Upstanding member for a long time? What are you on? The guy shows up out of nowhere a couple years ago and it's already turned to sht. Hardly a longtime upstanding member of the fiero community. There are plenty of those guys out there but whodeanie is not one of them. I was suprised so many people were trusting him so quickly.
And I'm curious PK, why don't you show everyone all the good he has done for the forum, and the Tyler project. Not sure what your referring to there...
Originally posted by exoticse: Not that it was by any means on your radar, but did you buy chance see a V-8 Archie style dash and console lying around ?
I almost forgot i sent it back for Dean to tweek.
Tony,
Hope you can get your beloved dash back...
Bravo foxtrot out
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Originally posted by exoticse: Thanks. Dean is doing an amazing job.
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Originally posted by exoticse: Thanks buddy ! Dean and his guys have really, really been busting their butts on my car and a couple of others for the show.
Yours is going to be awesome too, just hang in there ! Dean and crew won't let you down.
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Originally posted by exoticse: Yeah i have seen too.
His shop is full, but a few projects are winding down so it is all good. Dean is a great guy, so i am not sweating it.
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Originally posted by exoticse: Back on all fours ! ignore the wheels, if you can and admire dean's handiwork ! Man has got some skills !
I have just finished reading the last fifteen pages of this post and all the talk about having or not having Dog, Horse or a Pig in this race. Look at it like this. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. You can probably bet the cars that you don't have. That it is a Damn Duck
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oldbikeracer Member
Posts: 345 From: Sylvester, Georgia USA Registered: Jun 2012
I know this is way off subject. The White Horse car has Fiero logo rear vents on it. Where are they available from? Now I will butt back out. Thanks for your time.
I know this is way off subject. The White Horse car has Fiero logo rear vents on it. Where are they available from? Now I will butt back out. Thanks for your time.
Upstanding member for a long time? What are you on? The guy shows up out of nowhere a couple years ago and it's already turned to sht. Hardly a longtime upstanding member of the fiero community. There are plenty of those guys out there but whodeanie is not one of them. I was suprised so many people were trusting him so quickly.
And I'm curious PK, why don't you show everyone all the good he has done for the forum, and the Tyler project. Not sure what your referring to there...
what I mean is he has created a very nice array of custom parts for the fiero that were more or less unobtainable and dident ask stupidly High prices on them. The tyler project was the tylers toy car out in frazee MN. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure he donated a few parts towards it. I'm not defending him here.. what happened is wrong and I hope He finds some way to fix it and make things right some day
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JohnWPB Member
Posts: 5218 From: West Palm Beach, Florida Registered: May 2009
@PontiacKid: Dean did not have anything to do with the Tyler project. While I was at Dean's shop last January for a few days, he mentioned he had not heard of it till after the fact. He mentioned that he wished he had known about it, as would have liked to have done something.
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....the Tyler project. Not sure what your referring to there...
Wow, noting personal, but you must have been hiding under a rock for the past 3 years.....
Lastly, a video that sums most of it up, This news video won an Emmy, as well as another Emmy for the follow up story. Both of which were given to the Shipman's by the reporter.
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turbodad Member
Posts: 67 From: san antonio texas usa Registered: Feb 2007
There are about two pages of people begging for pics of the parts mounted on a non-chopped fiero which most of us own. We immediately got told to leave the master alone by his cheerleaders because he was to busy to mock up a measly 1200 dollars in part and he has thirty cars to work on!!!! Oh really??? By my estimation he wasn't working on anything unless he got personal visits from the owners, exoticse, BV, or they were high profile and close enough to easily visit yellowstone. There was even a post chastising everyone for not buying his parts!!!! He finally posted pictures three months later and they looked good!! However the initial communication was so lacking I was turned off and anticipated delays and excuses. I kept my money in my pocket. I still wonder what he was busy doing for the last eighteen months, obviously not working on cars. The same cars are in the same condition unless someone hammers him on the forum and now he has quit the community. Some of you cheerleaders need to look in the mirror and ask what you said to encourage people to trust a guy you obviously did not know as well as you thought you did.
