspicious like he knows what's up n not telling.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Yep I use my iPhone all the time even without a wireless router. I don't have a dog in this fight but I think you should be questioning B V he's the one acting suspicious like he knows what's up n not telling.
LOL I know exactly whats up. Question is, how the hell was it missed by the forum? He drove my 14k mile 1988GT home at night like it was on personal car for 2 weeks. Because "he didnt want shop dust to get on it". My lawyer about fell out of his chair at that one.
Dean has tons of MY parts at his shop that he "forgot" to bring with the car. You know, cause it is easy to forget that kind of stuff even after being told several times (including the day before) to bring ALL my parts with the car.
Dean RUINED my car.
The engine and turbo were full of metal shavings when I visited his shop in June. The couple with the 4cyl IMSA car where 20 feet away from my car during my heated conversation about that one....
I have found all kinds of problems and piss poor fabrication on my swap.
I have all the correspondence between Dean and I (well actually my lawyer does) and he has probably been served by now.
I'm not suspicious... I am PISSED!
I just hope no other customer goes thru what I am... but they are, they just cant say anything...... YET.
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Grantman Member
Posts: 1420 From: Brownton, Minnesota, USA Registered: Dec 2011
It's times like this I'm glad my fiero has such low expectations. It just sits there knowing it's getting no fancy body mods, no big engine, no fancy intakes or interiors. It just says thank you for taking it out for a spin every so often. Hope it works out for everyone.
LOL I know exactly whats up. Question is, how the hell was it missed by the forum? He drove my 14k mile 1988GT home at night like it was on personal car for 2 weeks. Because "he didnt want shop dust to get on it". My lawyer about fell out of his chair at that one.
Dean has tons of MY parts at his shop that he "forgot" to bring with the car. You know, cause it is easy to forget that kind of stuff even after being told several times (including the day before) to bring ALL my parts with the car.
Dean RUINED my car.
The engine and turbo were full of metal shavings when I visited his shop in June. The couple with the 4cyl IMSA car where 20 feet away from my car during my heated conversation about that one....
I have found all kinds of problems and piss poor fabrication on my swap.
I have all the correspondence between Dean and I (well actually my lawyer does) and he has probably been served by now.
I'm not suspicious... I am PISSED!
I just hope no other customer goes thru what I am... but they are, they just cant say anything...... YET.
Sorry to hear about that bro. I can't understand y this happens a lot on this forum. I guess they all start out with good intentions and doing quality work but something changes in these guys. I have been running my own hvac business since 1997, haven't had really any issues to date. Sometimes things go on that take more time or more money but if they want to run a quality business they have to make adjustments. Sometimes you have to take a loss to keep the peace and your good name.
I always go out of my way to make sure the jobs get done correctly first then worry about my money second. I think these guys do the opposite an that y the end up in this situation. Personal problems are just that personal and have no bearing on their business.
It's times like this I'm glad my fiero has such low expectations. It just sits there knowing it's getting no fancy body mods, no big engine, no fancy intakes or interiors. It just says thank you for taking it out for a spin every so often. Hope it works out for everyone.
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jb1 Member
Posts: 2146 From: Tullahoma, Tennessee Registered: May 2003
Personal problems are just that personal and have no bearing on their business.
Hope it all works out for all involved. Carter
Have to disagree with that one statement. As a former business owner for 15 years, personal problems will directly affect business... I am glad you have not had bad enough personal problems to affect your business, but Dean is the business and his problems are the business problems..( I know nothing about Dean nor his situation ). A divorce was my personal problem which lead to many other problems and eventually lead to the closing of my business... Hard to run a business when your personal problems cause you not to care anymore and just give up... That is what happened to me, I just did not care anymore.... so I walked in one day , made few calls finished up my scheduled cars and locked the door for good.. to this day I still have people call me wanting me to do work , not interested,,,, a hobby isn't a hobby anymore when it becomes your living...
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Sorry to hear about that bro. I can't understand y this happens a lot on this forum. I guess they all start out with good intentions and doing quality work but something changes in these guys.
Hey jb1 I can go along with some of what you said. " I finished up all my customers cars." Which means you didn't rip anybody off or make your divorce problems their problems.
