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Real 85 fiero GT? by banderson
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Report this Post04-09-2012 09:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bandersonSend a Private Message to bandersonDirect Link to This Post
Hello all, I bought an 85 fiero gt that I am restoring. I love the car and would not trade it for the world. I am a mechanic and love cars, but the fiero has always been my all time favorite. Now that I have some money to restore one, I am doing just that. My question is that my fiero has no cruise control. It has all of the GT features and the vin reads that it is a GT, but as far as I know all GM cars that were labeled gt came with cruise control. The person I bought it from knows a lot about cars and I do not know if he switched the vins and some parts out. Or, if maybe the steering column was switched out at some point and the gt steering wheel put back on. Not having cruise does not bother me. I have not had cruise in any of my cars except my 04 monte carlo, and I never use it. I was just wondering if all GT's came with cruise control. Thanks, Brad

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Report this Post04-09-2012 09:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for dobeySend a Private Message to dobeyDirect Link to This Post
Are the components in the engine bay for the cruise? (secondary throttle cable, vacuum canister, cruise vacuum solenoid, etc…) The turn signal switches used in all the GM cars of the era tend to go bad after 20 years, so maybe it was just replaced with a non-cruise switch at some point?
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Report this Post04-09-2012 09:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
I believe cruise was an extra cost option, and not standard on the 85 GT. I don't have my Fiero resources handy at the moment and cannot be positive, but I am fairly sure. It sounds like you have a GT, minus cruise. Congrats on picking it up!
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Report this Post04-09-2012 09:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Not all GT''s necessarily came with cruise, but you can check the RPO code label on the front wheel arch inside the front compartment on the driver's side. You are looking for the three letter code K34. You can double check that the VIN hasn't been changed by comparing the one on the label to the one at the base of the windshield too.
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Report this Post04-09-2012 10:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bandersonSend a Private Message to bandersonDirect Link to This Post
I will have to look when I pick it up this week. I picked it up for only 800 bucks and any parts I need are free forever. The person I am buying it from just wants to see it run again and he collects fieros, so he told me all parts I need are free. Awesome deal. The only reason I am concerned is because my dad use to be a mechanic, and in 84 and 85 he had to replace a ton of fiero engines because of the fire deal, so he has hated them ever since. I am slowly convincing him to my side tho. All of the vins match up that I could find anyway. I do not have keys to get into the engine bay yet so I cannot be sure there. He is letting me get it running before I pay him tho. Nice guy, so I do not think that he would do anything like that and not tell me. Anyway I will look sometime this week.
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Report this Post04-09-2012 11:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TinkrrSend a Private Message to TinkrrDirect Link to This Post
I have the original showroom brochure for my 1985 GT.
It indicates that Electronic Cruise Control is (A) available as an extra cost option

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Report this Post04-09-2012 11:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bandersonSend a Private Message to bandersonDirect Link to This Post
Thank you very much. That helps out a lot
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Report this Post04-09-2012 11:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by banderson:
but as far as I know all GM cars that were labeled gt came with cruise control.


That is incorrect.

You are going to find with the Fiero GT models that there are only a few things that came "stock". This would primarily be the upgraded visuals (ground effects), V6 drivetrain, and upgraded suspension. Additionally as you own an '85 GT, you would still have the "hi-tech" 14" wheels, as the diamond spoke 15" "GT" wheels did not come along until 1986. It's also not hard to find a GT that is incredibly "stripped" down in options, such as not having power anything or lacking common items like rear defrost or a sunroof.

Another thing is that many of the options on the GT could be "deleted". For instance, there are a good handful of GT models rolling around without the rear spoiler OEM, even though by ordering the GT the spoiler was added onto the build sheet. There are also some instances of GTs rolling around with luggage racks (an even rarer oddity) OEM due to a "spoiler delete" override code.
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Report this Post04-09-2012 01:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for c-lSend a Private Message to c-lDirect Link to This Post


I still have my 85GT that I purchase new from the local Pontiac dealership in 85. It does NOT have the cruise control option.


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Report this Post04-09-2012 02:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post

GT dident always mean fully loaded.. I've even seen an 85 GT without AC..
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Report this Post04-09-2012 02:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

I've even seen an 85 GT without AC..