My car on 22 April 2011 the day I dropped it off at Whodeanie’s
Notice my scratch free tail light’s… I have close ups that I will post later when I show you the ones Dean tried to pass off as mine. Even said they were in a box mark BlackThunderGT… another lie!!! People’s parts are all over the place or missing! There are no GOOD part’s left.
We were there for 5 hours going thru the broken and trash parts to find the best pieces (I will be posting these pictures later). I asked Dean why my interior was not put all together in one box and he said it was but when the shop moved the Georgia Fiero Club members just thru the parts all together and broke things. We have an old saying in the Army “no good deeds will go unpunished”. If any one out there still thinks Dean is a man of character and great car builder they are a FOOL.
I was conned by the best liar I have ever met and so was a lot of you. Others are sending me information on the problems they had with Dean and his outlandish excuses and lies. One of his former employee’s has described more acts of theft/fraud by Dean. The stealing parts off of one car to get another out the door; putting used parts in place of new parts the customer was charged for, so Dean could get paid. I say Dean could get paid because he still owes this employee $11,000 dollars. But if you believe Dean these former employees all wanted to get paid and not do any work… once again more lies!!! I for one can’t wait to talk to his former fiberglass guy and get the real story about the molds that Dean says was stolen by this guy. I’m guessing at this point probably wanted to get paid for the work he did.
Picked my car up on 13 December 2012… this is it!!! 18 months… $8400.00 dollars cash and a few thousand dollars of my missing parts later.
If anyone can point out the $8400.00 hundred dollars worth of work in this picture I will shut up now!!!
What the hell happened to the back of my car? It looks as if it has been wrecked… it’s been reported by a former employee that Dean would drive customer cars home after they arrived. If it was getting an engine swap he would drive it really hard to try and blow it up… after seeing the damage to the rear of my car I believe it.
Another picture of the damage to my rear panels… keep in mind I was to receive all my original parts back in the condition they arrived.
This is obviously not my hood… it’s the best one that was left… now there is nothing but absolutely trash ones left. Wait to you see the close up of this piece of **** .
When I asked Dean where are my cross drilled/slotted front rotors were his answer did not make sense. He said they were removed to put on my 12 inch Corvette rotors. The problem is my 12 inch Corvette rotors are still in the boxes I dropped them off in. They have yet to be drilled to the 5X100 pattern… now I’m not an expert car builder but wouldn’t you first get the new parts ready to put on before removing the old ones? Anyway he could not find my front rotors in the shop… can you say my car was a parts car for 18 months. Another interesting note is when he gave me the box of brake brackets one was missing… it took him about 30 minutes to find it. He said he took it to make copies at his parts cutter. Now we all know people copy others hard work in the Fiero world… but in my opinion this is wrong and another example of the character of this guy!!!
This is the short list of stolen parts that were on my car or supplied by me, I will be adding to this list as I go thru the parts:
My 3800 SC My 3800 SC wiring harness and computer My complete 2.8 with 123391 miles My automatic transmission My axles My wiring harness My battery My Angel hood scoop My TLG led marker lights (note Dean may have given me stolen property as John believes the ones Dean gave me are his) If so another charge of theft is coming his way! My front cross drilled and slotted rotors and the bolts that mount the calipers My scratch free 88GT tail lights My radio antenna My 88GT body panels and hood My 88GT interior in excellent shape
Stay tuned for more… more of his lies… more of the drama… more people still defending this thief!!!
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TheRealShadowX Member
Posts: 1456 From: Milwaukee Wisconsin USA Registered: Mar 2010
When I post the pictures of what Dean gave to me if you see any parts that you believe to be yours please contact Dean immediately and demand he produce your part. If he can’t produce the part please call the Canton, Georgia police department (770-720-4883) and report the theft.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
When I post the pictures of what Dean gave to me if you see any parts that you believe to be yours please contact Dean immediately and demand he produce your part. If he can’t produce the part please call the Canton, Georgia police department (770-720-4883) and report the theft.