1.- Reputation 2.- Make sure the shop is in a drivable distance to check up on work preformed and to pull car if necessary. 3.- Get in writing what work is going to be preformed 4.- Review the work with someone that know about bodywork and/or engine work before picking up car. I learned the hard way on this one. With misc ghost charges and once I got my car from archies had a friend that is an insurance adjuster review it.... long story short several thousand dollars later to fix it.
Looking forward to bringing my car down to Central FL this month.
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Dean just emailed me. He had to get a new phone, he will be in touch with all of you ASAP.
Dr. W.
Why hasn't he posted here for his customers? I remember hearing the laptop, phone and internet excuse while he had my car. Cant these people get any more creative with their excuses? I think his best one was: The powdercoater had my headers for a month and lost them. Dean, personally, went thru every box in the PC shop and found them in a box of corvette parts.
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johnyrottin Member
Posts: 5487 From: Northwest Florida Registered: Oct 2007
I can say after 1 year and 8 months I am a bit nervous. I really hope Dean comes through. I still have faith. Jan 31, 2013 is my deadline.
Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are a very patient man. There is no honest reason why anyone should have a persons car for over a year and a half.
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johnyrottin Member
Posts: 5487 From: Northwest Florida Registered: Oct 2007
While it was being worked on there was much progress made. I really liked the direction he was taking it in and I wasn't in very much of a hurry. "Correct, not fast!" is what I always expressed to him. Not meant to be a slam on Dean or you, but other cars jumped into line in front of mine. One of which was a close friend of mine who was making a military move to Germany. He got my intercooled supercharged S2 3800 to save time for both he and Dean. I had no problem with this. Dean has to keep the doors of his business open and daily work is the backbone to a healthy business. I guess I share some blame here as well for the length of time as such. I want to have this car done soon though. I gave a deadline of 31 Jan 2013 to Dean so hopefully it will complete in time. That date will be 2 full years plus a couple days. This way we have time to shake out any bugs and be ready for Dells, Daytona, and Fierorama in 2013. I hope to see your car there with all the issues sorted and the car in one fantastic color! You may not be fully happy with Dean's work but many of us really dig what he was doing with our car, design wise. Sorry you are running into so many issues with it. I had hoped for a much happier outcome. Keep us posted on your progress!
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Fiero Thomas Member
Posts: 4669 From: Round Lake Beach, IL Registered: Jul 2005
While it was being worked on there was much progress made. I really liked the direction he was taking it in and I wasn't in very much of a hurry. "Correct, not fast!" is what I always expressed to him. Not meant to be a slam on Dean or you, but other cars jumped into line in front of mine. One of which was a close friend of mine who was making a military move to Germany. He got my intercooled supercharged S2 3800 to save time for both he and Dean. I had no problem with this. Dean has to keep the doors of his business open and daily work is the backbone to a healthy business. I guess I share some blame here as well for the length of time as such. I want to have this car done soon though. I gave a deadline of 31 Jan 2013 to Dean so hopefully it will complete in time. That date will be 2 full years plus a couple days. This way we have time to shake out any bugs and be ready for Dells, Daytona, and Fierorama in 2013. I hope to see your car there with all the issues sorted and the car in one fantastic color! You may not be fully happy with Dean's work but many of us really dig what he was doing with our car, design wise. Sorry you are running into so many issues with it. I had hoped for a much happier outcome. Keep us posted on your progress!
Hopefully things will change soon. I was wondering how so many new projects were getting started when yours seemingly wasn't progressing. I really hope Dean gets whatever is going on worked out for everyone's sake. It sounds as if BV is pursuing his matter, and I'd hate to see another shop with potential go down.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Notice there isnt anything about Whodeanies on Dean's fb anymore.. I'm telling you guys... this is not going to end well................ you can keep giving me bullshit neg ratings but its not going to change what is happening. A user account is easily replaceable, YOUR money & property isnt.
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deezil Member
Posts: 779 From: St Louis Mo USA Registered: Mar 2010
Hi everyone, Remember that there is always two sides to every story. I just spoke to Dean this morning and I must say that his shop is really moving along. I am not worried at all cause I know Dean will come through and he explained to me what is happening now. I have visited his shop many times and projects are now moving along. As with any business there will be kinks along the way but he is really starting to finish up the projects. I have been very patient but I know that it will be worth the wait cause I have to say that Dean's work is still the very best cause I have visited his shop personally many times and have seen many other builders work and it does not compare! Once again I spoke with Dean and saw his work and trust me he IS working on finishing up his projects. Dean is still the best in my book.