Neither my '86 nor my '88 have AC... of course here in Canada you'd only ever need it for three weeks in the middle of the summer.

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Report this Post04-09-2012 05:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Direct Link to This Post
Yes it was an option on all 1985 Fiero's. I remember this when I bought my 85 New.
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Report this Post04-10-2012 06:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RollinRedGTSend a Private Message to RollinRedGTDirect Link to This Post
85 GT here, owned for 13yrs!
No Air, no power locks, no cruise control, and trunk rack.
Was actually suprised when purchased there was no air, and no cruise at the time being a GT



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Report this Post04-10-2012 07:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for andrewwSend a Private Message to andrewwDirect Link to This Post
I'm pretty sure the GT package was very minimal beyond getting the V6 and Aero package. Alloy rims were standard, but I don't think there was anything else included (possibly a leather wrapped steering wheel). Everything else was an option, as it was on every other fiero.
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Originally posted by RollinRedGT:

85 GT here, owned for 13yrs!
No Air, no power locks, no cruise control, and trunk rack.
Was actually suprised when purchased there was no air, and no cruise at the time being a GT



Interesting I've never seen one with a rack instead of a wing either.

I do know my 88 Formula has crank windows and no trunk release, key only..

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Report this Post04-10-2012 05:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hyperv6Send a Private Message to hyperv6Direct Link to This Post
The WS6 suspension was standard on all GT's as was the leather wheel
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Originally posted by hyperv6:

The WS6 suspension was standard on all GT's as was the leather wheel


That I believe was 86-88 the 85 GT only got the aero package the V6 and alloy wheels. Of course you could get them however yu wanted almost everything was an option.

My 86 SE (same as 85 GT) has air tilt cruise performance sound Power window, lock, mirror, trunk, rear defrost but is a 4 speed and doesnot to my knowledge have WS6 suspension nor a rear sway bar.... Yet.

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Report this Post04-11-2012 11:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TinkrrSend a Private Message to TinkrrDirect Link to This Post
My 1985 Fiero GT came with quick ratio rack and pinion steering and WS6 suspension a standard part of the GT package


You will note that the rear wing spoiler was an extra cost option

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Originally posted by Tinkrr:

My 1985 Fiero GT came with quick ratio rack and pinion steering and WS6 suspension a standard part of the GT package


You will note that the rear wing spoiler was an extra cost option



The quick ratio rack is part of the WS6. My 2M6 SE has the same rack as I also have the WS6 on mine but it was an option on it.

The wing was an option in 85 as the dealer swaped my rear luggage rack deck with a GT deck with a wing. They charged me only the price difference between the options at was something like $90. So I picked up my 2M6 SE from the dealer with a factory installed wing back in 85 and some sucker bought a GT with a luggage rack with no wing. I know they saved me a lot of money doing the swap myself back then. There were no used ones in 1985 cheap.

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Because we see so many GT's with spoilers, it's become popular belief that it's part of the GT package. The spoiler wasn't standard equipment or part of any package, other than the Indy and the Formula trim packages. On all others, it was an option.
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Report this Post04-12-2012 10:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bandersonSend a Private Message to bandersonDirect Link to This Post
Thanks- You have all been a lot of help
- Brad

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Report this Post04-12-2012 10:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadDirect Link to This Post
The WS6 package was standard on the 85 GT, as was the Aero nose, side skirts and rear fascia, Tuned Dual Twin Port exhaust, and Medium Gray Metallic ground effects.
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Report this Post04-12-2012 10:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TinkrrSend a Private Message to TinkrrDirect Link to This Post
If you read the part of the 1985 GT Brochure you have in your own post you will find that the quick ratio rack and pinion is not listed as part of the WS6 option, rather it is part of the GT package
 
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Originally posted by hyperv6:


The quick ratio rack is part of the WS6. My 2M6 SE has the same rack as I also have the WS6 on mine but it was an option on it.

The wing was an option in 85 as the dealer swaped my rear luggage rack deck with a GT deck with a wing. They charged me only the price difference between the options at was something like $90. So I picked up my 2M6 SE from the dealer with a factory installed wing back in 85 and some sucker bought a GT with a luggage rack with no wing. I know they saved me a lot of money doing the swap myself back then. There were no used ones in 1985 cheap.

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