On the phone with the Canton PD right now.
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Pete Matos Member
Posts: 2291 From: Port St. Lucie, Florida Registered: Jan 2010
Jeez man, this is just unreal. That car is THRASHED!! Holy smokes I can now see why it took so long for you to compose yourself and calm down enough to be able to post this information. I know everyone said it was bad but good lord that is just crazy. If you STILL have a car there and you are not actually driving with a truck and trailer right now to go get it you are out of your mind!! I am amazed that you could actually speak to him in person without wanting to tearing his head off. So you are still missing the engine, both engines? An angel hood vent, and all that other stuff too??!! Man-O-man I am speechless. It is gonna take a crew of investigators to weed thru this mess that has been created here. It amazes me how people can get away with this kind of thing for so long. I am so sorry that this has happened to you. It LOOKS like the car was going to get chopped no? Did you have an Archie kit for the chop? Wow.....wow......unfreakin'believable.... Peace
Pete
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
I am sorry man. In the future, if Fieros have not completely let you down, send me your GT taillights. If they are not cracked, I can do some pretty good work on them for ya. I don't want anything for it, just want to try and lighten your burden a bit Sir.
I love my GT, and I know that most of us here have true passion for this hobby. I feel bad for all.
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
I just spoke with Dean a few days ago and everything is moving along. He is still hard at work with all his many projects and I know everyone is anxious but just be patient and you will be surprised with the final product. Dean is still #1.
Yeah we sure are surprised. Still number one?????
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40924 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Holy shite! - I know what I'd wanna do to him - but that wouldn't solve anything. Definitely a legal matter that I hope puts him behind bars for a while and restitution to those screwed.
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I am sorry man. In the future, if Fieros have not completely let you down, send me your GT taillights. If they are not cracked, I can do some pretty good work on them for ya. I don't want anything for it, just want to try and lighten your burden a bit Sir.
I love my GT, and I know that most of us here have true passion for this hobby. I feel bad for all.
Thanks! You have a PM!
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BV MotorSports Member
Posts: 4821 From: Oak Hill, WV Registered: May 2001
This is the short list of stolen parts that were on my car or supplied by me, I will be adding to this list as I go thru the parts:
My 3800 SC My 3800 SC wiring harness and computer My complete 2.8 with 123391 miles My automatic transmission My axles My wiring harness My battery My Angel hood scoop My TLG led marker lights (note Dean may have given me stolen property as John believes the ones Dean gave me are his) If so another charge of theft is coming his way! My front cross drilled and slotted rotors and the bolts that mount the calipers My scratch free 88GT tail lights My radio antenna My 88GT body panels and hood My 88GT interior in
I was one of the defenders, I couldn't have been more wrong. Indefensible, inexcusable. This is wrong on so many levels its sickening.
@PontiacKid: Dean did not have anything to do with the Tyler project. While I was at Dean's shop last January for a few days, he mentioned he had not heard of it till after the fact. He mentioned that he wished he had known about it, as would have liked to have done something.
Wow, noting personal, but you must have been hiding under a rock for the past 3 years.....
Lastly, a video that sums most of it up, This news video won an Emmy, as well as another Emmy for the follow up story. Both of which were given to the Shipman's by the reporter.
Oh wow. I was not sure what he was referring to when he said whodeanie had contributed to the tyler project, not questioning what the tyler project was. I was at the first tyler memorial car show, i know all about it. One truly would have to be living under a rock to not have known about it by now...
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40924 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Originally posted by infinitewill: I was one of the defenders, I couldn't have been more wrong. Indefensible, inexcusable. This is wrong on so many levels its sickening.
As was I. Sadly (for everyone involved) I stand corrected. My apologies.
As was I. Sadly (for everyone involved) I stand corrected. My apologies.