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joshua riedl Member
Posts: 1426 From: watertown wi USA Registered: Jan 2004
Originally posted by deezil: Man this really sucks. I'm sorry all you guys with cars there have to go through this stuff.
Go through what stuff? I have heard only one person complain about Dean. They are very loud and constant complaints...but still a single person. Keep in mind that this is the only complaint we have EVER heard about Dean. Notice also that you haven't heard a single complaint from anyone that has a car in his shop right now...in fact, you have heard at least two of those people backing him up.
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Originally posted by BV MotorSports: I'm telling you guys...
Yes, you have told us...over and over and over to the point that we are tired of hearing it. Don't you think it is time to drop it and let the lawyers deal with your complaints?
Now...imagine how difficult it would be to run a business where the main demographic of customer is cheap ass bastards like us. No offense intended to those that have money and are willing to spend it...but seriously, look at this group as a whole and you will see what I mean. Yes, he is going through some growing pains with his business. Money was likely already tight with him, then he ran into a large customer that didn't pay the amount expected (that is a fact, BV...and for this thread the reason for that fact is irrelevant...if you want to argue it, take it back to your own thread). Personally, I think it is time to give the guy a break, let him recover, and see what he can create for us next.
I don't have a dog in this fight either, and I have tried to stay out of it because of that...but I can only hold my tongue for so long. If I could afford to pay someone else to work on my car, I would be willing to drop it off at Whodeanies tomorrow.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40924 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Yes, you have told us...over and over and over to the point that we are tired of hearing it. Don't you think it is time to drop it and let the lawyers deal with your complaints?
...if you want to argue it, take it back to your own thread.
My sentiments exactly.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Really? How do you know who has dealt with Dean and who hasn't? I have a cancelled check that says you don't know what you're talking about. (Gee, what a surprise.)
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Money was likely already tight with him, then he ran into a large customer that didn't pay the amount expected (that is a fact, BV...and for this thread the reason for that fact is irrelevant...if you want to argue it, take it back to your own thread).
You will just blindly believe anything he says, wont you? Just what kind of person do you guys think I am? Well if you dont know, Dean screwed over an disabled 11yr US Army COMBAT vet. And he damn well knew my situation and still ripped me off. So don't you dare state as a matter of FACT that I ripped of ANYBODY! My car went from 10K to 19K without warning. I found 5 THOUSAND dollars worth of erroneous charges on my bill. Deans only reply was "Oh sorry, I didn't add it all up". So hell no, I am not paying 50% or 9 THOUSAND DOLLARS more than our agreed price. Dean wanted to build a bad ass turbo car. Problem is, he had no idea what he was doing and screwed me over in the process. Sorry ace, I am not rolling over for ANYONE. I have posted factual and detailed evidence to support this. If you, or anyone else, chooses to ignore it, so be it. I'll be the first one to laugh and say I told you so when you make your own "I hate Dean thread".
You go thru my thread and read it carefully. You will see I quoted Dean often. I know when I am being lied to. I know when someone is blaming me for their benefit. That is why my thread is very detailed. I have had many people PM me all angry because Dean loved to use me as his #1 excuse why everyone's cars weren't getting done.
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GADJet Member
Posts: 1466 From: Star City, AR, USA Registered: Sep 2010
Originally posted by BV MotorSports: Problem is, he had no idea what he was doing and screwed me over in the process.
I'm calling bologna on this! And here is why.
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the new turbo pics. they do it no justice, it looks way better in person. it was a lot of fab work involved in this one to get it all to fit and work with no cutting.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
Really? How do you know who has dealt with Dean and who hasn't? I have a cancelled check that says you don't know what you're talking about. (Gee, what a surprise.)
Its obvious you lack the reading comprehension to understand I was posting in response to Cowpatoot.
Next, did we meet at Deans? Is it you or Clay that owns the 4cyl IMSA?
He has done right buy me.
