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Ever see a Car that runs on air ???? by CoolBlue87GT
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This car runs on air.

The Path is : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2281011.stm

By Jon Sopel
BBC Europe correspondent

Engineers in France believe they have come up with the answer that environmentalists and economists have spent years searching for: a commercially viable, non-polluting car, which costs next to nothing to run.
The latest prototype will be unveiled on Thursday at the Paris motor show.

Like everything else about this vehicle, it all sounds impossible.

When we went to the company's factory-cum-design shop just outside Nice in the South of France a black blanket was put between us and it.

But we were told it has a steering wheel in the middle, with passenger seats either side, a boot the size of the biggest estate, but in overall size terms is no bigger than a Smart car.


A full tank of air will cost about 1.50 euro

The air is compressed at pressure about 150 times the rate you would put into car tyres or your bicycle.

An earlier version of the car that we drove was noisy and slow, and a tiny bit cumbersome.

But then this vehicle will not be competing with a Ferrari or Rolls Royce. And the manufacturers are not seeking to develop a Formula One version of the vehicle.

What the company is aiming at is the urban motorist: delivery vehicles, taxi drivers, and people who just use their car to nip out to the shops.

The latest vehicle is said to have come on leaps and bounds from the early model we drove.

It is said to be much quieter, a top speed of 110 km/h (65 mph), and a range of around 200 km before you need to fill the tanks up with air.

Filling up

The car comes fitted with its own compressor so you can fill up at home. But that would take four hours.

The company has developed the technology to refill the vehicle in three minutes, although there are no service station forecourts with the compressed air machines to do that yet.

And the cost? Cyril Negre, the head of Research and Development at MDI cars, reckons a full tank of air would be about 1.50 euros.

But the difference between success and failure in the motor industry is investment and faith. On paper the car works; around the industrial estate that we took the early prototype, it works.

Now the question is: how to make the leap from concept to the market? Will the dream become something more than so much compressed air?

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french. hmmmm.
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The tanks are pressured at 5250 psi

and the inventor reckons a full tank of air would be about 1.50 euros?!

the tanks must be the size of a hot water heater!

If you take diving tanks to get them refilled, is that what they charge you? $1.50 for, what? 20 of them?

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I guess it works like one of those "air hogs" toys.
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Another view form another site:

The car that runs on air

The lightweight car car be air-filled in just three minutes

By Carolyn Dempster in Johannesburg
Urban transport could soon be revolutionised with the launching this week in South Africa of a prototype new car which designers say runs on air.

It is being predicted that the e.Volution will be able to travel up to 200km (120 miles) for only 30 US cents.

With petrol and diesel prices going up, and the price of oil subject to fluctuations, motorists might be only too happy to "go green"

The car, which resembles a small minibus, is being promoted by the slogan "Simple, Economic and Clean", but details of how the vehicle will work remain sketchy.

The e.Volution prototype will be unveiled at Auto Africa Expo 2000 in Johannesburg this week and is being touted as the first viable alternative to cars that run on conventional fuels.

Researchers have been working for many years to produce 'eco-friendly' cars, but so far these attempts have not been successful. Some models already in development use hydrogen as a fuel.

It is expected to sell in South Africa for about R74,000 ($10,000) which is on a par with a medium-sized saloon car.

Specifications

Helen Brown who heads "Zero Pollution Motors", the company which has the rights to manufacture the car locally, says it will be ideal for urban transport.

First models to be on the road this year

The compression engine technology was pioneered by a former French formula one engineer Guy Negre, who has spent years searching for an alternative to the traditional oil-fuelled engine.

The piston engine is powered by the release of compressed air which is stored in tanks, very similar to scuba diving tanks, attached to the underside of the car.

The body of the vehicle weighs only 700kg, and the engine itself is a mere 35kg.

This means that the vehicle can theoretically be driven for up to 10 hours in an urban environment at an average speed of 80km/h.


Filling up

The designers of e.Volution say it will be possible to merely plug the vehicle into any electrical power source to fill it up. That could take up to four hours.

It could be a serious challenge to the current motor vehicle market

But the manufacturers envisage that fleet owners could install their own air stations, where a fill up could take as little as three minutes.

If the e.Volution lives up to all the hype, it could offer a serious challenge to the current motor vehicle market.

There are currently two factories in France, with the first models expected on the streets later this year.

There are five factories planned for Mexico and Spain, with three in Australia.

Anti-globalisation idea

But South Africa will be the second country after France to open a factory and begin production.

Helen Brown says her company aims to set up a production line in the province of Gauteng by next year, with the first cars off the production line and onto the salesroom floor by early 2002.

" It's really an anti-globalisation production idea" she said.

"The aim of the project is to cut costs and create jobs locally, serving the consumer market directly."

With petrol and diesel prices going up, and the price of oil subject to fluctuations, the Middle East crisis and occasional shortfalls, motorists might be only too happy to "go green" if it means a lifetime saving on fuel costs.

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WHAT KIND OF DESIGN SHOP ????
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manufacturers envisage ... where a fill up could take as little as three minutes.

I hope someone gets a video when they try to pump 100 gallons of air into a tank at 5000+ PSI in 3 minutes

that much compression in 180 seconds would melt the valve right off the tank!

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There are a couple of people at work that could quickly show you how to do it Ken. They spout hot air at an unbelievable rate.
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Ahhhh, what would happen if a full tank blew in a wreck?

I'm thinking it wouldn't be good!

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Report this Post11-26-2003 10:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ken WittliefSend a Private Message to Ken WittliefDirect Link to This Post
at least the thing doesnt need seatbelts

what would be the point?

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so would that be a High Compression engine?

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How long before some bozo would wack the valve off with an axe

to see how fast the car will accelerate?

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Originally posted by ManiMack:

Ahhhh, what would happen if a full tank blew in a wreck?

I'm thinking it wouldn't be good!

ever blow up a balloon and let it go? i dont think thats quite what would happen, but still a funny thought.

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heh.. even a 3500lb breathing air cylinder will go through a concrete wall if you break the valve.
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So I wonder, what does the car sound like while driving ?

A big long fart ? lol

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Well, it's nice to see the french putting all their hot air to good use.
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My buddy told me an interesting story once.

He was displaying his thesis project for his Industrial Design course at the Auto show in Toronto. He had built a protoype of what was basically a street legal "quad". Anyhow he met alot of interesting people because of it including a guy who claimed to have a patent for something like this. He said he had mounted an air starter for a transport truck into a british car and had it set up to get some semi decent #'s for speed/range. He applied for patents and was in the process of doing more research when threats on his life were made and if I recall correctly my buddy said he said someone even tried to kill him! He basically abandoned it at that point.
The story is obviously a few generations old but its interesting that something so simple does have the potential anyway to make a whole lot of auto manufacturers somewhat nervous.
I think its a pretty good idea....
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Aw crap outta gas... someone grab me the bike pump.
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was with all the environmentally friendly cars being so damn ugly?

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Originally posted by GTFiero1:

was with all the environmentally friendly cars being so damn ugly?

LOL. I know what you mean. Even the electric prototype cars are ugly.

BTW, the fart comment was pretty funny. It would fit in perfectly with all the imports

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