Pennocks fiero forum...
Do good work that looks bad, do it for years reliably ------ Get a near unlimited amount of hate, trolling, discrediting, sh!t talking, and every type of personal attack you do do over the internet, in every type of situation.
Do bad work that looks good, for a short period of time ------ Get completely random people to stick up for you in times of obvious shady deals, defend him when people lash out, etc.
The way of loyde and dean were surprisingly the same... Really find it hard to believe that I still have more haters than whodeen has.
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FieroMaster88 Member
Posts: 7680 From: Mattawan, MI Registered: Nov 2000
Ok folks, I just got a call from Deputy Steel. Their dispatch phone is ringing off the hook over the Whodeanies scam. Dep Steel asked that I post here for those that wish to file a report to PM me your name and phone #. I will then forward it to Dep Steel. Dep Steel will then add your name(s) to the original report (mine) and submit it to the investigators. Paul & David, he is calling you guys to tell you the same thing right now. Somehow, I have become the POC on this (point of contact). If you do not wish to give me your name # phone number, you can call dispatch and refer to case # 12-120970 and give them your contact info for the investigators.
Please get your information in order. Dates, $$$ amounts, evidence etc. Everything and anything you can think of!
Steven
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Pennocks fiero forum... Really find it hard to believe that I still have more haters than whodeen has.
Scott,
I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm being genuine with what I'm going to say. Please take it as intended. Most people have issue with you because of your attitude not your work. I said it before, if you were less confrontational and insulting in the way you posted, most people here wouldn't have a bad word to say to you. That, and if you did ever focus on appearance as well as function, people would be beating your door down.
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Pete Matos Member
Posts: 2291 From: Port St. Lucie, Florida Registered: Jan 2010
I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm being genuine with what I'm going to say. Please take it as intended. Most people have issue with you because of your attitude not your work. I said it before, if you were less confrontational and insulting in the way you posted, most people here wouldn't have a bad word to say to you. That, and if you did ever focus on appearance as well as function, people would be beating your door down.
Agreed.....I have said the same thing before several times. Besides thread is not about Dark it is about whodeannie and the ensuing melee....peace
Pete
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rcp builders Member
Posts: 736 From: north port, Fl. Registered: Apr 2007
I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm being genuine with what I'm going to say. Please take it as intended. Most people have issue with you because of your attitude not your work. I said it before, if you were less confrontational and insulting in the way you posted, most people here wouldn't have a bad word to say to you. That, and if you did ever focus on appearance as well as function, people would be beating your door down.
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Agreed.....I have said the same thing before several times. Besides thread is not about Dark it is about whodeannie and the ensuing melee....peace
Pete
I learned a long time ago when I was a contractor, I had a mason named Kieth show up on my job site on his Harley with his stripper girlfriend on the back (yes that was her profession) arrogant as hell and rough as a jagged rock. He convinced me to give him this $50,000 fireplace to do. When Monday came he and his crew rolled up (looked like the movie Money Pit when the rag tag bunch showed up to "work"). They wre the most reliable, hard working, stand up guys I ever had the honor to meet and work with!!!!!!!!!!!
Dark, for what it's worth your arrogant ass is alright by me!
Paul, I`m so sorry for you and the other guys who have lost parts and money to this fiasco. I know how nice your car was after seeing it at shows and I know you took great pride in the way it looked stock. And I know you thought you were taking it to the best to further enhance it. Hopefully, you can somehow get your car to the machine you had envisioned without putting out too much more money. Good luck, Mike
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yellowstone Member
Posts: 9299 From: Düsseldorf/Germany Registered: Jun 2003
The only other Lambo on the property was the one outside parked with the other junk cars. That car was in such bad shape I didn’t even take a picture of it.
The only other Lambo on the property was the one outside parked with the other junk cars. That car was in such bad shape I didn’t even take a picture of it.
18 months… $8400.00 dollars cash and a few thousand dollars of my missing parts later.
